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[raab]

Originally Posted by Luxor

Raab

You need ALOT of educating on politics.

And hopefully you get it before the Fed elections.

I thought you were looking for another job ?????

How you gonna find a good one without foreign investment???

Do you understand how global economy works????

Well do ya???

Start hanging out with smart people and it will rub off on ya.
Try it please

I understand completely how a global economy works, what I don't understand with the FIPA deal is how it benefits Canadians at all? With gas jumping the way it did, I'd prefer if we kept our oil and started exporting gasoline, diesel and other refined petroleum products.

[Luxor]

Originally Posted by raab

I understand completely how a global economy works, what I don't understand with the FIPA deal is how it benefits Canadians at all? With gas jumping the way it did, I'd prefer if we kept our oil and started exporting gasoline, diesel and other refined petroleum products.

Hahaha

You just told us that you completely understood how global economy works !!!!!!



Sorry but I can no longer partake in your discussions as I can no longer take you seriously.

I hope the good lord helps the lefties to see the errors.

[raab]

Originally Posted by hal53

What you consider fair pay, and what the union does will be very different once you start showing a decent profit...get it?

I don't believe that. If I have a Journeyman Electrician working for me I'd pay him the same as a Union Electrician. Then theres no issues. If I can no longer pay him a union wage I would offer other incentives. Unions only come in when employers treat there staff like crap. Most places will chase them out if the employer has been good to them.

[Luxor]

Originally Posted by raab

I don't believe that. If I have a Journeyman Electrician working for me I'd pay him the same as a Union Electrician. Then theres no issues. If I can no longer pay him a union wage I would offer other incentives. Unions only come in when employers treat there staff like crap. Most places will chase them out if the employer has been good to them.

Uhmmmmm

stunning just stunning

I cannot follow your logic with any sense of reality any longer.

Good luck as a new businessman

And good luck to your employees

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by raab

I don't believe that. If I have a Journeyman Electrician working for me I'd pay him the same as a Union Electrician. Then theres no issues. If I can no longer pay him a union wage I would offer other incentives. Unions only come in when employers treat there staff like crap. Most places will chase them out if the employer has been good to them.

This is true^

[hal53]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

This is true^

in some cases it is...

[Luxor]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

This is true^

Hahaha
Of course its true....partly
Alberta is Union strong!!!!!!
And non union has to keep up with the Union or you gonna go broke man !!!

This ^^^^^ is whats true !!!!!!

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by hal53

in some cases it is...

Yes. There is usually discontent to initiate a union.

[Luxor]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

Yes. There is usually discontent to initiate a union.

The discontent comes from contractor's being PO'd at the crappy non union work production!!!!!

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by Luxor

The discontent comes from contractor's being PO'd at the crappy non union work production

So your saying union employees perform better than non unionized employees? Your backwards.

[hal53]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

Yes. There is usually discontent to initiate a union.

from personal experience, that depends on a few things....

[Luxor]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

So your saying union employees perform better than non unionized employees? Your backwards.

Not in my Union experiences all over AB BC and Sask Manitoba and NFLD
And especially in Ft Mac.
And I bin doing my trade for over 25yrs.

Its YOU who are backwards son.

You cannot tell me anything about my business.....and its more than obvious you dont know

[Redfrog]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

Yes. There is usually discontent to initiate a union.

Unless there is an NDP gov't. It then restricts all gov't work to unions only, whether employees want one or not. Been there. anyone who tells you different has not got a clue.

Look at this $15 minimum wage. Who is in favor of it? Those who will get it, those who are already making more than minimum, those who are not employers who's bottom line is directly affected and those who don't have to pay for it. What employee is not going to look for $5 more an hour? Again who is in favor of a $5 raise. Anyone who doesn't have to pay it.

When will people learn there is no free lunch and that when the government 'gives' you something, it was already yours or they took it from someone else. Government does not generate wealth.........except for politicians.

[bobalong]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

So your saying union employees perform better than non unionized employees? Your backwards.

Quantity might be the same, but 9 out 10 the quality of work for the union member will be much much better........its called training........not grabbing the cheapest labour regardless of skills just so you can make more money. That is the contractor way........all about money and if they happen to actually have some quality of work and don't have to come back 2 or 3 times to fix it ...........bonus.

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by Luxor

Not in my Union experiences all over AB BC and Sask Manitoba and NFLD
And especially in Ft Mac.
And I bin doing my trade for over 25yrs.

Its YOU who are backwards son.

You cannot tell me anything about my business.....and its more than obvious you dont know

I too have been working in western Canada for 25 years in both unionized and non,.... My experience has been different boy.

[dgreen]

Originally Posted by Luxor

Ya

The Cons shipped out jobs and shipped in immigrants

And Harper made me gain weight too

Lord this thread is really telling

There's actually a lot more truth to this than you realize. The Temporary Foreign Worker Program (started in the 1970s) was significantly expanded in 2006 under Harper's leadership and between 2006-2014 over 500,000 temporary foreign workers were brought into Canada. It's only once Canadians realized their jobs were being replaced and everyone including the conservative base protested that they put in place the current restrictions, announcing these as if they weren't at fault in the first place.

[Luxor]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

I too have been working in western Canada for 25 years in both unionized and non,.... My experience has been different boy.

Well then
Seems my dad is smarter n tougher than your dad .....kiddo

lol

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by Luxor

Well then
Seems my dad is smarter n tougher than your dad .....kiddo

lol

My dad is dead.

[roper1]

Originally Posted by Redfrog

Unless there is an NDP gov't. It then restricts all gov't work to unions only, whether employees want one or not. Been there. anyone who tells you different has not got a clue.

Look at this $15 minimum wage. Who is in favor of it? Those who will get it, those who are already making more than minimum, those who are not employers who's bottom line is directly affected and those who don't have to pay for it. What employee is not going to look for $5 more an hour? Again who is in favor of a $5 raise. Anyone who doesn't have to pay it.

When will people learn there is no free lunch and that when the government 'gives' you something, it was already yours or they took it from someone else. Government does not generate wealth.........except for politicians.

So help me Red, these guys can actually turn on a computer but they think Socialism will work. I clicked this thread @ lunch & truly cannot fathom how a person with a job & a Driver's licence cannot figure out it is their/our money the gov is using to buy shat them & the country can't afford. Their money & their kids, ask Greece. I gotta go outside & work so I can pay these morons some more of my tax money.........

[raab]

Originally Posted by roper1

So help me Red, these guys can actually turn on a computer but they think Socialism will work. I clicked this thread @ lunch & truly cannot fathom how a person with a job & a Driver's licence cannot figure out it is their/our money the gov is using to buy shat them & the country can't afford. Their money & their kids, ask Greece. I gotta go outside & work so I can pay these morons some more of my tax money.........

And I say again look at Harpers budgets since 2008. It appears he is unable to balance a budget.

[hal53]

Originally Posted by raab

And I say again look at Harpers budgets since 2008. It appears he is unable to balance a budget.

guess he should have gutted the military and scooped 40 billion from the EI fund....then you would be happy?

[avb3]

Originally Posted by raab

And I say again look at Harpers budgets since 2008. It appears he is unable to balance a budget.

http://business.financialpost.com/fp...ngement-frenzy

Now look at all the categories or Canada's at the top or near the top in this ranking.

Tell us again how bad we're doing.

[Luxor]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

My dad is dead.

Im sorry to hear that moosey

I was only goofn round

[Luxor]

Originally Posted by raab

And I say again look at Harpers budgets since 2008. It appears he is unable to balance a budget.

Well tell us how Trudeau will uplift Canada's economy?????

Oh ya....and tell us how you would balance Our budget????

You only seek change.....and you just think changing parties is going to get it for ya.
But you actually dont understand the differing parties at all
Grow up man !!!!

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by Luxor

Im sorry to hear that moosey

I was only goofn round

Figured... All good.

[raab]

Originally Posted by hal53

guess he should have gutted the military and scooped 40 billion from the EI fund....then you would be happy?

I'm just saying that it's illogical to say look at Greece's debt problem without acknowledging that we've consistently had deficits under the Harper Government. If your blaming Greece's situation on socialism you could just as easily look at Sweden and Norway as successes in socialism.

[Luxor]

Originally Posted by dgreen

There's actually a lot more truth to this than you realize. The Temporary Foreign Worker Program (started in the 1970s) was significantly expanded in 2006 under Harper's leadership and between 2006-2014 over 500,000 temporary foreign workers were brought into Canada. It's only once Canadians realized their jobs were being replaced and everyone including the conservative base protested that they put in place the current restrictions, announcing these as if they weren't at fault in the first place.

Ya I see the influx of foreign workers too.
Sad as it may be.
But some of them have become good friends with very interesting and sometimes very disturbing backgrounds of their homeland.

[Luxor]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

Figured... All good.

[Luxor]

Originally Posted by raab

I'm just saying that it's illogical to say look at Greece's debt problem without acknowledging that we've consistently had deficits under the Harper Government. If your blaming Greece's situation on socialism you could just as easily look at Sweden and Norway as successes in socialism.

We didnt get thru the 08 recession with mary poppins at the helm.

Did I already say...grow up man ???!!!!!

[raab]

Originally Posted by Luxor

Well tell us how Trudeau will uplift Canada's economy?????

Oh ya....and tell us how you would balance Our budget????

You only seek change.....and you just think changing parties is going to get it for ya.
But you actually dont understand the differing parties at all
Grow up man !!!!

I can show you what past Liberal governments have done. Here's a good article comparing the two. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe...ticle23252879/