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12-19-2020, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Savage Bacon
He was not complying simple as that. Just because you're stronger than a woman cop and wearing the proper foot gear for the environment doesn't mean you can resist and make them look like fools.
If she asks you to leave, leave.
If she asks you to get on the ground, get on the ground.
She should have tased him.
The guy recording the situation was saying this will be all over the news, well the video might just seal his friend's fate.
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Seems pretty straight forward. He thought he was smart and tough, and he found out he's neither. He does however have a court date, a new criminal record, and a will be a little bit poorer. You just can't fix stupid.
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12-19-2020, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason Bourne
I'm lost on your post. Are you saying it's "pretty sad actually" that people will NOT comply when they come for their firearms or just the opposite? Looking for clarification not an argument
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Saying most people are compliance zombies and will comply with anything offering no resistance.sorry for the lack of clarity
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12-19-2020, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguyd
If you think either one of those women did their jobs well , you my friend might be part of the problem 
Neither one has any clue how to diffuse a situation or control an incident. They both let there feelings and inexperience get in the way and had a freakout/ powertrip Very unprofessional and completely avoidable |
Agree for the.most part, but explain the completely avoidable part. What should they have done.
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12-19-2020, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RavYak
It makes me wonder how many of these officers are lacking the training and physical capability to properly subdue perpetrators.
Imagine if he was a dangerous individual that fought back...
I guess that probably explains why these girls were on rink duty.
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I may get corrected but i believe they carry pepper spray , tasers , batons and guns . So if this was a dangerous individual or situation the women would of probably approached the individual differently . Guns drawn , so to speak .
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12-19-2020, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mediumrare
Saying most people are compliance zombies and will comply with anything offering no resistance.sorry for the lack of clarity
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Thanks and i fully agree with you.
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12-19-2020, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by liar
I may get corrected but i believe they carry pepper spray , tasers , batons and guns . So if this was a dangerous individual or situation the women would of probably approached the individual differently . Guns drawn , so to speak .
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She was threatening to use her taser and freaking out in this situation with a non aggressive individual. She would probably loose her mind in a real conflict
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12-19-2020, 05:57 PM
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If only people would just do what they are told and not question authority, then the government would see that we are good subjects and we could have our freedoms back.
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12-19-2020, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Smoky buck
She was threatening to use her taser and freaking out in this situation with a non aggressive individual. She would probably loose her mind in a real conflict
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I cannot imagine the pressure one would feel with all the cameras running and knowing it would be going to social media. I think we need to support our police a little more. I understand it is an unpopular law, maybe it was just is unpopular to the officers involved as well, but they have to uphold the law. The guy was a tool, but it seems tools are a dime a dozen in the modern era.
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12-19-2020, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by heretohunt
If only people would just do what they are told and not question authority, then the government would see that we are good subjects and we could have our freedoms back.
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Hahaha! Yes, I agree, that's the right solution. Thanks, I needed that. Maybe if we just obey, we can earn 'merit badges', like in the Boy Scouts.
Maybe they will have a special badge for complying with the confiscation of all our firearms, because even though it's an unpopular law, it's for public safety.
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12-19-2020, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by pikergolf
I cannot imagine the pressure one would feel with all the cameras running and knowing it would be going to social media. I think we need to support our police a little more. I understand it is an unpopular law, maybe it was just is unpopular to the officers involved as well, but they have to uphold the law. The guy was a tool, but it seems tools are a dime a dozen in the modern era.
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Time to wisen up...he was skating in a phricken park!!!
Don't let that simple innocent fact escape you!!!
Absolutely pathetic...is this what we have become???
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12-19-2020, 06:09 PM
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Sure a lot of hypocrites on this thread, lol
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12-19-2020, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by hawk-i
Time to wisen up...he was skating in a phricken park!!!
Don't let that simple innocent fact escape you!!!
Absolutely pathetic...is this what we have become???
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No, he was playing hockey and ignoring the 6ft rule, two very different things.
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12-19-2020, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pikergolf
No, he was playing hockey and ignoring the 6ft rule, two very different things.
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Get a life...pathetic!
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12-19-2020, 06:15 PM
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Life is short ...first one on the iggy list... 
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12-19-2020, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by elk eater
Stay as quiet as a church mouse as they arrest you if you like. Still don’t stop them from arresting you. I don’t agree with what they did but they were not in the wrong regarding the arrest.
Not sure what people are trying to accomplish by not giving an officer your name ?! Like it’s some sort of big secret and your really show em who's boss. IMO just makes you look stupid, guilty and non compliant with a reasonable request.
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Perhaps one should read up in the manual about resisting unlawful arrest, what is an officer able to arrest you for, and forcing one to produce identification if you're not under arrest. Also should look up what can happen to an officer if they force you to identify yourself when the conditions are not met.
https://www.amazon.ca/Salhanys-Polic...8426777&sr=8-1
I think that's relevant in this situation.
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12-19-2020, 06:21 PM
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Seems like a good kid.
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12-19-2020, 06:27 PM
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I’m proud of that young fella. He carried himself in a decent manner. His buddies should have stood by him. They chickened out.
I not disappointed in those police officers, well they could have used better conduct. Other than that They did exactly what they are supposed to do, without thinking. Good little soldiers.
Nazis didn’t start with concentration camps.
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I would think there has to be to the story, what lead up to this whole karfuffel? They only show what was the worst part of the video.
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12-19-2020, 06:30 PM
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this thread has gotten lost real quick...bad boy,bad cops, Nazi's, freedom...jeepers eh.....needs to be shut down as it ran its course...
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12-19-2020, 06:32 PM
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this thread has gotten lost real quick...bad boy,bad cops, Nazi's, freedom...jeepers eh.....needs to be shut down as it ran its course...
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Not much of a fan of discussion or just don’t feel comfortable about the topic?
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12-19-2020, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BigJon
I’d have to disagree on times changing... rats have always existed throughout history. Jews snitched on the whereabouts of hiding Jews during the Nazi uprising... Russians snitching on neighbours for potential counter revolutionary meetings (friends getting together). It’s always been there and the motive is always the same.... be a good little snitch and hopefully you find yourself in tje good graces of the authorities.
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Yep, in all cases... the snitches thought they were getting ahead, but all they accomplished was forwarding the cause that oppressed them. Think long and hard about that.
As for the vid, the day that what those kids were doing became illegal, I became a proud criminal. Personally, I think that kid handled himself better than I would have.
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12-19-2020, 06:36 PM
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Not much of a fan of discussion or just don’t feel comfortable about the topic?
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It contradicts his world view.
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12-19-2020, 06:42 PM
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12-19-2020, 06:42 PM
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It’s funny how that the only part showing is not what instigated this. The RCMP responded with a letter to the media.
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12-19-2020, 06:45 PM
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It contradicts his world view.
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I am open to discussion that has relevance….if you actually compare our country to Nazi Germany well you have lost all credibility.
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12-19-2020, 06:52 PM
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There is a link In the politics thread to an interesting video about gun control in Nazi Germany. It’s very interesting, all about keeping people safe and preventing crime
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12-19-2020, 06:52 PM
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It’s funny how that the only part showing is not what instigated this. The RCMP responded with a letter to the media.
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Why would the RCMP respond, this had nothing to do with the RCMP.
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These covid laws are quite the sociology experiment
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12-19-2020, 06:58 PM
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I am open to discussion that has relevance….if you actually compare our country to Nazi Germany well you have lost all credibility.
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In my experience, you actually aren't open to discussion that contradicts you.
I don't think anybody compared Canada to 'Nazi Germany'. I think the point being made was that Nazi Germany didn't start with concentrations camps and Jews being massacred. It started with ordinary people who were only too happy to go along with whatever rules and laws their leaders came up with, and were happy to support the police (Gestapo) who enforced those laws. It was a matter of social conditioning. It was for the good of the Fatherland.
2 years ago, you would have been the first to decry the very concept of churches and businesses being shut down and people being arrested and fined for gathering, speaking, going about their life. Especially in such a hypocritical manner as has been done.
Now, you are all for it. Granted, you have always backed anything anybody with a badge does, with no questions asked. That is social conditioning.
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12-19-2020, 07:01 PM
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These covid laws are quite the sociology experiment
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Have they convinced you to surrender your firearms for public safety yet?
Me either.
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