Cows on our land

[HowSwedeItIs]

Originally Posted by singleshotom

Some people should stay in the city or town. They move out to the country an
just don't want to figure things out country style.
Some just need to stay where they are raised........... plain an simple....
figure things out with your niebor or move back into town where nothing bothers you.

Haha I don't know they do things where you're from but where I'm at we have at least some standards... even in completely imaginary situations

[fish_e_o]

Originally Posted by Juliat

All I wanted to know is if someone's livestock get off their land and start attacking people or destroying property, what can you legally do about it? If a stray animal comes on the property im well within my rights to protect my animals, I wasn't sure if this applies to livestock. I have no intention of shooting his cows out of spite, this is purely a question of protection.

if you feel like your life is threatened it shouldn't matter what's legal because preserving life comes before law.

that being said cows are like big dumb dogs. they might eat things, rut stuff up, swarm you when you leave the house but they aren't going to hurt you. tell them to "GET!" if they don't listen smack em, if they still don't listen smack em harder. repeat until you achieve desired results.

heck if you smack em hard enough enough times they might go back through the gate

[fargineyesore]

Some cows can be scary. Couple years ago I was driving down a highway and saw someone's cow out. The owner of the cow happened to come by and I stopped and was going to help him herd her into his pasture, but the damn thing spotted me and headed straight for me, not by accident. I grew up on a farm with cows and can tell the difference between a cow that is just trying to get by you and one that is aggressive and trying to run you down.

Most cows will go when told to, but there are a few that are what we used to call "wild" and if we wound up with one it either got sold or butchered.

[albertadave]

Originally Posted by Sneeze

Wow, you suffered injuries that resulted in a hospital stay and your asking me for advice? Get a lawyer and fix the problem. Just because you are outside city limits doesn't mean you should have to tolerate getting knocked around by cattle you don't own.

Plus if you are not running cattle why should you have to fix the fence? I'm not in business of doing free labor for other businesses. Unless you are in his will I would deal with a lawyer and a brand inspector.

Don't shoot the cows, in Alberta we have archaic laws about gunning them from days before ranchers had quads and post pounders.

That's too bad because I heard that torkdiesel was looking for a couple guys. lol

[antlercarver]

If deer who lived on the old mans farm wandered onto his land, the poster would probably not be complaining, even if he had no hunting licence. May even post his land.

[albertabighorn]

Originally Posted by Full Curl Earl

Tough crowd!
If he's being ignorant and cant keep his animals out of your place,
Kill it and eat well!
Most fellas on here would tell you to shoot it if it was a dog on your property.

X8

Looks like free meat for the winter. Kill the rest that are causing harm to you.

[mark-edmonton]

Originally Posted by Full Curl Earl

Tough crowd!
If he's being ignorant and cant keep his animals out of your place,
Kill it and eat well!
Most fellas on here would tell you to shoot it if it was a dog on your property.

I agree fully, some guys are starting to sound like the fishing forum!

[Luckwell]

Originally Posted by albertabighorn

X8



Looks like free meat for the winter. Kill the rest that are causing harm to you.

Mighty neighbourly

[Scott h]

Originally Posted by Juliat

That was my thought too. He's already shot a few dogs that got in with the cows and everyone understands. But shoot a stray cow that's charging people and everyone flips out.

Well you have your answer. If he's shot dogs on his property he will understand if you fill your freezer. Enjoy the BBQ

[guywiththemule]

Originally Posted by Juliat

Honestly, I didn't think this was going to turn into such a debate of ethics. It looks like everyone will have to agree to disagree. All I wanted to know is if someone's livestock get off their land and start attacking people or destroying property, what can you legally do about it? If a stray animal comes on the property im well within my rights to protect my animals, I wasn't sure if this applies to livestock. I have no intention of shooting his cows out of spite, this is purely a question of protection.

My apologies for stirring the pot on what seems to be a very sensitive subject.

You were advised on what to do according to the "Alberta Stray Animals Act" by repeated posters. You chose to ignore it.

[albertabighorn]

Originally Posted by Luckwell

Mighty neighbourly

Shoot it

[urcayuse]

Buddy ,if it was one of MY cows that came into YOUR yard and roughed you up, I sincerely hope you'd have the good sense to shoot the damn thing. I would understand.

[Matt L.]

Originally Posted by guywiththemule

You were advised on what to do according to the "Alberta Stray Animals Act" by repeated posters. You chose to ignore it.

/thread

[OpenRange]

4 pages on this??? Question was answered long ago boys! Horse throughly beaten. Call LIS they come and take the animals at owners expense. If the problem persists the animals are hauled to the nearest livestock market, again at owners expense and sold. NEEEEEXT topic!

[Digger1]

Phone Rachel. She knows how to handle us farmers.

[Tactical Lever]

Originally Posted by Scott h

Well you have your answer. If he's shot dogs on his property he will understand if you fill your freezer. Enjoy the BBQ

Originally Posted by Digger1

Phone Rachel. She knows how to handle us farmers.

Best answers right here!

[avb3]

Originally Posted by hillbillyreefer

......
Was it a bull or a cow? You seem confused. Why would the bull be out this time of year no one I know breeds to calve in Nov/Dec? What does go in the back mean? I've been around bulls my entire adult life there are probably 300 of them within 10 mile of here, none have ever busted through a fence to beat up a parked car, you watch too much TV......

Maybe it was a steer that caused the confusion you think?

[last minute]

Originally Posted by Juliat

I have a neighbor who is very elderly and unable to maintain the fences to keep his cows in. They have been on my property as well as several neighbors at least three times this month. They have damaged vehicles, knocked over thousands of dollars worth of trees and several days ago one charged me in my yard and landed me in the hospital. I now have physio costs as well as missed work to deal with. The owners response was look for cows before you go outside and you won't get killed. Can I shoot these cows if they get out again or is there some way to force a rancher in Alberta to sell his livestock (he only has about a dozen left, that's all he can "manage")? Any direction here would be very much appreciated!

wow

[justhunt]

Originally Posted by guywiththemule

Phone the brand inspector for your county or the local Rcmp who will assist you or point you to a brand inspector.

Best advice so far unless you want to try to be a good neighbour and help with the fences

[ishootbambi]

I have to question the motivation for more leaving this open? That important to boost traffic?

[Smason]

If the original poster has not yet called the brand inspector, they are a troll or do not really want to solve this problem.

[Juliat]

I don't generally use forums so I'm not sure if I have to close this out or someone else. We did end up calling a brand inspector and looked up the stray animals act as recommended. Thanks for the help!

[Redfrog]

"Was it a bull or a cow? You seem confused."

Was this near Jenner? Maybe it was a cow trapped in a bull's body.

[redneck yote]

Originally Posted by Juliat

I don't generally use forums so I'm not sure if I have to close this out or someone else. We did end up calling a brand inspector and looked up the stray animals act as recommended. Thanks for the help!

Do you mind Telling us Who you talked to with L.I.S ??

[cschache]

obviously the animal has mad cow! lol! sorry i had too!

[elk396]

Originally Posted by James 1

Honestly this is the best advice around. Neibors don't go looking for excuses they help each other out.

Obviously you've never had this done to yourself. He has probably done this crap his whole life, not just since he's become 'old'. You can't have your livestock charging neighbours and damaging thousands of trees. If its a one time thing, well then you help the neighbour , but this sounds ridiculous. I'd find out if he has family, get them involved if possible and end it, or you will never live in peace.

[Travco1]

be a good neighbour , you might make a friend , round up all the neighbours and fix his fence, then ask him for a box of steak to help you recover.

[coolpete1]

Originally Posted by Redfrog

"Was it a bull or a cow? You seem confused."

Was this near Jenner? Maybe it was a cow trapped in a bull's body.

that would explain the unpredictable and odd behavior of the animal, because most cows are well known for attacking vehicles in between grazing and sleeping

[coolpete1]

Originally Posted by elk396

Obviously you've never had this done to yourself. He has probably done this crap his whole life, not just since he's become 'old'. You can't have your livestock charging neighbours and damaging thousands of trees. If its a one time thing, well then you help the neighbour , but this sounds ridiculous. I'd find out if he has family, get them involved if possible and end it, or you will never live in peace.

must be half cow half goat with the tree damage that extensive

[HighlandHeart]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

People are more inclined to help out an elder as opposed to an able bodied man in his prime. Something old school people hand down to there kids. Respect.

I am not the kind of guy who agrees with most rules, but old school rules like this are important to keep alive, even if they are followed less and less by many.