Fair price for primers?

[marky_mark]

on the other hand, what are you replacing these components with???

[birdseye]

hard to bash or complain about others when who knows what the person selling has paid,travelled,shipped or tradded or any other costs included on or for the item listed to sell.If I have ever wanted to purchase something it usually depends on how bad the item is needed or wanted.If the needs equal the price its purchased
If not i wait.

[CNP]

[Twisted Canuck]

And, we currently have several of these Threads of Outrage going. I don't think we need another. I'm going to consolidate it randomly with some other one.

[Beached Whale]

Originally Posted by birdseye

hard to bash or complain about others when who knows what the person selling has paid,travelled,shipped or tradded or any other costs included on or for the item listed to sell.

That is the cost of doing business i guess, but just because they made that decision doesn't mean it was a good one. People make poor financial decisions all the time, but only a foolish customer allows that mistake to get passed on to them.

Do all these fellows in Calgary buying and selling powder for $120 or more not know that you can run down the the Canadian Tire on southland and buy Varget, H4831, H4350, and about 8 other powders for $80 a pound or less? Sure doesn't seem like it.

[tranq78]

Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck

And, we currently have several of these Threads of Outrage going. I don't think we need another. I'm going to consolidate it randomly with some other one.

You have the power.

Just remember...

With great power comes great responsibility -- Tales of the Gun

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[32-40win]

I keep looking at stuff on a regular basis, various places. Saw a shop mentioned on another site, hadn't heard of them, had primers, few different brands, as godd a price as a person is likely to find anywhere. Has a storefront, website, phone numbers, reviews. Problem was where it is, freight is definitely a factor out of Quebec since Canpar quit, I just didn't really need them. But, if I'd needed them, I'd just do it and bite the bullet these days. Lots of places in the US that are more money involved than up here. USPS raised rates over Xmas too.

[gunluvr]

Personally, I think the ammo and components shortages are artificially contrived by manufacturers (at least to some extent) to drive up prices, effectually creating huge profits with little or no increased expense. Sure, they say they're working 24/7 to fill orders, but are they?
Watched a YouTube video of an interview with (Jim?) Nosler in his factory. Shelves were all empty but didnt see anyone restocking them as the interview went on. Just seems odd if they really are working 24/7.
Ammo, etc. flies off the shelves like never before and the whole supply chain benefits, but not shooters. And the antis along with leftist governments are quietly enjoying it.

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by gunluvr

Personally, I think the ammo and components shortages are artificially contrived by manufacturers (at least to some extent) to drive up prices, effectually creating huge profits with little or no increased expense. Sure, they say they're working 24/7 to fill orders, but are they?
Watched a YouTube video of an interview with (Jim?) Nosler in his factory. Shelves were all empty but didnt see anyone restocking them as the interview went on. Just seems odd if they really are working 24/7.
Ammo, etc. flies off the shelves like never before and the whole supply chain benefits, but not shooters. And the antis along with leftist governments are quietly enjoying it.

They werent restocking the shelves because they were going out the door as fast as they were coming off the line
Dont forget about the war in the ukraine
Lots of ammo being used over there
Also the stockpiling for any potential conflict with china

[gunluvr]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

They werent restocking the shelves because they were going out the door as fast as they were coming off the line
Dont forget about the war in the ukraine
Lots of ammo being used over there
Also the stockpiling for any potential conflict with china

Do you work for Nosler? Just kidding, relax.
We've all heard the excuses. Much like Biden's excuses for inflation.

[gunluvr]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

They werent restocking the shelves because they were going out the door as fast as they were coming off the line
Dont forget about the war in the ukraine
Lots of ammo being used over there
Also the stockpiling for any potential conflict with china

Nosler was explaining that the empty shelves behind him were for the daily orders.

[marky_mark]

Originally Posted by gunluvr

Do you work for Nosler? Just kidding, relax.
We've all heard the excuses. Much like Biden's excuses for inflation.

lol
I dont know if there is any conspiracy from the american side
Do i think the canadian govt would block primers from being imported? YEP

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

lol
I dont know if there is any conspiracy from the american side
Do i think the canadian govt would block primers from being imported? YEP

Would they block imports? Of course they would, but they don’t have to because there are none to import.

[bschlinker]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

While I do feel for someone trying to start out in the sport, the people that seem to be complaining the most about prices, and shortages, are not new to the sport. Some of us warned that this was coming two years ago, then again last year, yet some people chose to ignore our advise to stock up enough to last a few years. I still have people pestering me to sell them powder or primers, after I advised them multiple times over the past couple of years to stock up. I have liquidated most of my surplus components at very fair prices, mostly to people starting out in loading, or people that took my advise to stock up a bit, but some people think that just because I have more primers and powder that I will use in the next year, I should sell them some, at the prices that they sold for last year.
The simple fact is if you have been in the sport for even a few years, you had the same opportunity as everyone else to stock up, before supplies dwindled, and prices climbed. I myself have helped out many people over the years to obtain components, but I won't risk running out myself, to help out someone that simply didn't plan ahead.
As for the people selling primers for $500/1000, or bullets for $150/box, or powder for $150/lb, I keep track of them, in case they need something in the future, and I have extra, so I can charge them the same kind of prices.
The bottom line, is that it comes down to supply and demand, and the demand is increasing as some people run out, and the supply is at least a year or two from catching up, so don't expect much improvement for at least a year or two.

Most of us the AO community are of a similar mindset and do not look favorably on price gouging. At the same time, not everyone in the community should be expected to hold a “fire sale” when selling hard to find components or ammunition either. I felt a need to comment to this post, as it would appear I may have been indirectly accused of “gouging” with the reference made to someone selling bullets for $150/box. If this reference was not directed to my posting in the buy & sell, then I’ll apologize in advance.

If this reference was directed at my posting, I would simply like an opportunity to respond. Big boy rifles are expensive to shoot and I understand not everyone is interested (or able) to spend the money required in order to shoot this great caliber... People not familiar with the largest of the medium bore rifles might be surprised to learn that retail price on factory ammunition for a .375 H&H is between $5.00 & $10.00 per bullet (if you are lucky enough to find some). As with all components, the price will vary depending on the manufacturer and quality of the brass & bullet.

I understand $150 for a box of ammunition may seem extremely high to many at first glance, but the reality is that the price I’m asking for the .375 Nosler Safari ammunition (c/w Nosler/Norma Brass and 300 gr. Nosler Partitions) is $15-$20 under the retail price that they were selling for 2ish years ago (and substantially less than the Sako – Swift A-Frames that I’ve purchased over the last few months). Personally, I do not consider that price gouging. If anyone is looking for this specific ammunition, I’m happy to be able to help them out. If not, like you, I’m perfectly fine keeping an adequate inventory of supplies, as I also do not anticipate pricing to decrease at any point in the near future.

For reference, retail price for the ammunition I have listed in the buy/sell and am referring to, is listed below (note price is in US Dollars):
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1001982298

Wishing you & everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy Holiday Season 😊

[Twisted Canuck]

Originally Posted by tranq78

You have the power.

Just remember...

With great power comes great responsibility -- Tales of the Gun

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I do have some inconsequential power, so I merged all three Outraged About Prices threads together.

May as well keep it all in one place.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by bschlinker

Most of us the AO community are of a similar mindset and do not look favorably on price gouging. At the same time, not everyone in the community should be expected to hold a “fire sale” when selling hard to find components or ammunition either. I felt a need to comment to this post, as it would appear I may have been indirectly accused of “gouging” with the reference made to someone selling bullets for $150/box. If this reference was not directed to my posting in the buy & sell, then I’ll apologize in advance.

If this reference was directed at my posting, I would simply like an opportunity to respond. Big boy rifles are expensive to shoot and I understand not everyone is interested (or able) to spend the money required in order to shoot this great caliber... People not familiar with the largest of the medium bore rifles might be surprised to learn that retail price on factory ammunition for a .375 H&H is between $5.00 & $10.00 per bullet (if you are lucky enough to find some). As with all components, the price will vary depending on the manufacturer and quality of the brass & bullet.

I understand $150 for a box of ammunition may seem extremely high to many at first glance, but the reality is that the price I’m asking for the .375 Nosler Safari ammunition (c/w Nosler/Norma Brass and 300 gr. Nosler Partitions) is $15-$20 under the retail price that they were selling for 2ish years ago (and substantially less than the Sako – Swift A-Frames that I’ve purchased over the last few months). Personally, I do not consider that price gouging. If anyone is looking for this specific ammunition, I’m happy to be able to help them out. If not, like you, I’m perfectly fine keeping an adequate inventory of supplies, as I also do not anticipate pricing to decrease at any point in the near future.

For reference, retail price for the ammunition I have listed in the buy/sell and am referring to, is listed below (note price is in US Dollars):
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1001982298

Wishing you & everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy Holiday Season 😊

I was not referring to you, my reference was to bullets, not loaded ammunition.

[jthoward11]

I'm late to the party...but I have seen the CamPro Ginex primers our there for $200-$250. Seems reasonable these days.

[markg]

I picked 500 recently from a local store in Calgary. I split a brick with a friend for $300.00

So my 500 cost $150.00 but I was just glad to get them.

[catnthehat]

I just bought 12,000 thousand Federals for $149 per 1,000
Cat

[H380]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

I just bought 12,000 thousand Federals for $149 per 1,000

Cat

Cat that's more ammo than the Canadian army has on hand ...lol

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[Pathfinder76]

I just got 1000 federal primers for free! :-)

[sns2]

Originally Posted by Pathfinder76

I just got 1000 federal primers for free! :-)

Can't financiers get in deep spit for stealing???

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[catnthehat]

I apologize, i should have posted where I got my primers from.
Andrew Higginson of Higginson Powders.
1 613 632 9300
Get 'em while they're available
He has Federal and CCI
Cat

[Ackleyman]

Best deal i've heard of in years now, How hard to they hit with shipping from Ontario ?

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by Ackleyman

Best deal i've heard of in years now, How hard to they hit with shipping from Ontario ?

I can't remember, it is reasonable though . Regardless, it is what it is ! LOL
Cat

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by sns2

Can't financiers get in deep spit for stealing???

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I feel like I did! Lol

[32-40win]

Seeing more consistent availability down south now, still kinda dicy, but can be had with some searching. Prices look like about 90-150/1000 down there at the places like Brownells, Natchez, Graf's etc, depending on brand and type of primer. Major issue up here is the freight factor if ordered from out of town or province vs how bad you want them. One way or the other 150/1000 up here is liable to be about what it is for quite a while across this country for Vista and WW stuff. Same krap with powder depending on the brand you want, as far as freight goes. Would be nice to be able to buy within the province, bit cheaper that way.

[honda610]

I grabbed 3k large rifle magnum and 3k large rifle.
Primers from Higginsons as well Cat. Your lucky you got that many. I phoned yesterday early afternoon. By the time my buddy phoned in the late afternoon the limit of 1k per type was implemented.
I've had lots of people I barley know calling me for powder primers loaded ammo. I tell them if I sold some to them all my kids would be practicing with sling shots. I did help out a few ladies needing 410 shells.for there kids and a few guys getting into handload with powder and primers. I got caught years ago looking for varget when I bought my..308 during the shortage. THANKS CAT!! Since then my locker looks like Sara Conners C can.⁰⁰

[schleprock]

I was also lucky in that I phoned first thing in the morning and bought 2.5k large rifle and 2.5k large rifle magnum primers thanks to the heads up from “the cat”.

[Dick284]

I predict a lot of price cuts coming in the buy and sell really soon.

I got my top up from Higginson, as did a few buddies I clued in. We ship our orders together to cut down on the freight charges.