Just came home from Trump's Tampa rally

[Jpl]

Originally Posted by fargineyesore

Boy do you have a self-important sanctimonious attitude toward people that do not agree with the establishment. You know, the establishment that is doing such a great job now. Maybe you're the one that needs to wake up.

Sigh! Sanctimonious, that's all you saw.

[fargineyesore]

Originally Posted by Jpl

Sigh! Sanctimonious, that's all you saw.

All I needed because none of your other points were any different than any of his detractors.

[RavYak]

Originally Posted by fargineyesore

Boy do you have a self-important sanctimonious attitude toward people that do not agree with the establishment. You know, the establishment that is doing such a great job now. Maybe you're the one that needs to wake up.

The NDP got into power here in AB because of that same thinking and look how great that has been for us...

The grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence...

The current establishment has its issues but that doesn't mean you vote for just anyone that opposes it which is what a lot of these republicans are doing...

It is too bad that Kasich didn't do a better job of getting his views across as he is probably the best republican candidate at this time. He sat back too much while the others bickered and fought about penis size and other stupid meaningless topics though and now it will be very tough for him to make a come back... The news outlets haven't helped him at all though as they have played to Trumps cards from day one to try and boost their ratings...

[fargineyesore]

All you did was mention the "hate" word a bunch of times, typical when anyone questions the "tolerant of everything" attitude, then made remarks about Alberta Social Studies and comprehension of it.

Your post is basically saying anyone that agrees with any of Trumps positions is a hater, prejudicial, bigotted, and not really smart.

That about sum it up?

[fargineyesore]

Originally Posted by RavYak

The NDP got into power here in AB because of that same thinking and look how great that has been for us...

The grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence...

The current establishment has its issues but that doesn't mean you vote for just anyone that opposes it which is what a lot of these republicans are doing...

It is too bad that Kasich didn't do a better job of getting his views across as he is probably the best republican candidate at this time. He sat back too much while the others bickered and fought about penis size and other stupid meaningless topics though and now it will be very tough for him to make a come back... The news outlets haven't helped him at all though as they have played to Trumps cards from day one to try and boost their ratings...

The vote was split allowing the NDP to come up the middle.

[JimPS]

Originally Posted by Jpl

Wow. I always believed people like this existed but never had proof until I joined this forum. Now I wish I had stayed in the hunting and archery side of this forum. This stuff is keeping me up at night.

I was better off thinking such views and contempt for human civilization were just isolated to the southern portions of the U.S where ignorance and bigotry where continuously past on from generations of mating cousins and siblings. I stand corrected.

I'm amazed by the sheer ignorance of some of the views over the past few days. I sincerely worry for some of these people. I'm equally fascinated however to the formation of such thought and opinion. How was it formed? Where did it come from? Was grade 12 social studies (in Alberta) that difficult for you, didn't you learn anything from studying Ideology?

My bias is showing, how can it not!? Trump support masks itself in the form of Calling it like it is, a better America when really you marry yourself to other supporters who openly hate other races, women, encourage hate and any other person that is defined outside their Judeo Christian razor thin window of acceptance.

It's a farce and no such thing as Trump support could ever lead to a misogynistic, egomaniacal and bigoted racist to be the leader of the free world. Not your god, "their" god or anyone else's god would ever let that happen. For F-Sakes wake up!

There's no need to stay up at night worrying about some of the things you read here. This forum can be fairly entertaining and somewhat informative at times, but no body takes any of the more extreme comments very seriously.

The moderators have been slowly depopulating the forum of some of our more colorful members in order to become more politically correct. It's taken away some of the old vibe around here and makes it more palatable for some.

Consequently, entertainment value is decreasing exponentially.

That being said, it's still no surprise that this forum is referred to on many other fishing and outdoors forums as that "Redneck Forum".

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[avb3]

Originally Posted by Bergerboy

A country can be run like a buisness or run poorly. The population should not be consulted as to what decisions should be made. Unless only a certain group are consulted. Look what happens when we let millenials vote. Too many people with no skin in the game are allowed to have an opinion. This has to stop.

You're serious? We need to take the RIGHT to vote away from a segment of the population who is over the age of majority?

Yes, I met a few who had your perspectives at Trump's rally yesterday. My opinion of them was less than stellar. But then I do believe in democracy. As Churchill said, it's the worst system out there, except all the others.

[Sneeze]

Originally Posted by Jpl

contempt for human civilization were just isolated to the southern portions of the U.S

where ignorance and bigotry where continuously past on from generations of mating cousins and siblings.

sheer ignorance
Was grade 12 social studies (in Alberta) that difficult for you,
bigoted racist
Not your god,
For F-Sakes

Don't sweat it, your rainbow riding pink unicorn will have no trouble jumping over the wall Trump wants to build between the US and Mexico.

Hook a carriage made of candy to him/her and you and Kathleen Wynne can bring them all here to tell them about LGBTQ rights and the evils of baby Jesus.

[chasingtail]

Originally Posted by RavYak

The NDP got into power here in AB because of that same thinking and look how great that has been for us...

The NDP got into power because the people went for someone like Sanders not Trump. Sanders is the worst out of all, a Marxist Jew wanting to set up a system the same as his comrades in the old USSR. I would still take him over Hillary though just for the fact I can't stand to look or listen to her. Hillary comes across as a naggy wife, beside she let her husband rape women and covered it up with the help of the media. Also took donations via the Clinton Foundation from Middle Eastern dictators in exchange for weapons contracts when she was Secretary of State. She has received more wall street donations then all the other candidates combined, complete criminal.

The biggest threat to the West is mass immigration from the third world, nothing else matters.

[RavYak]

Originally Posted by fargineyesore

The vote was split allowing the NDP to come up the middle.

The average Albertan was sick of the conservative party and voted for NDP to spite the conservatives.

It is the exact same thinking voting for Trump to spite the establishment which was in all intents and purposes what you were arguing.

As I have said before any American who actually has a problem with the establishment and the way the political and financial systems are run only has one candidate that they should be voting for and his name is Sanders. He might have a few other issues that you don't agree with but he is the only candidate that actually plans on changing the system and for the most part for the better.

Trump uses his establishment and corruption arguments simply as a tactic to gain voters and make his other competitors look bad. He uses the argument that his campaign is self funded(which isn't true and much that he does fund he does with loans that he hopes he will get back...) to make this point and to appeal to the masses sick of the system. If he gets enough donations he will pay himself back and will have funded very little of his actual campaign and as I have stated he will not actually destroy the system that helped him become the rich man he became by playing said system...

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by chasingtail

The NDP got into power because the people went for someone like Sanders not Trump. Sanders is the worst out of all, a Marxist Jew wanting to set up a system the same as his comrades in the old USSR. I would still take him over Hillary though just for the fact I can't stand to look or listen to her. Hillary comes across as a naggy wife, beside she let her husband rape women and covered it up with the help of the media. Also took donations via the Clinton Foundation from Middle Eastern dictators in exchange for weapons contracts when she was Secretary of State. She has received more wall street donations then all the other candidates combined, complete criminal.

The biggest threat to the West is mass immigration from the third world, nothing else matters.

Clinton is Trumps best ally. Running against a criminal like her , he might actually have a chance.

[avb3]

Originally Posted by Sneeze

Don't sweat it, your rainbow riding pink unicorn will have no trouble jumping over the wall Trump wants to build between the US and Mexico.

Hook a carriage made of candy to him/her and you and Kathleen Wynne can bring them all here to tell them about LGBTQ rights and the evils of baby Jesus.

I see you included all sorts of magical entities in your comment.

[fargineyesore]

Originally Posted by RavYak

The average Albertan was sick of the conservative party and voted for NDP to spite the conservatives.

It is the exact same thinking voting for Trump to spite the establishment which was in all intents and purposes what you were arguing.

As I have said before any American who actually has a problem with the establishment and the way the political and financial systems are run only has one candidate that they should be voting for and his name is Sanders. He might have a few other issues that you don't agree with but he is the only candidate that actually plans on changing the system and for the most part for the better.

Trump uses his establishment and corruption arguments simply as a tactic to gain voters and make his other competitors look bad. He uses the argument that his campaign is self funded(which isn't true and much that he does fund he does with loans that he hopes he will get back...) to make this point and to appeal to the masses sick of the system. If he gets enough donations he will pay himself back and will have funded very little of his actual campaign and as I have stated he will not actually destroy the system that helped him become the rich man he became by playing said system...

True, but remember many voted Wildrose also, not all voted NDP.

[Bergerboy]

Originally Posted by RavYak

The average Albertan was sick of the conservative party and voted for NDP to spite the conservatives.

It is the exact same thinking voting for Trump to spite the establishment which was in all intents and purposes what you were arguing.

As I have said before any American who actually has a problem with the establishment and the way the political and financial systems are run only has one candidate that they should be voting for and his name is Sanders. He might have a few other issues that you don't agree with but he is the only candidate that actually plans on changing the system and for the most part for the better.

Trump uses his establishment and corruption arguments simply as a tactic to gain voters and make his other competitors look bad. He uses the argument that his campaign is self funded(which isn't true and much that he does fund he does with loans that he hopes he will get back...) to make this point and to appeal to the masses sick of the system. If he gets enough donations he will pay himself back and will have funded very little of his actual campaign and as I have stated he will not actually destroy the system that helped him become the rich man he became by playing said system...

Wouldnt your efforts be a lot better spent on an American political forum than trying to convince Albertans? This is akin to yelling at the TV during a sporting event to give direction to the players. Your passion to change CANADIANS opinion on what is happening in AMERICA (hint, its just a little south of us) is amusing as heck though.

[raab]

Originally Posted by chasingtail

The NDP got into power because the people went for someone like Sanders not Trump. Sanders is the worst out of all, a Marxist Jew wanting to set up a system the same as his comrades in the old USSR. I would still take him over Hillary though just for the fact I can't stand to look or listen to her. Hillary comes across as a naggy wife, beside she let her husband rape women and covered it up with the help of the media. Also took donations via the Clinton Foundation from Middle Eastern dictators in exchange for weapons contracts when she was Secretary of State. She has received more wall street donations then all the other candidates combined, complete criminal.

The biggest threat to the West is mass immigration from the third world, nothing else matters.

Yes because wanting universal healthcare and free tuition at public colleges and universities is clearly going to turn the US into the former USSR. You must really hate living here in socialist Canada. My question is why haven't you moved yet?

[Bergerboy]

Originally Posted by fargineyesore

True, but remember many voted Wildrose also, not all voted NDP.

What I am interested about is how the true NDP supporters feel about the actions they have taken over the last year. I know loud and clear how the conservatives feel.

[RavYak]

Originally Posted by chasingtail

The NDP got into power because the people went for someone like Sanders not Trump. Sanders is the worst out of all, a Marxist Jew wanting to set up a system the same as his comrades in the old USSR. I would still take him over Hillary though just for the fact I can't stand to look or listen to her. Hillary comes across as a naggy wife, beside she let her husband rape women and covered it up with the help of the media. Also took donations via the Clinton Foundation from Middle Eastern dictators in exchange for weapons contracts when she was Secretary of State. She has received more wall street donations then all the other candidates combined, complete criminal.

The biggest threat to the West is mass immigration from the third world, nothing else matters.

Sanders' democratic socialist beliefs are nothing like the state capitalism pseudo communist USSR and your ignorance on that subject is obvious if you are going to argue that fact... Sanders' democratic socialist beliefs are MUCH closer to our own Canadian system and that of other democratic socialist countries like Denmark, Sweden, Germany etc then it is the other socialist(note lack of democratic) like states of the USSR, China and central and south american countries. There is a HUGE difference in these systems and anyone with half a brain should be able to see our socialist side here in Canada and realize that it largely does more good then harm...

That said yes Sanders is more akin to our NDP and as I have stated there are aspects that I disagree with him on. He wants to make changes to NAFTA which depending on just how far he wants to go could significantly hurt us Canadians, that is where it is important that our representatives make sure we can keep the deal fair. I also disagree with a 15 dollar minimum wage as there are jobs for high school students etc that don't deserve those wages. But I also greater disagree with Trump who says the minimum wage has to stay at 7.25... And those are just a couple of the things I disagree with him on.

Those are far smaller issues then his big issues of healthcare which is needed in the US, reducing university tuition which again is needed in the US(maybe not free as Sanders wants but definitely reduced) and getting money out of politics and correcting the flawed system that for the most part allows big money to control who runs their country...

Sanders has his issues but he is far from the US's worst choice at this time. That is clearly Trump, but most people are just blind or refuse to accept it... Even bought liar law breaking Hillary would be a better choice...

The good thing is that Trump will not win the general election. Unless Hillary wins the Democratic nomination and then gets kicked out of the election due to he legal issues... Trump has alienated far too much of the US's population to win a general election, no democrat will vote for him, fewer blacks and hispanics will vote for him and many of the intelligent republicans have even been stating they will refuse to vote for him and may even vote against him...

[RavYak]

Originally Posted by Bergerboy

Wouldnt your efforts be a lot better spent on an American political forum than trying to convince Albertans? This is akin to yelling at the TV during a sporting event to give direction to the players. Your passion to change CANADIANS opinion on what is happening in AMERICA (hint, its just a little south of us) is amusing as heck though.

I am just bored lol.

And it drives me nuts seeing the ignorance displayed both in the US and here above the border regarding both Trump and Sanders.

Canadians in particular should not want Trump in power. Sanders is even a potentially bad thing for Canadians but he is significantly better for the American people.

The best option for Canadians is probably Kasich or Hillary.

[Bergerboy]

Originally Posted by RavYak

I am just bored lol.

And it drives me nuts seeing the ignorance displayed both in the US and here above the border regarding both Trump and Sanders.

Canadians in particular should not want Trump in power. Sanders is even a potentially bad thing for Canadians but he is significantly better for the American people.

The best option for Canadians is probably Kasich or Hillary.

I dont think Hillary is a good option for the oil and gas folks up here.

[happy5]

Originally Posted by avb3

Personally, I think he is a horrible choice. From my perspectives, on the Republican side, the two most qualified are/were Kasich and Bush. I also had some respect for Christie before he backed Trump, although, as I said, after hearing him yesterday, I get why. I hope Kasich wins Ohio as that is his only chance of continuing. Failing that, I would very reluctantly support Cruz, who I also think is a wacko, just not as dangerous as Trump is.

Kasich is pro-TPP, pro common core - two examples of things that are part of the globalist agenda but will be bad for America.

He also loses any respect he earned from me here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq9Sm_gX49o

I've heard worse things about him, but I haven't checked their veracity so I won't repeat. He's a minor player.

Originally Posted by avb3

If Trump is the nominee, get ready for a Clinton presidency. Again, as I mentioned in the OP, many of my Republican neighbors would rather have that, rebound in 4 years, than having Trump destroy the party for many years.

I highly doubt that. I think Trump will win. First of all, there will be no "rebound in 4 years" if she promotes 3-5 Supreme Court justices and brings in 10+ million new Democrat voters. American conservativism will be officially dead.

Secondly, Trump pulls most of the independents and many moderate Democrats (eg. Jim Webb, who started off as a Democrat candidate said he'd support Trump over Hillary). Keep in mind that the Democrats are split 50/50 as well, and most Bernie supporters tend to loathe Hillary (Bernie is the anti-establishment offering on their side). Many of them will likely end up voting for Trump, too. All of these Trump supporters will be lost to the Republican party if they cheat Trump out of the nomination. He is their best shot at beating Hillary.

Of course the GOPe probably like Hillary and prefer her to Trump because she's going to implement the globalist agenda... I mean because she's not a dangerous neo-Nazi like he is. ;-)

Originally Posted by avb3

You forgot Obama's birth place.

Most of this is conspiracy theory stuff, which I even despise more than PC stuff. He certainly does have the wing-nut vote, not that everyone who supports him is a wing-nut.

If anything that the mainstream media refuses to report on is a "conspiracy theory", then I guess so. But it's pretty well factual that the unemployment numbers are "doctored" - millions of people are considered out of the workforce who shouldn't be and the biggest gains in employment have been service jobs and part time jobs. Obama's recovery is an illusion. Shrinking Middle Class and declining Middle Class wages and increasing wealth disparity are reality.

Originally Posted by avb3

He knows branding and real estate. (and golf courses). He knows little of trade and the economy, and uses FUD to peddle his schtick. The TPP opens UP free trade. You can't tell me that Canada has not benefited from not only NAFTA, but all the other free trade agreements we are part of. Don't forget, we are an exporting nation.

Trumps entire point, which you seem not to understand, is that free trade (at least when done badly; "stupid" trade) is bad for America. Free trade incentivizes corporations to pick the cheapest locations for manufacturing. They pick China, Vietnam, South Korea, Mexico, etc. Bye bye American jobs. Bye bye American wealth. How do you think China got so wealthy and powerful over the past few decades? America transferred all their wealth over there in exchange for little trinkets.

NAFTA ensures that Canada remains an exporting nation because it's too expensive to manufacture stuff here. I don't know if that's something we should be proud of.

It's easy for you to say that Trump knows little about trade or the economy, but he has a Bachelors of Economics from a prestigious school and he's successfully created a business empire (regardless of how much he inherited). What have you done? BTW, presidents don't need to know or do everything themselves.

Originally Posted by avb3

Yes, he knows how to brand himself. Running the USA is not a game show though.

Maybe it will become one. :-) If it gets the public involved in politics as they're supposed to be ("democracy"), mightn't it be a good thing?

Originally Posted by avb3

Why won't he release his tax records? Saying they are subject to an audit is not a reason, it is an excuse.

He is under no obligation to release his tax records. His opponents are grasping at straws here: "oh, maybe there will be something bad in his tax records! why won't he release them?!"

There are plenty who side with Trump on not releasing them under audit. This article cites many:
http://lawnewz.com/politics/donald-t...being-audited/

Originally Posted by avb3

Huh?

America is being swept by a radical left wing. Look at violent movements like Black Lives Matter. Look at how freedom of speech is being attacked on University campuses. Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich all blamed Trump for the violent protesters trying to interrupt his 1st amendment rights. They aren't going to stand up to them.

Originally Posted by avb3

In fact, his comments about how he would increase torture on suspected terrorists was loudly denounced by retired Chiefs of Staff, saying that the Armed Forces would refuse such an order, as it would be illegal and considered a war crime. That is THEIR Constitutional requirement. The same goes for killing family members of suspects. Trump has backed off a bit by not repeating it, but has not withdrawn it.

That has nothing to do with the Establishment, but the fact that the senior military leadership are professionals, and spend years of not only training, but education on these issues. They are not knee jerk, thankfully.

That was so rich when I saw the NSA director who was responsible for spying on Americans (unconstitutional) come out and say the military wouldn't follow his orders because they were unconstitutional. Hah! These people are against Trump for a different reason than they purport. Not because they are little angels and he's the devil, but more like the other way around.

I happen to think, and I think many Americans agree, that Trump has a good point: it's stupid to tie one hand behind our back and then get in the boxing ring with ISIS. Hopefully he can change whatever rules are necessary to make it possible for us to defeat them.

Or just break the law and do it. America has a long track record of breaking laws and there's nobody who will punish them.

Originally Posted by avb3

Horse pucky. Putin is a dangerous man, and with Russia's huge internal problem, does what every despot does, is create enemies outside.

You buy the propaganda hook, line, and sinker. Putin is not dangerous to you and I. He's only dangerous to certain elites who want him to bow down to them and he refuses to.

[Matt L.]

Originally Posted by Bergerboy

I dont think Hillary is a good option for the oil and gas folks up here.

Or if you happen to like shooting. Or being male.

[Jpl]

Originally Posted by Sneeze

Don't sweat it, your rainbow riding pink unicorn will have no trouble jumping over the wall Trump wants to build between the US and Mexico.

Hook a carriage made of candy to him/her and you and Kathleen Wynne can bring them all here to tell them about LGBTQ rights and the evils of baby Jesus.

Hahahahahaaaa!
Thank you. I feel much better now knowing that I was right. The amazing part is you honestly believe your fear and ignorance. Did your dad share your beliefs too? I really want to know.

Also, unicorns aren't real. You can wish all you want, but like Trump it'll never happen.

[Jpl]

Originally Posted by Bergerboy

I dont think Hillary is a good option for the oil and gas folks up here.

She definitely is NOT a fan of our oil and gas...or Monica Lewinsky

[RavYak]

Originally Posted by happy5

]Secondly, Trump pulls most of the independents and many moderate Democrats (eg. Jim Webb, who started off as a Democrat candidate said he'd support Trump over Hillary). Keep in mind that the Democrats are split 50/50 as well, and most Bernie supporters tend to loathe Hillary (Bernie is the anti-establishment offering on their side). Many of them will likely end up voting for Trump, too. All of these Trump supporters will be lost to the Republican party if they cheat Trump out of the nomination. He is their best shot at beating Hillary.

The greater majority of Sanders voters want far less to do with Trump then they do Hillary. A lot of people have issues with Hillary but overall most of those people are willing to overlook those issues compared to the major issues Trump brings to the table, there are only a select few that would vote for Trump over Hillary and that is just because of their own personal bias' against Hillary.

The polls actually disagree with you regarding the chances of beating Hillary as well now. Trump closed the distance in those polls and came out top on a few of them but she has been steadily pulling ahead lately as many US voters have been very disappointed with the way the Trump's campaign has gone lately. Right now Hillary beats trump on average by 6% while all the other republicans beat her with Kasich having the highest chance and Rubio second highest with Cruz just about breaking even.

Sanders on the other hand beats all of the republican members including beating Trump and Cruz by double or near double digits...

Here is the polls if you don't believe me.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...tial_race.html

[Sneeze]

Originally Posted by Jpl

Also, unicorns aren't real.

Really?

Yup... Insult everybody who thinks differently then you - and they are the bigots? I love lefty logic. Listen to yourself, in two posts you have managed to insult and stereotype a huge amount of people and also attempted to insult people raised as Albertans AND my family/upbringing.

You are awesome. Textbook lefty. Pretty sure a mirror will be all you need to see the biggest bigot around.

[Jpl]

Originally Posted by Sneeze

Really?

Yup... Insult everybody who thinks differently then you - and they are the bigots? I love lefty logic. Listen to yourself, in two posts you have managed to insult and stereotype a huge amount of people and also attempted to insult people raised as Albertans AND my family/upbringing.

You are awesome. Textbook lefty. Pretty sure a mirror will be all you need to see the biggest bigot around.

Shocker. I'm not left wing. Just a human and a conservative, have never voted otherwise. And unlike the righty tighty with your all or nothing view point...at no point did I mention anything about Albertans just you, but see again that's just your perception leading you off into a fit which the righty tighty love to view things from.

If you don't think like us you're against us, rub the one sidedness out of your eyes and relax that nerve of yours I hit. Take off your my way or the highway glasses and enjoy the discourse. Don't be so touchy and live the freedom you have because of this wonderful country and all it offers you, including the hate The Trumpeters have, and you seem to be exhibiting . But hey, if Donald wins I'll help you pack your bags if you'd like. I'm sure they'll have plenty of room.

[avb3]

Originally Posted by happy5

Kasich is pro-TPP, pro common core - two examples of things that are part of the globalist agenda but will be bad for America.

He also loses any respect he earned from me here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq9Sm_gX49o

I've heard worse things about him, but I haven't checked their veracity so I won't repeat. He's a minor player.

Except for one thing. He is the only candidate left who actually ran a government. One who actually made real decisions. One who had to deal with both sides of the legislature. One who had unexpected emergencies crop up, and had to address those.

Successful presidents (regardless of their political convictions), know how to deal with legislatures. The only two failed presidents in recent memory who did not and could not where Carter and Obama. Who knows who Carter couldn't as he was a governor, but Obama sure as heck never ran anything before being elected. Clinton on the other hand could even work with Gingrich, and Dubya often had a Democratic House or Senate he needed to work with, and did.

Being a golf course and real estate developer hardly qualifies Trump to know how to get legislation through. Kasich knows how to do that on the Republican side, and Hillary on that other side.

I highly doubt that. I think Trump will win. First of all, there will be no "rebound in 4 years" if she promotes 3-5 Supreme Court justices and brings in 10+ million new Democrat voters. American conservativism will be officially dead.

There is no indication that 3-5 of the SCOTUS judges will retire in that time frame. American conservatism will be dead only if it gets unrealistic, which is the cohort that Trump is appealing to. Ronald Reagan could not get elected with this bunch today.

Secondly, Trump pulls most of the independents and many moderate Democrats (eg. Jim Webb, who started off as a Democrat candidate said he'd support Trump over Hillary). Keep in mind that the Democrats are split 50/50 as well, and most Bernie supporters tend to loathe Hillary (Bernie is the anti-establishment offering on their side). Many of them will likely end up voting for Trump, too. All of these Trump supporters will be lost to the Republican party if they cheat Trump out of the nomination. He is their best shot at beating Hillary.

We will just have to disagree on this one. If Trump gets the nomination, I personally know many live long Republicans who will either stay home, or hold their nose and vote Hillary. These are conservative people, proud Americans, some of them retired LEO and military. These are not RINOs in any manner, but people who are patriots concerned about their country. They see their party being destroyed right now with the cancer that Trump promotes. I would feel the same if I could vote down here.

Of course the GOPe probably like Hillary and prefer her to Trump because she's going to implement the globalist agenda... I mean because she's not a dangerous neo-Nazi like he is. ;-)

Globalist agenda? Is that something the Illuminati are spreading? Or is it the Bilderberg group? Or those darn Freemasons?

If anything that the mainstream media refuses to report on is a "conspiracy theory", then I guess so. But it's pretty well factual that the unemployment numbers are "doctored" - millions of people are considered out of the workforce who shouldn't be and the biggest gains in employment have been service jobs and part time jobs. Obama's recovery is an illusion. Shrinking Middle Class and declining Middle Class wages and increasing wealth disparity are reality.

Really?

I've been coming down here for the past 4 years. When I bought my place, they were still in the throes of the Great Recession, foreclosures galore, and many frustrated people with no employment.

Now?

The place is booming. Real estate values have recovered very nicely, thank you very much. Employment is up to the point where some places are starting to offer incentives to get employees to stay, or recruit friends/family. It's tough to get a nice apartment rental, especially in the better areas of St. Petersburg or Tampa.

You may not believe numbers, but the reality is that the methods of collecting them are no different now as opposed to during the recession. Best private numbers come from ADP. http://www.adpemploymentreport.com/

Don't even try and tell us ADP is skewing their results. Not one index is anything but a large increase. Fact, not fiction or conspiracy. And not the government.

Trumps entire point, which you seem not to understand, is that free trade (at least when done badly; "stupid" trade) is bad for America. Free trade incentivizes corporations to pick the cheapest locations for manufacturing. They pick China, Vietnam, South Korea, Mexico, etc. Bye bye American jobs. Bye bye American wealth. How do you think China got so wealthy and powerful over the past few decades? America transferred all their wealth over there in exchange for little trinkets.

Yes, the same trinkets sold under the Trump brand which is imported from Mexico, China, Bangladesh and Vietnam.

NAFTA ensures that Canada remains an exporting nation because it's too expensive to manufacture stuff here. I don't know if that's something we should be proud of.

It's easy for you to say that Trump knows little about trade or the economy, but he has a Bachelors of Economics from a prestigious school and he's successfully created a business empire (regardless of how much he inherited). What have you done? BTW, presidents don't need to know or do everything themselves.

Tell Germany how horrible it is to be an exporting nation. They've done rather well in the past 70 years with that strategy.

He is under no obligation to release his tax records. His opponents are grasping at straws here: "oh, maybe there will be something bad in his tax records! why won't he release them?!"

There are plenty who side with Trump on not releasing them under audit. This article cites many:
http://lawnewz.com/politics/donald-t...being-audited/

Funny everyone else has released them. Legally does he have to? No. Morally? What is he hiding?

America is being swept by a radical left wing. Look at violent movements like Black Lives Matter. Look at how freedom of speech is being attacked on University campuses. Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich all blamed Trump for the violent protesters trying to interrupt his 1st amendment rights. They aren't going to stand up to them.

BLM is not a violent movement. 1st amendment rights applies to everyone, not just Trump. Do you know how he gets around it? He make his rallies 'private', and as such, the 1st amendment does not apply. I'd like to see what would happen in Canada if a politician tried that... he would be totally and rightfully be destroyed by public opinion. The best politicians, and I am thinking of a Ralph Klein, knew exactly how to deal with hecklers, and did it well. He didn't play the bully that Trump does.

At the rally I was that, we were reminded numerous times that is was a private event, and protesters would be removed.

That was so rich when I saw the NSA director who was responsible for spying on Americans (unconstitutional) come out and say the military wouldn't follow his orders because they were unconstitutional. Hah! These people are against Trump for a different reason than they purport. Not because they are little angels and he's the devil, but more like the other way around.

I think you need to understand the US Constitution a bit better, the impact of treaties, and international law. The Nuremberg Trials were held for a reason.

I happen to think, and I think many Americans agree, that Trump has a good point: it's stupid to tie one hand behind our back and then get in the boxing ring with ISIS. Hopefully he can change whatever rules are necessary to make it possible for us to defeat them.

Or just break the law and do it. America has a long track record of breaking laws and there's nobody who will punish them.

Without invoking Godwin's law, I think many would suggest, "I was just following orders" is not an acceptable excuse.

You buy the propaganda hook, line, and sinker. Putin is not dangerous to you and I. He's only dangerous to certain elites who want him to bow down to them and he refuses to.

You may want to read some books about Putin. I would recommend this one:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Man-Withou.../dp/1594486514

It's available at the library; my librarian in my small little village in central Alberta recommended it to me. The man is more than dangerous.

[raab]

Interesting short video. Hope this helps some of our more conservative minded voters realize who were really fighting. This fight isn't against blacks, muslims, latinos, or any other demographic besides the top 1%. If we don't stop them now our kids and there's kids will be nothing more then slaves who can't get ahead. Want to make America and Canada for that matter great again stop the flow of money to the top. I believe over 50% of new wealth created in the States go to the top 1/10th of 1%. And we wonder why the middle class is shrinking...

http://usuncut.com/politics/tim-wise-donald-trump/

[RavYak]

Those hats are awesome lol. They pretty much sum up his campaign...

[kayaker]

Trump has lost money. His wealth comes from his inheritance and family largesse despite his rhetoric around being a shrewd, 'self-made' businessman. He has had a huge financial buffer his whole life so his risk taking has come easy. A number of analysts have pointed out that investments in secure index funds would have financially outperformed his self-acclaimed business acumen.

The best was a statement along the lines that 'if he had invested his inheritance in a fund the tracked the S&P 500 and then spent his life finger painting he would be worth more than he is now'.

He's a trust fund kid who has conned naïve people with flashing lights and hubris.

I don't think that running a country is akin to running a business.