Boycott Loblaws?

[Grizzly Adams1]

Champagne seems to think the answer is to invite foreign companies in, ie. American.

[6.5 shooter]

I think I will be shopping at Loblaws just to Pess off a Lieberal.

[Grizzly Adams1]

Originally Posted by 6.5 shooter

I think I will be shopping at Loblaws just to Pess off a Lieberal.

If I see one of those steal from Loblaws signs, it will come down.

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1

Champagne seems to think the answer is to invite foreign companies in, ie. American.

If American companies thought they could make money here they would be here. Stupid socialists.

[32-40win]

Been a good number of stores closing up completely in places around the US due to theft, some are replacing self serve tills with people, some are moving stores into a building that can be "policed" more easily. Folks in those areas, for the most part, have nobody to blame but themselves for the ones closing up altogether. Gangs have even organized to walk in and take what they want, it's like looting during a riot, without the riot.

[Grizzly Adams1]

Originally Posted by 32-40win

Been a good number of stores closing up completely in places around the US due to theft, some are replacing self serve tills with people, some are moving stores into a building that can be "policed" more easily. Folks in those areas, for the most part, have nobody to blame but themselves for the ones closing up altogether. Gangs have even organized to walk in and take what they want, it's like looting during a riot, without the riot.

They Liberals call that a Food desert and can't understand why it happens.

[Sporty]

Blaming solely the Government and the Liberals absolves these grocery giants of responsibility. Among the five major retailers dominating 78% of the market, Loblaws holds the largest share at 28%. Despite Walmart's smaller 8% market share, Loblaws often enjoys cheaper pricing from distributors, yet Walmart frequently offers better pricing.

There are regional differences as well. My local Save On and Walmart are typically cheaper than Superstore.

The same can of Tuna sold at Superstore in Western Canada is $3.99, Toronto Loblaws, $4.29

Walmart is $3.97, country wide.

Before anyone jumps to conclusions and labels me a Liberal, let me clarify: I'm not. I just can't shake the feeling that major grocery chains might be engaging in some price gouging. It seems overly optimistic to believe otherwise, especially considering their history of involvement in questionable activities like price fixing through collusion. If folks are going to boycott, big deal, it's really no different than shopping around. I'm sure Galen's bottom line won't be affected.

[Trochu]

Originally Posted by Sporty

Blaming solely the Government and the Liberals absolves these grocery giants of responsibility. Among the five major retailers dominating 78% of the market, Loblaws holds the largest share at 28%. Despite Walmart's smaller 8% market share, Loblaws often enjoys cheaper pricing from distributors, yet Walmart frequently offers better pricing.

There are regional differences as well. My local Save On and Walmart are typically cheaper than Superstore.

The same can of Tuna sold at Superstore in Western Canada is $3.99, Toronto Loblaws, $4.29

Walmart is $3.97, country wide.

Before anyone jumps to conclusions and labels me a Liberal, let me clarify: I'm not. I just can't shake the feeling that major grocery chains might be engaging in some price gouging. It seems overly optimistic to believe otherwise, especially considering their history of involvement in questionable activities like price fixing through collusion. If folks are going to boycott, big deal, it's really no different than shopping around. I'm sure Galen's bottom line won't be affected.

I personally don't care if they charge fourteen hundred eight thousand dollars for a can of Tuna. They aren't making us buy it, just shop at Walmart/Superstore/Costco if it's cheaper. Then, when nobody buys Tuna from them anymore, they'll lower their price.

It's like at auctions, I routinely see used stuff go for more than new. Do we start villlifying auction houses because they're "greedy" and making too much money or do we slap the two knuckleheads paying more than new upside the head because they're stupid?

[traderal]

Originally Posted by Trochu

I personally don't care if they charge fourteen hundred eight thousand dollars for a can of Tuna. They aren't making us buy it, just shop at Walmart/Superstore/Costco if it's cheaper. Then, when nobody buys Tuna from them anymore, they'll lower their price.

It's like at auctions, I routinely see used stuff go for more than new. Do we start villlifying auction houses because they're "greedy" and making too much money or do we slap the two knuckleheads paying more than new upside the head because they're stupid?

Now that made me laugh. As far as the Tuna example I'm finding that the bean counters at head office just remove the item from stores if not enough are sold, our local rural Walmart is like shopping in Russia for its continuing lack of selection. The auction reference is right on as I can now watch the online ones now without going to them to be disappointed, can't believe how stupid people are, and that's before they add on the fees and taxes.

[Fradaburidi]

Originally Posted by Sporty

My local Save On and Walmart are typically cheaper than Superstore.

I'm having a hard time trying to believe that Save On is cheaper than anything else.

I personally call them Save On ****, and when I see a Save On in the name (i.e. Save On Shoes) I know to stay away.

Walmart used to be cheap but that's not the case anymore and when it comes to food doesn't compare to Superstore.

There's a lot of lack of competition in Canada not only in the groceries sector. Take for instance the cell phone companies. No real competition.

When it comes to stupidity the competition is fierce.

[Sporty]

Originally Posted by Fradaburidi

I'm having a hard time trying to believe that Save On is cheaper than anything else.

I personally call them Save On ****, and when I see a Save On in the name (i.e. Save On Shoes) I know to stay away.

Walmart used to be cheap but that's not the case anymore and when it comes to food doesn't compare to Superstore.

There's a lot of lack of competition in Canada not only in the groceries sector. Take for instance the cell phone companies. No real competition.

When it comes to stupidity the competition is fierce.

Regional differences in pricing. My town only has 2 stores, Superstore is 30 clicks away so our Save On is typically cheaper for the products I normally buy than Superstore is. Save On also doesn't pull a fast one with the 2 for pricing like SS does. If it's 2 for $5, then 1 is only $2.50 whereas Superstore's 2 for $5 or $2.89 for 1 is bogus, IMO.

Originally Posted by Trochu

I personally don't care if they charge fourteen hundred eight thousand dollars for a can of Tuna. They aren't making us buy it, just shop at Walmart/Superstore/Costco if it's cheaper. Then, when nobody buys Tuna from them anymore, they'll lower their price.

It's like at auctions, I routinely see used stuff go for more than new. Do we start villlifying auction houses because they're "greedy" and making too much money or do we slap the two knuckleheads paying more than new upside the head because they're stupid?

Indeed, there's no compulsion for anyone to purchase from Loblaws; if individuals opt to boycott, it's simply exercising free enterprise. It strikes me as amusing how Loblaws is depicted as a victim in this scenario.

[-JR-]

I happened to drive by Super Store in Edmonton on 137 ave May 8 around 2 pm and the parking lot was full of cars !
Looks like no one got the memo .

[dmcbride]

What you'd save if Ottawa forced Loblaw Companies to become a non-profit
About $3 a week, give or take


https://nationalpost.com/opinion/wha...e-a-non-profit

[walking buffalo]

Originally Posted by dmcbride

What you'd save if Ottawa forced Loblaw Companies to become a non-profit
About $3 a week, give or take


https://nationalpost.com/opinion/wha...e-a-non-profit

Let's price shop.

New cash giveaway by the Liberals is coming to light.

$8 BILLION Net Zero Accelerator Slush Fund
A program to give taxpayer cash to big business in the name of Climate Change, Carbon Reduction, that has NO requirement for recipients to do anything....

That comes to $3.85 a week for Every man, woman, and child (41 million)....

[urban rednek]

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

Let's price shop.

New cash giveaway by the Liberals is coming to light.

$8 BILLION Net Zero Accelerator Slush Fund
A program to give taxpayer cash to big business in the name of Climate Change, Carbon Reduction, that has NO requirement for recipients to do anything....

That comes to $3.85 a week for Every man, woman, and child (41 million)....

Not entirely correct. Hundreds of millions of those dollars will make their way back into Lieberal war chests. They learned from multiple previous thefts that they can do this with impunity.
The cult of Lieberal supporters are deaf, dumb, and blind when it comes to Lieberal corruption and theft of taxpayer funds.

[HyperMOA]

Originally Posted by Sporty

It strikes me as amusing how Loblaws is depicted as a victim in this scenario.

No, not a victim. Just anyone with some sense can see that the margins are tight. Show me another industry with margins as tight. Then to vilify them could make them start closing shop; then what? 6 more stores won’t pop up to replace them making less money; I will assure you of that. I think its crazy people are focused on the slim profirs of their grocers when every other aspect of their life has increased as much or more with much larger profits.

[Fradaburidi]

The boycott sounds more NDP than Liberal. That NDP mother lover is the one that screams about corporate greed and grocers' profits.

People are angry. If you manage to divert the anger on the grocers, so much better.

A lot of people don't believe in anything else but the government. They can't accept the government is wrong because then there will be nothing for them to believe in.

[dmcbride]

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/poi...for-competitor

FIRST READING: Poilievre accuses Singh of picking on Loblaw stores because brother works for competitor

Gurratan Singh work for a PR firm who lobbies for Metro, a grocery chain with far higher profit margins than Loblaw stores

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre gave voice to a popular internet critique this week, when he accused Jagmeet Singh of obsessively picking on Loblaw-affiliated grocers solely because the NDP leader’s brother works for their competitor.

During question period on Wednesday, Singh issued a routine accusation that the Trudeau government and the Conservatives were in the pocket of grocers like “Loblaw and Costco.” It’s the fourth time in just the last month that Singh mentioned Loblaw Companies Ltd. and its subsidiaries in the House of Commons — always in connection with the term “corporate greed” and some version of the expression “rip off” or “gouge.”

To this, Poilievre rose to assert that the NDP leader had raised the question because his brother “is a lobbyist for Metro” — the chief competitor to Loblaw Companies Ltd.

“Would the prime minister support an investigation into whether or not the NDP leader’s … brother has been unduly influencing the leader of the NDP?” he said.

The brother in question is Gurratan Singh, a former NDP MPP in the Ontario legislature until he lost his Brampton seat to the Progressive Conservatives in 2022.

He now works as a vice-president at the Toronto-based PR agency Crestview Strategy. In a February analysis of Canadian grocery lobbyists, National Post’s Chris Selley identified two Crestview executives who had contracts as Metro lobbyists.

In the last calendar year, Crestview consultant Alexander Byrne-Krzycki has lobbied the federal government on behalf of Metro Inc. three times, according to the federal lobbyist registry.

The Gurratan Singh-Loblaw connection has been bouncing around social media for several weeks now, but was prominently noted in a recent column by former NDP executive Ryan Painter.

Writing for the Hub, Painter detailed his own alienation from the party, saying it had embraced “virulently toxic wedge politics.”

“It is worth noting that Singh’s brother, Gurratan Singh, former Ontario NDP MPP, works for a firm that lobbies for Loblaws competitor Metro,” he wrote as an aside in the piece.

In Singh’s many parliamentary and social media attacks against “corporate greed” in the grocery sector, he has indeed failed to mention Metro Inc., despite slamming virtually everyone else in the retail sector, including Walmart, Costco and even Canadian Tire.

This is despite the fact that Metro has far higher profit margins than Loblaw. In the first quarter of 2024, Metro brought in profits of $228.5 million on sales of $4.9 billion — a profit margin of 4.6 per cent in an industry that typically averages between one and three per cent.

In the exact same period, Loblaw Companies Ltd. brought in $459 million of profits on revenue of $13.6 billion — a profit margin of 3.4 per cent.

If the Tories are suddenly accusing the NDP of being beholden to grocery lobbyists, it’s merely the turnabout of a charge that the NDP has been levelling at both the Conservatives and the Liberals for months.

In March, Singh accused the Tories of voting against National School Food Program because “Pierre Poilievre’s top adviser is a Loblaw lobbyist.”

The adviser is longtime Conservative strategist Jenni Byrne, whose company Jenni Byrne + Associates has had six employees lobby in Ontario for Loblaw Companies Limited — although Byrne herself has not taken up contracts with the grocer.

On Wednesday, Singh did not respond to Poilievre’s House of Commons accusation that he was soft on Metro because of his brother, given that the Conservative leader’s question was technically aimed at the prime minister

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, meanwhile, merely framed the accusation as being evidence that “all the stories out about lobbyists’ connections with the leader of the Opposition are actually hurting the leader of the Opposition, which is why he is asking the question on the NDP.”

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[walking buffalo]

A scathing report by the CBC on the Liberals' economic disaster.
I don't think the CBC even realizes how bad this report reflects on the Liberals.


Why are we spending less on groceries when they cost more?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn7u9oQCTvs

According to Statscan, the economy for the average Canadian is SO BAD that despite the increase in grocery prices, Canadians are spending about 30% LESS per month on groceries in 2024 when compared to 2020.

Monthly Average expenditure for groceries
2020 - $ 335
2024 - $245

Canadians can no longer afford to feed themselves to meet the basic nutritional guideline for a healthy life.

You can have a home or eat well, but not both.
Be Happy.

[-JR-]

I have to be reading that wrong ,that the average house hold only spend $245 a month on food !
I could see maybe per person and never buying steaks .

[walking buffalo]

Originally Posted by -JR-

I have to be reading that wrong ,that the average house hold only spend $245 a month on food !
I could see maybe per person and never buying steaks .

Yes, as I wrote, this is per person.
Numbers are from StatsCan.


Canadians are Not buying steaks, or fresh meat, cheese, fruit...
People are turning to cheaper processed junk food in order to survive financially.
Canadians are now on average, officially malnourished, according to StatsCan.

Of course this will be very expensive down the road when the eventual increase in health care costs have to be reckoned with.
Or simply ignored as people die earlier if the NDP/Liberal way continues....

[Fradaburidi]

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

Monthly Average expenditure for groceries
2020 - $ 335
2024 - $245

If one eats 2 steaks and I don't eat any, on average we both ate one steak.

[walking buffalo]

Originally Posted by Fradaburidi

If one eats 2 steaks and I don't eat any, on average we both ate one steak.

Probably your most intelligent post yet.

Does this mean that on average, vegetarians eat steaks too?

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Though convoluted, this brings up a point not covered in the CBC video.

Has the massive increase in Food Bank patronage effected a lowering of the StatsCan average grocery expenditure?

Millions are "spending" less on groceries in 2024 compared to in 2020, because they are using Food Banks.

Perhaps the NDP/Liberal way is to lower individual grocery expenditures even lower.
More Canadians relying on Food Banks would mean Canadians will spend even less on food thanks to this wonderful coalition government....

[59whiskers]

We grow a garden vegetables/berries and can/ freeze this produce every year saving hundreds of dollars. Most home owners/renters are too lazy to put in the effort to grow a small garden. I would bet more Pot is grown by these Loblaws protestors.

[bat119]

Protest high prices by shopping at stores with higher prices ?

I think I'm missing something

[W921]

Two of us travel an hour one way to buy $1200 a month at Walmart or Costco because if we bought local it would be more than double.
There is a local grocery store that everyone complains about. Stuff costs way over double than Walmart and even with the price of fuel I won't shop there. But lot of single pensioners maybe nervous about driving in big city still do business there. I can't imagine why they have to charge what they do because they are not paying out high wages to employees. Place could burn to ground for all I care.

[jungleboy]

Originally Posted by W921

Two of us travel an hour one way to buy $1200 a month at Walmart or Costco because if we bought local it would be more than double.
There is a local grocery store that everyone complains about. Stuff costs way over double than Walmart and even with the price of fuel I won't shop there. But lot of single pensioners maybe nervous about driving in big city still do business there. I can't imagine why they have to charge what they do because they are not paying out high wages to employees. Place could burn to ground for all I care.

If it’s a small country store ,they are probably stocking their store through Walmart and Costco and trying to make a living from the up charge

[W921]

Originally Posted by jungleboy

If it’s a small country store ,they are probably stocking their store through Walmart and Costco and trying to make a living from the up charge

Its a fairly big Sobeys store but has a monopoly in town. Its definitely no Ma and Pa country store.