Something I did for the firearms community/tax payer...I hope you benefit from it

[altaberg]

Thanks Randy,

you are our hero,

next Edmonton Meet 'n Greet your tab is on me.

[pgavey]

I had a GOOGLE ALERT today with your survey The message is getting out.
Thank you. Phil

[pgavey]

Had a GOOGLE ALERT with your survey. The message is getting out. Thank you. Phil.

[DarkAisling]

Awesome

You're "all that and a bag of chips" good sir!

[pitw]

That was awesome Sir. I just heard it on CHED at noon and it played well. It could be the difference maker for a fact. If'n your ever out this way give me a call and I'll hook you up with a coffee or coyote.

[Chris K]

Thanks Randy! This is a positive step in the right direction, and even though it is a small sample of officers and "not scientific" (as it stated on the evening news), it probably is a fairly accurate representation of the general concensus of officers, and I applaud you on asking these questions and getting the answers to the public. Good job on the interview for the evening news!

Chris K

[AxeMan]

Randy for Chief. Well maybe not. Thanks for the great effort and bringing the truth of the matter into the media spot light, Randy. Too bad our current chief can't see to support this.

Your beer is on me at our next get together.

[Fishin' Fool]

http://www.edmontonsun.com/news/edmo.../15092361.html

[plinker]

Randy, ya got a big set on ya, talking your opinion about this out loud like that with the career you have. My guess is that you are one of the few officers around that still does it old school! Thank you for having the guts to stand up and say the right thing out loud.

[Kanonfodder]

Randy far be it from me to toss out advice but thats not stopping me. Since all the police chiefs are in town why not send out ANOTHER Press Release, but this time explaining how the numbers get `cooked`when the talking heads discuss how many `hits` the database gets...the average person has no idea that if granny calls 911 to report a loud noise she gets her addy searched for registered weapons thus earning a valueable hit for the counters....( hope I paraphrased that right ) Just a thought from the sidelines

[BrownBear416]

Well done Randy...

The world needs more people like you thats for sure...

[mtylerb]

I have a question for you Randy,

What are the opinions of Boyd from most of the EPS officers? You can PM me the answer if you don't want it posted publicly. This quote from the Edmonton Sun concerns me:

Boyd says he supports the gun registry and the CACP says firearm-related deaths decreased by 43% between 1991 and 2005 because of the registry.

I wasn't really paying attention last time C-391 was in the media and thought the major AB police chiefs all supported removing the registry. Apparently I was wrong.

[skywrench]

This is awesome Randy, the work you've done here is invaluable, well done! I've said this already in CGN but I'll say it again - thank you sir.

[pdfish]

There's not much to add after everyone's comments, just a "well done sir, you've made this community proud!"

[huntinstuff]

I am booked for the Roy Green / Charles Adler show on 630 ched and innews880 for Tuesday......

Thanks for all the support. Just please keep forwarding this to any and all little papers, etc that you know of.

I REALLY appreciate all that you guys and gals have done ......for me, for yourselves, and for the general Canadian out there who doesn't have all the facts.....

I appreciate each and every one of you.

Randy

[hal53]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

I am booked for the Roy Green / Charles Adler show on 630 ched and innews880 for Tuesday......

Thanks for all the support. Just please keep forwarding this to any and all little papers, etc that you know of.

I REALLY appreciate all that you guys and gals have done ......for me, for yourselves, and for the general Canadian out there who doesn't have all the facts.....

I appreciate each and every one of you.

Randy

Holy Moly!!!..Good for you!!!..remember all us little people when you get more famous !!! Seriously no words can express the appreciation for your groundwork on this...thanks again!!!
Hal

[ishootbambi]

its easy for most people to bellyache and complain about the things that oughta be done. thankfully, there are some people out there willing to stand up and do it. this one reaches out much farther than this forum, and by the time the dust settles, the vast majority of Canadians should be saying thank you for this.

so here's mine.......Thank you Constable Kuntz.

dale allen

[Stop Staring at my Rack]

Originally Posted by hal53

Holy Moly!!!..Good for you!!!..remember all us little people when you get more famous !!! Seriously no words can express the appreciation for your groundwork on this...thanks again!!!
Hal

x a million!
THANK YOU!

[huntinstuff]

FYI

Tonite CTV edited a comment I made in response to Chief BOYD who stated

"Between 1991 and 2005, the murder rate dropped 43% due to the firearms registry"

I responded to that by stating " I heard a statistic today that the registry was responsible for a 43% reduction in murder between 1991 and 2005. Pretty good for a program that didn't even come into effect until 2003."

You wont hear that one in the media. ...........unless I spout it off on the Charles Adler show tuesday

[pitw]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

FYI
You wont hear that one in the media. ...........unless I spout it off on the Charles Adler show tuesday

Give 'em [L] huntinstuff . If'n you get canned I got a job for you 3 months of the year if you need it.

[deerhuntercentral]

Randy, thanks for the effort. Nice to see people actually making a difference. Made me recall a letter I wrote to the Edmonton Sun years ago, which they published, about Bob Wasylyshens poor comments on firearms in general there's an archive of it online still.

http://www.canfirearms.ca/archives/t...99/v04n081.txt

Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 10:34:58 -0600
From: awp@datanet.ab.ca
Subject: Letters to Editor

Letters Edmonton Sun 04/09/01

RE: "AK47 clone shocks cops," Aug. 28. The article contains this quote from
police Chief Bob Wasylyshen: "Loose laws lead to dangerous use of firearms
and lead to death and injuries." He said this in reference to the United
States relaxing gun laws. No, sir. Bad people lead to dangerous use of
firearms and lead to deaths and injuries, not loose laws. It is exactly
this sort of statement that fuels the paranoid antigun movement in our
country. Why don't you worry less about gun laws of other countries, stop
blaming them for our problems here and start focusing the power of the
police force to influence our government to start finding real, working
solutions to crime in Canada, not the failed, unrealistic and costly
disaster called Bill C68. I have to scratch my head when I know members of
your force who have absolutely no intention of registering their firearms.
Your comment leads me to believe you really don't think logically before
you speak.

Paul Schmur
Editors Comment
(Our gun registry is flawed, but Canadians don't want Americanstyle gun laws.)

[huntinstuff]

Here is one that didn't make it to the Edmonton Journal

Earlier this week, I worked on a story about the gun registry. We received an interesting news release touting an Edmonton police officer whose informal survey showed that 92 per cent of police officers don’t support the registry, running counter to virtually all official policing organizations in the country.
My interview with the officer was enjoyable: a super friendly cop with lots of policing experience (11 years patrolling + 11 years in criminal investigations) and an opinion on gun registration. He acknowledged other perspectives and offered no conspiracy theories. The only problem was his survey — it more closely resembled an online poll than it did representative data. While working on the story mid-afternoon, I was unable to get a voice adequately countering his perspective. We ultimately decided not to run the story, though I thought it might deserve a place here.
********
Late last spring, Edmonton police Const. Randy Kuntz decided to test a hunch.
Kuntz, a former patrolling officer who now works in criminal investigations at Edmonton’s southwest division, wondered about how many police officers supported gun registration.
Kuntz only expected 200 replied, but gathered 2,631 responses from every province and territory in Canada over a fourteen-month period. Roughly 92 per cent – 2,410 – of respondents responded negatively.
Kuntz admits the results are less than rigorous, but says the results match his policing experience.
“It’s about as unscientific as one can get,” said Kuntz. “But pretty soon it started looking like a lot of guys don’t agree with the system, which is contradictory to what the association of chiefs of police are saying.”
The survey results come in the midst of a political debate over the effectiveness of the long-gun registry. On Wednesday, RCMP Chief Supt. Marty Cheliak, a vocal supporter of the registry, was replaced and placed on leave from the national police force. The move to replace Cheliak has drawn widespread criticism, coming just a few weeks before Parliament is set to debate a Conservative private member’s bill to scrap it.
Cheliak was actually slated to appear in Edmonton on Monday at the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police Conference as one of three presenters on a national firearms strategy. While the session will still take place, Cheliak won’t be there.
The embattled long-gun registry has received overwhelming support from the policing community, including the chiefs of police, the Canadian Police Association, and the Canadian Association of Police Boards. A joint statement by the organizations released in May notes the database costs only $4.1 million to operate and helps police in investigations and court proceedings. The registry was accessed over four million times last year.
For Kuntz, the timing of the survey results is not so much about the politics but about the effectiveness of the registry on the pavement. Kuntz’s beef is that the registry doesn’t account for the actual location of weapons. A registered gun owner, he says, can legally lend his weapon to anyone with a valid license for the firearm.
Kuntz has only accessed the registry once in his entire career, when someone wanted to donate a gun, and worries about young officers might gain a false sense of security from the database.
“As far of the actual use it gets, it’s kind of useless,” said Kuntz. “It’s kind of like the TV channel around Christmas where they show burning logs in the fire.”

__________________

[deerhuntercentral]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

“As far of the actual use it gets, it’s kind of useless,” said Kuntz. “It’s kind of like the TV channel around Christmas where they show burning logs in the fire.”

Nice analogy.

[Heckler]

Thank you Randy!

[noneck180]

Great job Huntinstuff..there was a lot of work involved .. my hats off..

[ganderblaster]

Huntinstuff is the stuff of legends!THANK-YOU!

[huntinstuff]

1240hrs on CBC radio today.......tune in

Just finished 630 CHED for a half hour with Dave Rutherford.

We are getting exposure and some real facts are getting out to the public......maybe this will make a difference

[colt45]

Excellent work Huntinstuff!

[dmckay]

Is there anyway to listen to the broadcast if it's already played? Missed it by minutes...grrr

The politicians are quoting you now Randy...but in a good way!

MEDIA RELEASE
CANDICE HOEPPNER, MP

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Monday, August 23, 2010

VAST MAJORITY OF POLICE CALLING FOR END OF LONG-GUN REGISTRY MP Hoeppner Says Survey Contradicts CACP'S Claim that Police Support Maintaining the Registry

Morden, MB - Candice Hoeppner, Member of Parliament for Portage-Lisgar, responded today to a survey of Canadian police officers on the long-gun registry revealing that the vast majority of police officers are calling for the end of the long-gun registry.

"This survey proves what I have been saying all along - that the CACP and the CPA do not, as they claim, speak for Canadian police officers on this issue," said Candice Hoeppner. "As I have met with police chiefs and front-line officers this past year, I have repeatedly said that police support for maintaining the long-gun registry is far from unanimous; in fact, it seems that the opposite is true - police support to end the registry is overwhelming!"

Edmonton police officer Randy Kuntz's national survey of Canadian police officers revealed that 92 percent of police officers in Canada want Members of Parliament to vote in favour of scrapping the long-gun registry. 2,631 officers responded to the survey in a police magazine asking officers whether they supported the registry as a useful working tool. 2,410 officers responded that the registry is a useless crime fighting tool that did not assist them in the performance of their duties.

"Canadian Police Association President Charles Momy appeared at committee this spring and referred to a survey demonstrating police support for the long-gun registry - a survey that he admitted involved just 400 officers,"
Hoeppner commented. "This new survey involved over 2600 officers and strongly contradicts Mr. Momy's position. It seems obvious that a survey sample of 2600 is far more reliable than a survey of 400."

Hoeppner commented that both the CACP's and CPA's defense of the long-gun registry is based on the notion that police officers use it and want it, while Kuntz's survey shows that simply isn't true.

"Front-line officers - the constables and sergeants in the field - are throwing their support behind Bill C-391, while individuals like Mr. Momy and Chief Blair continue to defend a useless and unreliable gun database,"

Hoeppner continued. "It begs the question: 'Exactly who are they speaking for?'"
"This survey just shows again that it's high time to put an end to the long-gun registry - it has not made Canadians safer, it is not a reliable tool for police, and it does not make sense to continue to pay for it,"
concluded Hoeppner.

In June, the Opposition-dominated Public Safety Committee passed a motion calling for Hoeppner's bill to be defeated. That vote will take place in the House of Commons on September 22nd.