abolition of hunt farms petition

[sh9683]

might i ask whats wrong with hunting farms?

[Jcarter]

Other than everything.

Hunt farms means you can kiss goodbye to access to traditional farmland access. Hunt farms are canned hunts, they trap wildlife that is normally free for their own uses.

Hunt farms can spread disease. Too many animals in too small an area.

Hunt farms are cheating. Any Dixon can walk up to a fence and shoot an animal. Ever heared of fair chase? It's hunting for lazy people who's primary interest is killing not hunting. And it's really lazy.

[Stumpslayer]

Kind of thought there would be more guys signing this petition! Hope more follow and sign up!

[magoonpointboy]

C'mon guys and gals. There is much evidence and little action.

[sunsetrider2011]

Originally Posted by Pudelpointer

66, please read the links Walking Buffalo posted, or watch the Our Wildlife Heritage video on Youtube. Your uncle's "hobby" could result in the decimation of all wild cervids in North America. The issue is disease, and the possible (even probable) transmission to human beings in close daily contact with these animals and their secretions.

If CWD makes the jump from cervids to humans, and if it is found to be contagious as CWD is in cervids, then there WILL BE and all out slaughter of wildlife in North America, in the name of public health.

NO ONE has the RIGHT to endanger all our lives, and populations of wildlife just so they can look at 400" bulls at 5 yards.

Please read / view the links and THINK about it. Then tell us what you think, or ask questions. We will do our best to help you understand the serious risks involved with game farming and the commercialization of wildlife.

This Is interesting, have any one of you sat down with the cwd bioligist in alberta? Probably not,, I have for 2 days he was a guest in my home and an avid hunter. Do you guys actually know the percentage of CWD cases in alberta and where the majority of the cases Are? And what animals it affects? Less than .15% are in the white tail population, i repeat .15 percent, and they would very old mature animals, less than 1% of the mule deer population where supposedly the main focus on cwd is, and in those cases all old mature animals as well, ,, How many cases have cwd been found in hunt farms? Not very darn many ,, so this is a none issue, As far as the freedom of enterprise in Alberta,, each and every individual has a right to earn a living,, if he wants to raise cattle, he raises cattle,, if he wants to raise horses he raises horses,, if you wants to raise jack asses then he raises jack asses,,, its no different than raising deer,elk , bison ect, if you had first hand knowledge of what these farms have to go through to raise and keep their herds healthy ,,, then maybe you would change your tune, these guys work hard to maintain their herds.

So what some of you are saying you would take hard earned dollars out of their pockets, because you feel threatened that you may looses a chance to hunt on some ground you wouldnt get permission on anyways? And 99% if not a 100% of these animals have to be bought, are not trapped, or fenced in from the queens herds, I think there are too many misguided ideals here.

I myself will not begrudge anyone a chance to make a living in anyway he sees fit,,whether its cattle, horses, donkeys, or sheep or any 4 legged creature he chooses to raise, Thats the whole point have having the rights and freedoms we do in this country. I will not support this In anyway, as it goes against my very grain.

[Speckle55]

Sunsetrider.. please inform your self don,t listen to uninformed people.there is lots of study's of the prion disease .. it has many names but the results are the same.. when you get it you will die .. here are some of the names they are as follows

CWD-wild ungulates Deer both, elk, and moose ,and other animal
Scabbies -sheep
Mad Cow -cows
Creutzfelt-jakob disease-humans
in Colorado where it started(latest) the number of ungulates is very low in the area where it first started and they have it in 15 to 25 percent of their herds it has also transfer to moose now 4 in the last couple years

reports have the prion stay alive transmissionable in soil 12 to 16 years

Colorado elk were transfered to Alberta in the 80's and some people down there had issues with them transfering wild animals across borders when they new they were sick herds in area that they came from .
Val Geist Canada's leading Ungulate specialist warn us in Alberta not to get into game ranching(he got death threats from the game ranching people) and don,t bring animals up from the states as the issue was undiscovered .Beth Williams name CWD in her theasus after 10 years of study.and both Alberta and Sask started game ranching and some of the elk that came to Alberta went to South Korea and the rest is history all three now have CWD in their wild ungulate herds.. once it got into herds because it is in all the body and secreations it is very transmissionable and will stay in an area .to say that we understand all the ins and outs would be a lie but years ago my bio said that we did not have to worry about CWD and that mad cow was not a issue in Canada either .both have hit Canada and cost us millions..

sometimes the science does not keep up with what is happening there has been alot of changes in the CWD info ..

leading people are saying that yes it can jump and it has in Europe allready you can see pockets of human related prion in mad cow infected areas
it is like smoking they told us it was fine
the people on the edge say that these prions will jump

Canada Elk to wild deer single fence to wild Elk in sask. to Moose in Colorado
the next three ungulates are sheep/goat/cariboo .. some disease take a bit before they jump.
one of the spots u can get Info is a site called CWD-info.org both Sask and Man and Parks Canada got study in 2003 done to see if animals artifical feeding and baiting and bunching up of wild animals lead to more risk. the answer was yes so they both have policies to stop the bunching and feeding of wild animals and Park Canada has been doing risk accessments on there herds. In alberta we have not been very proactive we have been reactive then listen to uninformed people but we will pay the piper so to say. so you have your opinion just don,t have us hunters pay for your friends experiment in ranching please as it has costs us enough allready
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Food For Thought
Thanks David

[Rocky7]

Originally Posted by Jcarter

Any Dixon can walk up to a fence and shoot an animal. Ever heared of fair chase? It's hunting for lazy people who's primary interest is killing not hunting.

And that's one less Dixon/lazy person I'm going to meet in the bush looking for a wall tent because it's good elk sign.

[sask/alta boy]

Originally Posted by jimbo1

hi guys theres been a few threads of late about hunt farms and everyones feelings so heres the link for the petition to put an end to them
thanks for your help

http://www.PetitionOnline.com/CWD/

Thanks jimbo1 #331 here anything for a buck doesnt make it right on many levels.

the only way that u should cage hunt is NONE, get off ur lazy bums dust off ur boots and walk in the forest to harvest your animal