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The judge that let him out should be held accountable as well.
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08-13-2024, 04:48 PM
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S.S.S.up!
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08-13-2024, 04:50 PM
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I Agree! This is where the system is screwed up!
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The judge that let him out should be held accountable as well.
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08-13-2024, 05:19 PM
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Someone knows where this POS is. Now they need to have the intestinal fortitude to make the call and let the Police know where he is. Too many people are probably afraid to "drop a dime" for fear of retribution by either the POS or friends / family of him.
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His own family could be scared of him. There was a poor mother a few year back and her adult meth son moved back in with her. There was no outside help for her and poor thing went crazy and burned her own house down so meth son would leave. Police charged her with arson and I never heard how she made out.
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08-13-2024, 05:28 PM
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So he was charged with 11 counts in late May, less than three months ago, and he was already back out on the streets? When he had meth and a rifle with the serial scratched off? What the hell is wrong with the justice system in this country?
And before people start playing the race card-this same BS happens with any offender, regardless of race.
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But Gladue does play a huge , in giving them short sentences, and getting them back into society to commit more crimes.
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But Gladue does play a huge , in giving them short sentences, and getting them back into society to commit more crimes.
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I’m partly one of ‘them’ bud. That’s such a straw man argument. The overwhelming number of pedos out there are old white dudes but no one ever thinks to say what the hell is going on there for example. Any race is capable of doing messed up stuff, and the justice system is broken in punishing all of them.
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08-14-2024, 05:46 AM
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I’m partly one of ‘them’ bud. That’s such a straw man argument. The overwhelming number of pedos out there are old white dudes but no one ever thinks to say what the hell is going on there for example. Any race is capable of doing messed up stuff, and the justice system is broken in punishing all of them.
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Do the old white pedo dudes get preferential, reduce sentencing based on racial background when they are convicted, and if so, would getting rid of the preferential sentencing have any effect on repeat offenders?
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08-14-2024, 06:44 AM
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I’m partly one of ‘them’ bud. That’s such a straw man argument. The overwhelming number of pedos out there are old white dudes but no one ever thinks to say what the hell is going on there for example. Any race is capable of doing messed up stuff, and the justice system is broken in punishing all of them.
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The truth is that all races commit crimes, but Gladue results in reduced sentences for the convicted criminals of one specific race. This is no way benefits society, given the rate of repeat offenders in Canada, it only results in some convicted criminals being released earlier, which gives them the opportunity to reoffend sooner. This case involves the murder of one individual, and the attempted murder of another, race should not in any way effect how the suspects are treated by the legal system.
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08-14-2024, 07:02 AM
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The truth is that all races commit crimes, but Gladue results in reduced sentences for the convicted criminals of one specific race. This is no way benefits society, given the rate of repeat offenders in Canada, it only results in some convicted criminals being released earlier, which gives them the opportunity to reoffend sooner. This case involves the murder of one individual, and the attempted murder of another, race should not in any way effect how the suspects are treated by the legal system.
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Gladue reports have to be asked for by the defendant, are rarely used, and are usually not considered when a violent crime is committed. They are there to send an Indigenous person to rehab rather than jail basically in cases where that can be an option. Go look for your boogeyman elsewhere.
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08-14-2024, 07:14 AM
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Gladue reports have to be asked for by the defendant, are rarely used, and are usually not considered when a violent crime is committed. They are there to send an Indigenous person to rehab rather than jail basically in cases where that can be an option. Go look for your boogeyman elsewhere.
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The fact is that Gladue does exist, and that it is racist, and there should be no racism in our legal system. Our legal system is badly broken, it treats all criminals as victims, and the result is that it doesn't protect our society. Rehabilitation is not working, so the only way to protect society, is to remove convicted criminals from society for longer periods or permanently. But of course our legal system doesn't want to do this, because it is admitting that our legal system has failed us.
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08-14-2024, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Dubz337
Gladue reports have to be asked for by the defendant, are rarely used, and are usually not considered when a violent crime is committed. They are there to send an Indigenous person to rehab rather than jail basically in cases where that can be an option. Go look for your boogeyman elsewhere.
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Courts frequently ask defendants if they want to have a Gladue report submitted.
As the infrastructure to write Gladue reports is growing, so are the number of applications and submissions.
Gladue reports have been expanded in scope beyond sentencing and are now to be included in appeals, administrative decisions, application hearings and motions.
The vast majority of cases where Gladue reports are submitted are for violent crimes.
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08-14-2024, 09:02 AM
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Courts frequently ask defendants if they want to have a Gladue report submitted.
As the infrastructure to write Gladue reports is growing, so are the number of applications and submissions.
Gladue reports have been expanded in scope beyond sentencing and are now to be included in appeals, administrative decisions, application hearings and motions.
The vast majority of cases where Gladue reports are submitted are for violent crimes.
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I'm sure you have proof to back up all these things you're stating as fact.
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Gladue reports have to be asked for by the defendant, are rarely used, and are usually not considered when a violent crime is committed. They are there to send an Indigenous person to rehab rather than jail basically in cases where that can be an option. Go look for your boogeyman elsewhere.
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I’m sure you have proof to back up these claims?
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08-14-2024, 09:55 AM
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I’m sure you have proof to back up these claims?
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Exactly, if you ask for proof, you should be willing to provide proof of your own.
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08-14-2024, 11:58 AM
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I'm sure you have proof to back up all these things you're stating as fact.
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Anytime one group gets special treatment or rights it's going to create bad feelings by everyone else. Does not matter which group . Example if red heads from Ontario got special treatment it will cause everyone without red hair and not from Ontario to be kind of ****ed
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08-14-2024, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubz337
So he was charged with 11 counts in late May, less than three months ago, and he was already back out on the streets? When he had meth and a rifle with the serial scratched off? What the hell is wrong with the justice system in this country?
And before people start playing the race card-this same BS happens with any offender, regardless of race.
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But the race card is played automatically in a bail hearing or when police are deciding if they should release someone without bail.
https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/cj-jp/...ion/index.htmlBefore making any bail decision, police and courts must take into account whether the accused person is Indigenous or belongs to a vulnerable group that is overrepresented in the criminal justice system and faces disadvantages in obtaining bail due to systemic discrimination (for example, members of Black and racialized communities). This consideration reflects Supreme Court of Canada decisions about the overrepresentation of certain groups in the criminal justice system, particularly Indigenous persons, who are disproportionately refused bail. Personally I think a judge should have to ask themselves "would I rent this person a spare room and let them live in my house with my family?" If the answer to that question is no, think hard about bail conditions.
When the list of charges includes breaking two firearms prohibitions and breach of probation, they should not get bail. Bail will just be another list of conditions that the accused doesn't care about.
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I’m partly one of ‘them’ bud. That’s such a straw man argument. The overwhelming number of pedos out there are old white dudes but no one ever thinks to say what the hell is going on there for example. Any race is capable of doing messed up stuff, and the justice system is broken in punishing all of them.
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Do you have some stats to back that one up?
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It has been scientifically proven that a 308 round will not leave your property -- they essentially fall dead at the fence line. But a 38 round, when fired from a handgun, will of its own accord leave your property and destroy any small schools nearby.
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The only reason everything has become about race is because that's the way this government likes it. So much so they have enshrined it in law, and made a multi tier 'justice' system based on victim points. Unfortunately society is the real victim.
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maybe
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One article says he’s 28 years old, next one says he’s 22.
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That was his expected life span?
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08-14-2024, 06:36 PM
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I'm sure you have proof to back up all these things you're stating as fact.
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Sure.
https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/...tatations.html
Your turn.
Provide your proof.
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Victims have just become pawns in the justice system.
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Interesting turn of events. Neighbor living 1.5 miles straight east of where the Rockyview truck was dumped had his 5th wheel broken into. He has a nice little private campground mile from his house. Had his quad stolen, and it was found in Didsbury, 50-60 Km away.
After the RCMP lifted the stay 'shelter in place' alert, they assured us the bad guys were no longer in Wheatland County...........but there were some bad guys less than 2 miles away.
I wonder what the statistics/coincidence equation would be that the two incidences are random & unrelated?
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Interesting update. One of the CC camera pics has the guy wearing my neighbor's hoodie. Guess who WAS in my neighbor's place, less than 2 miles from where the County truck was abandoned.
Oh, and well after the 'shelter in place' was lifted because the RCMP were sure the perps were no longer in Wheatland County..........thank God my neighbors were bright enough to not be out & about until late the next day.
And the RCMP have learned what ???? Anyone ever believe there will be a public accounting or even an apology perhaps? What the local Staff Sergeant is saying is despite their fatigue, they're working around the clock to.......??? They are so tone deaf the force will never recover. Ever.
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get your gun and go find the other guy.......should be fairly easy
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Lets just hope when the catch Strawberry it goes down in a gun fight so they don't have to waste anymore time or tax payers money. Scabs like don't deserve to keep reoffending.
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08-25-2024, 03:11 PM
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10 grand reward on his head now. anyone got any idea?
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Ten grand of taxpayers money cause they can't catch him?? After how much has already been spent on round-the-clock investigative work??
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Ten grand of taxpayers money cause they can't catch him?? After how much has already been spent on round-the-clock investigative work??
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So what is wrong with that?
Many around the world have been doing that for decades...centuries...
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10 grand reward on his head now. anyone got any idea?
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Dead or alive?
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Ten grand of taxpayers money cause they can't catch him?? After how much has already been spent on round-the-clock investigative work??
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If it's dead or alive, $10k could save us hundreds of thousands.
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So what is wrong with that?
Many around the world have been doing that for decades...centuries...
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Interesting that they waited two weeks to decide the reward route. Thankfully no one else has been hurt since.
Why wouldn't they just open the reward the next day ?? Pride or arrogance ?? I mean, they know the guy, his contacts.
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Yes sir.
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The only reason everything has become about race is because that's the way this government likes it. So much so they have enshrined it in law, and made a multi tier 'justice' system based on victim points. Unfortunately society is the real victim.
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