7-08 , 308 , 7mm , 30-06 , 300 mag , 325 wsm

[gopher]

Energy the most useless measurement of performance, ever.






Belts to hold pants up and strings attached to mittens…

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by gopher

Energy the most useless measurement of performance, ever.






Belts to hold pants up and strings attached to mittens…

Wannabe Hollywood. That's where I like my advice to come from. Weird.

[wolf308]

What the ^ lmao.

[gopher]

Originally Posted by chuck

Wannabe Hollywood. That's where I like my advice to come from. Weird.

Wannabee Hollywood? Even Goose and Iceman know that energy numbers are useless. Not much weird about it!

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by gopher

Wannabee Hollywood? Even Goose and Iceman know that energy numbers are useless. Not much weird about it!

I'm looking at that stupid picture.

We are talking Elk though. What is your advice regarding big bull Elk?

[gopher]

Originally Posted by chuck

I'm looking at that stupid picture.

We are talking Elk though. What is your advice regarding big bull Elk?

The picture is as stupid as looking at energy numbers, hence the illustration.

My dead elk experiences mostly come from black powder and handgun bullets…

Shoot them where you see them…

Could you please point out for me what wouldn’t work for big elk?

[fish_e_o]

Originally Posted by Robmcleod82

260ai won't penetrate elk either....

28 nosler will only break one shoulder and lodge in the far shoulder

did not result in dead elk... i had to chase it down and cut the bullet out which did result in a dead elk

i'd say a 7mm rem mag is a fine choice

[gopher]

Originally Posted by fish_e_o

28 nosler will only break one shoulder and lodge in the far shoulder

did not result in dead elk... i had to chase it down and cut the bullet out which did result in a dead elk

The autopsy always wins.

[Rio56]

sounds like the 280 rem , 270 win and odd six are favorites... But At 350 yds and a quartering shot I have big reservations with these choices .. they are cartridge's I would put in the "maybe" proper placement and see what happens league... if this was deep bush , steep terrain hunting, hmmmm .. sure a 280 can do if you can see it run for 400 yards after ...

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by Rio56

sounds like the 280 rem , 270 win and odd six are favorites... But At 350 yds and a quartering shot I have big reservations with these choices .. they are cartridge's I would put in the "maybe" proper placement and see what happens league... if this was deep bush , steep terrain hunting, hmmmm .. sure a 280 can do if you can see it run for 400 yards after ...

Lol, if you can't comfortably shoot at 350yds, using a 338-378 isn't going to help.

From the sounds of it, you shouldn't be shooting at 350yds no matter what cartridge you're using.

Keep your shots -200yds and shoot something with little recoil, problem solved.

[Rio56]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

Lol, if you can't comfortably shoot at 350yds, using a 338-378 isn't going to help.

From the sounds of it, you shouldn't be shooting at 350yds no matter what cartridge you're using.

Keep your shots -200yds and shoot something with little recoil, problem solved.

I can't shoot past 80 yards, that's why I was asking for some advise because I wanna extend my range ..are you a long distant elk shooter and what do you use .. any help is appreciated

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by Rio56

I can't shoot past 80 yards.. that's why I was asking for some advise ..are you a long distant elk shooter and what do you use .. any help is appreciated

I'm not a long distance elk shooter, I have killed big game in the 500-600yd range before, but that's as far as I've shot big game.

The point people are trying to make for you here is, it's not so much what cartridge you use, a bad shot at 350yds isn't any better if your using a 30-30 or a 300 magnum. Shot placement followed by bullet construction are more important than which cartridge you're using.

All the cartridges you mentioned are more than capable of killing the largest elk this side of Mexico so long as you have 2 things working for you.

1) You put your bullet where it's supposed to go.
2) you use a bullet with proper construction for your prey.

If you have both of these covered, you won't be chasing a wounded elk. If you are lacking one or two of these things, you could be in for a long day that ends in disappointment.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Rio56

I can't shoot past 80 yards, that's why I was asking for some advise because I wanna extend my range ..are you a long distant elk shooter and what do you use .. any help is appreciated

You need to find a place where you can shoot targets, as far as you would ever take a shot at a game animal. You need to verify the trajectory of your load by actual shooting, rather than depending on ballistic calculations. You also need to learn to estimate wind, if you intend to shot at longer distances.

[lone wolf]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

I use belts t hold up my pants!
Cat

Best answer in the thread so far

[Rio56]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

I'm not a long distance elk shooter, I have killed big game in the 500-600yd range before, but that's as far as I've shot big game.

The point people are trying to make for you here is, it's not so much what cartridge you use, a bad shot at 350yds isn't any better if your using a 30-30 or a 300 magnum. Shot placement followed by bullet construction are more important than which cartridge you're using.

All the cartridges you mentioned are more than capable of killing the largest elk this side of Mexico so long as you have 2 things working for you.

1) You put your bullet where it's supposed to go.
2) you use a bullet with proper construction for your prey.

If you have both of these covered, you won't be chasing a wounded elk. If you are lacking one or two of these things, you could be in for a long day that ends in disappointment.

so bottom line is .. you're comfortable in taking a quartering shot at an elk at 350 yards with a 7-08.. and not worring about chasing or as you would say ..wounding ..capable and proper are two different things .. a 223 is proper .. why not reduce your recoil and go there

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by Rio56

sounds like the 280 rem , 270 win and odd six are favorites... But At 350 yds and a quartering shot I have big reservations with these choices .. they are cartridge's I would put in the "maybe" proper placement and see what happens league... if this was deep bush , steep terrain hunting, hmmmm .. sure a 280 can do if you can see it run for 400 yards after ...

We aren't pretending I promise.

[Rio56]

Originally Posted by chuck

We aren't pretending I promise.

glad you're back with some content ......338 win , moose ? I don't get it

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by Rio56

glad you're back with some content ......338 win , moose ? I don't get it

Get this. I have shot a lot of game with an aweful lot of different cartridges. My observation is that bullets do the killing and that field induced variables far outweigh cartridge designation.

You seem to be asking questions you don't want answers to.

[Rio56]

Originally Posted by chuck

Get this. I have shot a lot of game with an aweful lot of different cartridges. My observation is that bullets do the killing and that field induced variables far outweigh cartridge designation.

You seem to be asking questions you don't want answers to.

Get more ...answer the question of the 338 win ..Chuck, you know the moose ? last chance .. ..

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by Rio56

so bottom line is .. you're comfortable in taking a quartering shot at an elk at 350 yards with a 7-08.. and not worring about chasing or as you would say ..wounding ..capable and proper are two different things .. a 223 is proper .. why not reduce your recoil and go there

You should just stick to bb guns.

[Jordan Smith]

Originally Posted by Rio56

so bottom line is .. you're comfortable in taking a quartering shot at an elk at 350 yards with a 7-08.. and not worring about chasing or as you would say ..wounding ..capable and proper are two different things .. a 223 is proper .. why not reduce your recoil and go there

Bottom line is...don't argue a point you've never witnessed in the flesh, with guys who have seen it play out several times. When guys are telling you that the 7-08 will kill elk reliably out to much further than you've shot game, it's based on experience, not conjecture.

Lotsa guys use .223 and .22-250 on elk, but it isn't legal in AB, so let's not go there.

Once you validate and/or calibrate your ballistic calcs via live fire at range, using a good app, you can trust its output in future scenarios, even if atmospheric variables change. This is not the same as learning to read and shoot in the wind. You'll have to do both.

[sns2]

Originally Posted by Rio56

Get more ...answer the question of the 338 win ..Chuck, you know the moose ? last chance .. ..

You know, when you are asking questions, and intelligent, experienced hunters give you their advice, you shouldn't disregard it. My guess is there are more than a couple people thinking that you probably couldn't handle the recoil, and still shoot accurately with a 338 mag.

Forget the questions, a google search will give you all the answers you need. Instead, go join a range, get a rifle you can handle, and practice. Seriously.

[elkhunter11]

You seem to be asking questions you don't want answers to.

That seems to happen a lot around here.

Get more ...answer the question of the 338 win ..Chuck, you know the moose ? last chance .. ..

How about answering a question for us, just how many big game animals have you killed?

[KBF]

Originally Posted by Rio56

Get more ...answer the question of the 338 win ..Chuck, you know the moose ? last chance .. ..

I think it has been made quite obvious that all of the other choices have proven to be successful. So I would really go out a limb and guess the 338 will as well.

It's been mentioned already that getting familiar with your rifle and practice will only make you confident.

Good luck on your quest. When you find the perfect rifle let us know. Everyone else seems to be wrong.

[Jordan Smith]

Originally Posted by Rio56

Get more ...answer the question of the 338 win ..Chuck, you know the moose ? last chance .. ..

Not to put words in Chuck's mouth, but it's probably because he enjoys shooting critters with a variety of different rifles, not necessarily because said rifle is "needed" in a given scenario, but because he feels like it. At least that's often the case when I take out the boomers chasing smallish game like WT. A friend of mine took his .338 Lapua Mag chasing Pronghorn a few years back, and then went to Alaska and shot a large Grizz with his .260. Some might scratch their heads at his cartridge selection on those game animals, but he knew that either rifle would work in either scenario, had confidence in his rifles, and took whichever one he felt like taking on each hunt.

[Rio56]

All I was trying to do is understand what's makes people buy certain calibers ? as in hunting elk for example and shooting out to 350 yards ..ya ya ya the most famous saying " proper placement " .. but hey why would you buy a heavy recoiling 338 win versus a ***** cat 7-08...QUESTION is .. can they do the same ..no- way and the funny thing is ? the buyers don't know why a 338 win packs more punch and killing , than a punny 7-08 ..

[sns2]

Originally Posted by Rio56

All I was trying to do is understand what's makes people buy certain calibers ? as in hunting elk for example and shooting out to 350 yards ..ya ya ya the most famous saying " proper placement " .. but hey why would you buy a heavy recoiling 338 win versus a ***** cat 7-08...QUESTION is .. can they do the same ..no- way and the funny thing is ? the buyers don't know why a 338 win packs more punch and killing , than a punny 7-08 ..funny I know

You are becoming bizarre.

Buy a 338 Win Mag in a Tikka T3 Lite. It's a lightweight, accurate hunting rifle with a good trigger. Best of luck. You've obviously got this one figured out.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by Rio56

Get more ...answer the question of the 338 win ..Chuck, you know the moose ? last chance .. ..

What do you want to know? I packed the 338 today hunting Elk. I'll pack the 280 tomorrow and hope I get a 350 yd raking shot.

[fish_e_o]

Originally Posted by Rio56

All I was trying to do is understand what's makes people buy certain calibers?

If i don't have it i generally want one with some exceptions

[fish_e_o]

Originally Posted by sns2

You are becoming bizarre.

Buy a 338 Win Mag in a Tikka T3 Lite. It's a lightweight, accurate hunting rifle with a good trigger. Best of luck.

Haha and a limbsaver.