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Maybe they were just nut jobs and ended it with a quick draw contest for kicks. Good movie ending.
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I was wondering about something .only because I thought I remembered a media source saying there wasn't much cell coverage up there and they went door to door notifying residents of the suspects because no radio broadcast either .Can someone verify that as right or wrong. I kinda thought that if they burnt the rav4 and hit the bush on the 22nd ,but were not announced as suspects until the 23rd that they may never have known there was a manhunt for them Unless im wrong and they were announced before the 22nd ,even tho they knew they were guilty of it because being seen in the dead gentlemans car the rcmp had suspects to charge ,did they know they found video of them in the car I wonder I might have missed it ive ben looking back trying to find the date they were first announced as suspects and charged with the murder but haven't seen anything before the 23rd
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08-09-2019, 07:22 PM
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Cell service flat out sucks in northern MB. Even in the more popular northern areas, like say between The Pas and Flin Flon, you pretty much lose coverage the second you turn off the main highway. They may have had a couple spots of service on the drive up there, but I've always found that if you get service you pretty much have to stop and sit in one spot, if you stay moving you'll probably drop the signal quick.
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08-09-2019, 07:26 PM
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Wonder what the big delay & mystery is regarding cause of death?
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08-09-2019, 07:43 PM
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Wonder what the big delay & mystery is regarding cause of death?
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Yeah and how long ago they died guess autopsys take awhile id bet they could expedite this one tho
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08-10-2019, 08:13 AM
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Wonder what the big delay & mystery is regarding cause of death?
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Maybe some local used them for target practice, even better movie ending.
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08-10-2019, 11:48 AM
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Yeah and how long ago they died guess autopsys take awhile id bet they could expedite this one tho
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The autopsy’s are already done. There are news articles stating they may never be made public.
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08-10-2019, 12:00 PM
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The autopsy’s are already done. There are news articles stating they may never be made public.
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Any links? I'd be interested in reading them.
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08-10-2019, 12:46 PM
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The autopsy’s are already done. There are news articles stating they may never be made public.
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Did they give they’re reasoning to not disclosing cause of death?
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08-10-2019, 01:30 PM
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Any links? I'd be interested in reading them.
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Same here.
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08-10-2019, 04:18 PM
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The autopsy’s are already done. There are news articles stating they may never be made public.
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I think the Canadian public has a right to know how these guys died. In the circumstances I don't think there is any obligation of confidentiality to anyone.
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08-10-2019, 08:07 PM
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Yetty?
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08-10-2019, 08:15 PM
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I think the Canadian public has a right to know how these guys died. In the circumstances I don't think there is any obligation of confidentiality to anyone.
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And then prosecute somebody who helped police killing those 2 in self difence and may be saved life of some Canadians?
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08-10-2019, 08:20 PM
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Any links? I'd be interested in reading them.
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It has been all over the news( last 2 days) that they may not disclose matter of death from the autopsies.....
Why would they not is my question? And if they do not, I am sure public pressure would eventually reveal it...
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08-10-2019, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by kevinhits
It has been all over the news( last 2 days) that they may not disclose matter of death from the autopsies.....
Why would they not is my question? And if they do not, I am sure public pressure would eventually reveal it...
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You wouldn’t be so persistent if you revenged the death of you child would you?
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08-10-2019, 08:33 PM
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Quote:
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It has been all over the news( last 2 days) that they may not disclose matter of death from the autopsies.....
Why would they not is my question? And if they do not, I am sure public pressure would eventually reveal it...
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I read it is up to the deceased persons family and NOT the RCMP to allow the cause of death to be made public. That is why Leonard Dyks cause of death has not been released, because his family did not want them to be released.
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I read it is up to the deceased persons family and NOT the RCMP to allow the cause of death to be made public. That is why Leonard Dyks cause of death has not been released, because his family did not want them to be released.
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I could understand that in Leonard's case with him being the victim - but in the case of the perpetrators I would've thought the circumstances would be different. This being "bleeding heart Canada" though, it doesn't surprise me.
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08-11-2019, 02:47 AM
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I could understand that in Leonard's case with him being the victim - but in the case of the perpetrators I would've thought the circumstances would be different. This being "bleeding heart Canada" though, it doesn't surprise me.
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I do not know what the law says about the release of the autopsy results in this case. It seems to me that the authorities involved everyone in Canada to keep a look out for these two monsters and we are now entitled to know the facts.
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08-11-2019, 07:56 AM
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60 Minutes interview with one of the murders father
https://youtu.be/9h69UHbRrfY
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The guys are dead...
I know the death penalty is a popular subject and supported by a lot of AO'ers but it sounds like a bunch of you want to satisfy a need to know that they suffered prior to their death.
Maybe if we do bring back the death penalty some day we should include a little torture prior to pushing the plunger.
In honesty I think the cause of death will eventually be released either when they 100% rule out foul played (ie the 2 were not murdered) or in the form of a public inquiry.
Remember, there was no official release of the cause of death for ROSZKO until the Mayerthorpe public inquiry some 6 years later.
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08-11-2019, 10:14 AM
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You're right. They are dead. Many of us are glad because they won't be a drain on our taxes, and families won't be subjected to hearing how they were hard done by etc...
In a historically high profile case like this that played out in front of our eyes, I think it is only natural for people to want to know how it came to an end, and if there may have been someone else involved.
I personally don't think it is a macabre fascination with how their last seconds played out.
You brought up torture. Maybe if guys like this were tortured publicly, there would be less of a propensity to wantonly destroy human life as if it were the equivalent of a video game. The world is coming unhinged with all these senseless murders, and no one seems to have any answers as to why, much less solutions. I'm not advocating torture, but I get the frustration people feel toward crass violence such as these two punks unleashed.
Just my 2 cents, which btw we are all allowed on a forum such as this.
Have a good one.
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Inquiring minds want to know
Autopsies complete on bodies found in northern Manitoba, more details Monday
B.C. RCMP will release details Monday of autopsies on bodies believed to be Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...done-1.5243304
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Maybe some local used them for target practice, even better movie ending.
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The wife and I were musing about this in the car this morning.
Wonder if the secrecy is because some local realized who they were, capped them and moved on without saying anything.
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08-11-2019, 04:21 PM
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The wife and I were musing about this in the car this morning.
Wonder if the secrecy is because some local realized who they were, capped them and moved on without saying anything.
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Be ironic to find them laying on the highway.
No disrespect intended to the actual victims.
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08-11-2019, 11:04 PM
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Probably murder suicide,Let's not feel for the 2, or the father or Bryer, lets feel for the families of the inocent victoms who were enjoying life.
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08-11-2019, 11:30 PM
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Maybe if we do bring back the death penalty some day we should include a little torture prior to pushing the plunger.
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I like the way you think! 
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The RCMP have reported that McLeod & Schmegelsky died by "suicide through gunfire".
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suicide.
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The RCMP have reported that McLeod & Schmegelsky died by "suicide through gunfire".
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Maybe they knew the Clinton's?
Did they shoot themselves in the back of the head?
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