Covid 19: Medical / Technical Thread

[The Elkster]

What is amazing to me is just how widespread the trend of Chinese international students is. I thought it was more a Canada thing and maybe west coast US but online there have been people reporting large Asian student populations across the globe. And many of those students were home for the holidays and just returned to studies. Not sure if a Pandemic virus could draw it up any better.

The lack of hard info just makes this thing feel so weird too. Like how could China take the huge steps they have with thousands of disclosed cases and us not hear something more concrete by now? I get that they are secretive but the cat is kinda out of the bag. What does secrecy do at this point other than not preventing them from getting proper support from outside? Could this be largely a result of miscommunication by Chinese officials then panic which leads to more panic and maybe some incorrect assumptions piled on that. "oh I assumed because you asked me to lock things down that you had confirmed your info first, dohhh" kinda thing. Chinese citizens aren't exactly immune to panic either. They are generally pretty germophobic. I wouldn't put it past China to create a complete cluster F over a relatively minor issue because of internal commie politics.

And then if this turns out to be relatively minor I really worry about the apathy that would create for the next time something pops up. I'm thoroughly confused at this point.

[bessiedog]

Originally Posted by 1stLand

I need to vent.
I really hate China.

That that was a poor attempt at humour.

It’s a amazing country. Incredible history. Fantastic people.


Gov’t could use a lil democracy .... yes.



But if your serious.... give your head a shake.

[CMichaud]

Out of the 80 or so who have died, does anyone know the ages?

As perspective, Influenza kills about 3500 Canadians per year

[Geraldsh]

I am also curious about the nationality of the victims. What if it is only celestials who die from the virus?

[makin tracks]

Originally Posted by WhiteTailAB

There is a zerohedge article talking about 2 Chinese lab techs that worked in a Winnipeg lab with this virus. Some will call ZH fake news but I will try to find the link.

Edit: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...d-weaponize-it

rumour floating around that Chinese agents stole the virus from canadian lab and started monkeying around with it in wuhan labs.

we can thank trudy for this i would think.

[makin tracks]

also rumor has it that people in wuhan are starting to run out of food, total military lock down, no trucks in, no trucks out. wonder if china will sacrifice 50 million people?

[Zip]

Originally Posted by The Elkster

Was reading one place where Australia lobster market is 95% china. Prices were $105/kg now $0/kg. My wife works for a company that primarily sells to China. We were theorizing they may well have to shut the whole plant down if this thing carries on. Thank god the house is paid off.

Also something to consider is how much we rely on Chinese manufacturing. What are the knock on effects of a prolonged shutdown of Chinese manufacturing. The potential ramifications go far beyond the sickness itself.

Originally Posted by makin tracks

also rumor has it that people in wuhan are starting to run out of food, total military lock down, no trucks in, no trucks out. wonder if china will sacrifice 50 million people?

Wow... I just can’t even Imagine the turmoil going on in good peoples lives over there, what would we do if all of a sudden your not allowed to leave, get shot if you try and can’t leave your homes.. what about no time to stockpile grub or waters..just what would we do.. sheer panic would be normal response I suppose
Makes a fella think about all the chaos those good family’s are facing... scary, I’d say so!
Zip

[bloopbloob]

Originally Posted by Zip

Wow... I just can’t even Imagine the turmoil going on in good peoples lives over there, what would we do if all of a sudden your not allowed to leave, get shot if you try and can’t leave your homes.. what about no time to stockpile grub or waters..just what would we do.. sheer panic would be normal response I suppose
Makes a fella think about all the chaos those good family’s are facing... scary, I’d say so!
Zip

Yup. I have to assume a lot of these affected people live in poverty, on complete lockdown, no income, no food reserves, can't buy PPE if they could even afford it. I am sure we are only getting the tidbits of what it is actually like over there right now. My sympathy is with them. We have it pretty good here.

[glen moa]

Remember people asking what would you do if everything collapsed.
Well here is an example of what people will do.

Please keep all updates coming.

[raab]

Originally Posted by makin tracks

also rumor has it that people in wuhan are starting to run out of food, total military lock down, no trucks in, no trucks out. wonder if china will sacrifice 50 million people?

They’ve done it before to maintain power...

[makin tracks]

https://youtu.be/p_LN0T01wRU

[bloopbloob]

I can only imagine the struggles a lot of these people have had to endure. To be eating bats and all kinds of crazy crap just for protein to survive. Really makes you think. I'm sure they wouldn't if they didn't have to. Doing what they have to just to survive

[270person]

Originally Posted by The Elkster

A light marinade of olive oil and Lysol will make any Chinese food products perfectly safe. Lets not panic here!

Might make the food taste better, or cause it to explode, but likely would do very little to affect the virus.

[WhiteTailAB]

Originally Posted by bloopbloob

I can only imagine the struggles a lot of these people have had to endure. To be eating bats and all kinds of crazy crap just for protein to survive. Really makes you think. I'm sure they wouldn't if they didn't have to. Doing what they have to just to survive

That's what democratic socialism aka communism does to countries!

[270person]

Originally Posted by raab

It’s starting to look like it’s not airborne and requires direct contact for transmission. Given the amount of people who were on flights you’d expect to see more cases popping up outside China. They don’t even know the source yet, so could be all these people were exposed to the same source seeing as every case has come out of China.

Simple solution. No travel in or out. First step towards isolating the virus is to isolate the carriers.

[bloopbloob]

Originally Posted by 270person

Simple solution. No travel in or out. First step towards isolating the virus is to isolate the carriers.

Agreed. I'm impressed with the response to lock down 50 million people. The carriers in other counties, couple here and there, that can be managed. If they didn't lock down, jeebus. It's already bad enough

[270person]

Originally Posted by bloopbloob

That's just it. This is in its infancy. Exponential growth takes a bit of time to really show up. Scary start so early, with a 2 week incubation period, only 4 weeks in....

Just a quick question. Are you a doctor? Microbiologist? Infectious disease physician? Pathogen specialist?

Genuinely interested in where your expertise lies?

[Ken07AOVette]

Originally Posted by CMichaud

Out of the 80 or so who have died, does anyone know the ages?

As perspective, Influenza kills about 3500 Canadians per year

And?

This may kill that many in a week. Thats 182,000 'per year' btw.

Once / if it takes off, that many per day? Thats 1,277,500 'per year'

Your numbers mean nothing. The 80 you are talking about died this week, from this strain. When it mutates, if you have been watching Bloop's numbers are going to make it a very significant number.

[Ken07AOVette]

Originally Posted by bloopbloob

I can only imagine the struggles a lot of these people have had to endure. To be eating bats and all kinds of crazy crap just for protein to survive. Really makes you think. I'm sure they wouldn't if they didn't have to. Doing what they have to just to survive

I do not think that is why they do it. They have cats and dogs and beef, pork and fish hanging in the same markets, the people eating the exotic crap are doing it because they think it is special in some way. Fugu? Certainly not required, but in Japan they pay huge money for it.

[Ken07AOVette]

Originally Posted by 270person

Simple solution. No travel in or out. First step towards isolating the virus is to isolate the carriers.

Originally Posted by bloopbloob

Agreed. I'm impressed with the response to lock down 50 million people. The carriers in other counties, couple here and there, that can be managed. If they didn't lock down, jeebus. It's already bad enough

Absolutely agree.

[WhiteTailAB]

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette

And?

This may kill that many in a week. Thats 182,000 'per year' btw.

Once / if it takes off, that many per day? Thats 1,277,500 'per year'

Your numbers mean nothing. The 80 you are talking about died this week, from this strain. When it mutates, if you have been watching Bloop's numbers are going to make it a very significant number.

Lol fear monger much? Holy sweet jesus.

I wish someone else had a bachelor's degree here so we could get 2 sides of "expertise"

[bloopbloob]

Originally Posted by 270person

Just a quick question. Are you a doctor? Microbiologist? Infectious disease physician? Pathogen specialist?

Genuinely interested in where your expertise lies?

Nope. Nor do I claim to be. I am a welder.

Edit: used to be a welder... no longer that either i guess.

PM me if you actually care about my credentials.

[Ken07AOVette]

Originally Posted by WhiteTailAB

Lol fear monger much? Holy sweet jesus.

I wish someone else had a bachelor's degree here so we could get 2 sides of "expertise"

You need to learn basic math.

Nothing at all to do with 'fear monger' just running the numbers based on an earlier post.

But it's ok, keep slamming and come back in another week agreeing with everyone. You are the backpedal king.

[WhiteTailAB]

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette

You need to learn basic math.

Nothing at all to do with 'fear monger' just running the numbers based on an earlier post.

But it's ok, keep slamming and come back in another week agreeing with everyone. You are the backpedal king.

I'm surprised the CDC hasn't enlisted the champs of this thread for help.

Originally Posted by CMichaud

Out of the 80 or so who have died, does anyone know the ages?

As perspective, Influenza kills about 3500 Canadians per year

He said 3500 canadians you shot back with 182000 a year.

[HighlandHeart]

Originally Posted by bat119

The coronavirus is spread from person to person, how long does the virus stay active on a hard surface?

Anybody know? I'm expecting a package from China should open it up with BBQ tongs and spray Lysol?

Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure. Good question.

[Zip]

Originally Posted by bloopbloob

Nope. Nor do I claim to be. I am a welder.

Edit: used to be a welder... no longer that either i guess.

PM me if you actually care about my credentials.

Good answer... and if some people would take their Blinders off, you wouldn’t have to say anything about your credentials.. I don’t know you personally but somehow I find myself listening to every word you post, I trust your judgement and desire to educate those of us that need just that!
So no pm from me..I’m good!
Thanks for sticking it out despite a few who would think the opposite..
Zip

[bloopbloob]

Originally Posted by Zip

Good answer... and if some people would take their Blinders off, you wouldn’t have to say anything about your credentials.. I don’t know you personally but somehow I find myself listening to every word you post, I trust your judgement and desire to educate those of us that need just that!
So no pm from me..I’m good!
Thanks for sticking it out despite a few who would think the opposite..
Zip

Thanks Zip. Really getting tired of having to prove myself. Getting sick of it. I have nothing to gain with what I post. Take it or leave it. ****

[WhiteTailAB]

Originally Posted by bloopbloob

Thanks Zip. Really getting tired of having to prove myself. Getting sick of it. I have nothing to gain with what I post. Take it or leave it. ****

No one is asking you to prove yourself. You interjected yourself into this by listing your education, carrying on with predictions and opinions and then getting upset when you get questioned or called out for fear mongering.

[Ken07AOVette]

Originally Posted by WhiteTailAB

I'm surprised the CDC hasn't enlisted the champs of this thread for help.



He said 3500 canadians you shot back with 182000 a year.

3500 in a year means 9.6 per day in Canada

If it kills that many in a week in China; 3500 x 52 is.....182,000

Get it?

This virus is just in it's infancy.

[WhiteTailAB]

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette

3500 in a year means 9.6 per day in Canada

If it kills that many in a week in China; 3500 x 52 is.....182,000

Get it?

This virus is just in it's infancy.

If ifs and buts were candies and nuts.

It could kill 10000 a week, it could kill 50 per week. What if it killed 9.6 per day?

Your numbers are nothing but speculation.