Immigration

[Grizzly Adams1]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

They are coming here from war torn countries for the most part which is way better.

Just a thought to toss around.

We did too, but we didn't bring our corrosive religion or ideology with us.

[densa44]

My grandmother, born here in 1900 used to tell me that ads would be placed in the newspaper for cleaning ladies that "the Irish need not apply" , next we were opposed to Catholics, French, Italians, Hungarians, just about everyone who comes here. You can't have the second largest country in the world with 35 million people! We are on our way to 100 million and we have lots of room.

Our ancestors lived in sod houses, raised families and helped build this country. These young people can too.

As far as I'm concerned, if you come here, work hard, get along with your neighbours, pay your taxes and stay 2 winters you're one of us!

[Sporty]

Those who immigrated to Canada under our points based system put in the work, time and money to immigrate here. These are often professional, educated immigrants who would add value to our country. Sadly for many of them, they are then unable to be employed in their fields without a bunch of bureaucratic red tape so we have potential engineers, doctors and nurses working at Tims or driving Uber.

With the Liberal's new system, we're importing migrants, asylum seekers and refugees who often bring little value with them. Now we have the courts giving criminals breaks in the justice system to avoid deportation, we're spending millions by housing and feeding thousands in hotels. Both feds and provincial politicians have allowed International students to take entry level jobs from our youth. Corporations prefer to exploit them and TFW's in order to make bank.

Liberals redefined our robust, points based immigration system to a quantity over quality immigration system and our country is suffering from the effects of Trudeau's "Post National State".

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1

We did too, but we didn't bring our corrosive religion or ideology with us.

Some did and some didn't just like now.

[dmcbride]

Originally Posted by Rvsask

Did Smith not say that the Feds were undercutting AB’s ability to fill jobs by keeping immigration numbers to the province lower than she wants?
She did, look it up. She actually called for the current allotment to be doubled plus an additional 10000 for Ukraine according to the national post Just food for thought.

And also, an immigrant can’t apply for citizenship for 1095 days after arriving in Canada. I guess my point of mentioning that is just to address the whole “people can’t go back after they get here because those countries don’t have dual citizenship” thing mentioned. Those people are not citizens of Canada for 3 years minimum. Yes, I ask questions of immigrants I worked alongside as well as the nice physio therapist from India who fixed my shoulder. Lol

I have no problem with this,

“ Smith called on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government Wednesday to immediately double to 20,000 the number of allotments to Alberta under the Provincial Nominee Program and add 10,000 on top of that for Ukraine evacuees.”

More skilled immigrants is a good thing.

“ The Alberta Advantage Immigration Program (AAIP) is an economic immigration program that nominates people for permanent residence in Alberta. Nominees must have skills to fill job shortages or be planning to buy or start a business in Alberta. They must also be able to provide for their families. The program is run by the governments of Alberta and Canada.”

[walking buffalo]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

They are coming here from war torn countries for the most part which is way better.

Just a thought to toss around.

You could barely be more wrong....
Less than 10% of Immigration are Refuges.

[Fradaburidi]

Originally Posted by KGB

Today we have a very different crowd in most cases that arrive here…

Unfortunately this is true.

[Fradaburidi]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

They are coming here from war torn countries for the most part which is way better.

Just a thought to toss around.

Why here? The world is big. Is Canada the mother of all wounded? Can we afford them? How much more increase in taxes?

Somebody warned me that this is a socialist country and to stay away from it but I didn't listen and now I'm paying the price.

I'm not against sustainable high quality immigration, but this is not what's going on.

A lot of "immigrants" jus use and abuse Canada just because they can.

It's not their fault in the end, I blame it on who allows it.

All this facts are well known, but nothing is done, would be politically incorrect.

[Fradaburidi]

Originally Posted by densa44

We are on our way to 100 million and we have lots of room.

You make me laugh.

Canada = 5 cities.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

You could barely be more wrong....
Less than 10% of Immigration are Refuges.

More like closer to 18% ish.

barely wrong....I like that one

[Fradaburidi]

Canada will be the first country to let extraterrestrials in.

[densa44]

We can't defend ourselves and now we have an unreliable ally so... what should we do?

How about increasing immigration and find ways to deal with it. It can't be that hard every other country has done it.

The USA seeing that it was a 3 rd. world country after the war of 1812, allowed unlimited immigation to build its population. We turned away lots of peoiple who would have helped a lot. "One is too many" refereing to Jews, tuerned back a ship load of keen Sikis and then stood by doing nothing while Britain participated in a war that killed off 60,000 young Canadians, all for nothing.

So we are reaping what we have sowed, we need people and need to find ways to make them participating hard working Canadians, we can do it. It may not be easy but we can do it.

[chasingtail]

This was a pretty good country when we had a population of 25-30 million in the 90’s why the big push to increase our population. Don’t we care about climate change bringing in people from low carbon countries into a cold high carbon country. The biggest thing we can do to reduce our carbon footprint is eliminate immigration. It pretty much solves all our current problems.

[walking buffalo]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

They are coming here from war torn countries for the most part which is way better.

Just a thought to toss around.

Originally Posted by 58thecat

More like closer to 18% ish.

barely wrong....I like that one

How is 18% the "most part"?
Even using your number, you are still mostly wrong.



10-18% refugees.... the rest are here for "family reunification" and economic reasons.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...tion-2023.html

[pikergolf]

Coming to our country soon, and it has started in the bigger centres already. Worth a watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okl8pj3_Wx4

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

How is 18% the "most part"?
Even using your number, you are still mostly wrong.



10-18% refugees.... the rest are here for "family reunification" and economic reasons.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...tion-2023.html

And I bet the 10-18 % are appreciative to being in Canada compared to where they came from.


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[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

And I bet the 10-18 % are appreciative to being in Canada compared to where they came from.


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I'd bet most of them will try and turn this country into "their" country.
Again, I will say watch the video I posted, their own words.

[igorot]

Be more specific on immigrants. Are you referring to moving from another province or country? If you are referring to moving from another country and have no experience doing it, best advice is to zip it than to indulge . (honestly)

Again refugees, asylum seekers, illegal, TFW (Temporary Foreign Worker) Tourists are not immigrants and under different rules. They are described as such.

As per the official description from Canada Immigration, which you can find on their website or in their official documents, 'Landed immigrants are people who have been granted the right to live in Canada permanently by immigration authorities.'

[59whiskers]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

I'd bet most of them will try and turn this country into "their" country.
Again, I will say watch the video I posted, their own words.

Heard it said from a refugee neighbor 9 years ago. Most newcomers are not trouble, a few need to be corrected. I mentioned to this refugee that my ancestors left the wars in the old country and new arrivals need to do the same. I openly say this frequently.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

I'd bet most of them will try and turn this country into "their" country.
Again, I will say watch the video I posted, their own words.

Well ya, it’s been going on since the very beginning, every immigrant etc gather with like minded people from their past country and form a community and go from there.
French, Dutch, Scottish, Irish etc etc etc
No different then now.


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[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

I'd bet most of them will try and turn this country into "their" country.
Again, I will say watch the video I posted, their own words.

When you import from 3rd world crapholes.....they won't benefit Canada in the slightest.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

Well ya, it’s been going on since the very beginning, every immigrant etc gather with like minded people from their past country and form a community and go from there.
French, Dutch, Scottish, Irish etc etc etc
No different then now.


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They may have settled by nationality or ethnic background, but they eagerly adapted the Canadian laws and lifestyle in the past. Now they want their own laws, as in Sharia law, and they want other special privileges to suite their customs and religion, as in changes to RCMP uniforms, exemptions from helmet
laws, no pork served in schools, special facilities to pray at work, etc.

[ESOXangler]

Originally Posted by pittman

All this bellyaching makes me think that an immigrant worked harder, got your job, saved more money and then bought the house you wanted.

No?

Outside money came in, purchased retail establishments sold Lima contracts back home to highest bidder so now no one can get a decent first job. Filled colleges with uneducated foreign kids with family money. Slowly moving into the trades and only hiring people from their own team. It doesn’t take long to see the narrative of the pull themselves up from their boot straps immigrant is a ruse.
Go to millwoods, north east Calgary, surrey, Brampton and you’ll see the future…

[urban rednek]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Now they want their own laws, as in Sharia law, and they want other special privileges to suite their customs and religion

I feel it is necessary to point out that a similar situation has been happening in Canada and the US for years. But they aren't recent immigrants, and they are definitely not Muslim.
I'll revise your statement as:

Now they want their own religious based laws applied to everyone, and they want other special privileges to suite their customs and religion.

What are we gonna do?

[Bushrat]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

Well ya, it’s been going on since the very beginning, every immigrant etc gather with like minded people from their past country and form a community and go from there.
French, Dutch, Scottish, Irish etc etc etc
No different then now.


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Very different than now. Historical immigration to north America had mostly like minded people with similar goals, similar religions and mostly the same race. Even then there was intolerance, fighting/discrimination among different groups. Kinda like stocking a stream with many kinds of trout, occasionally they eat each other.

The Natives welcomed us at first, big mistake for them.

Today's immigration consists of non similar minded people, non similar religions that have always clashed with frequent violence and intolerance. Many with little intention of integrating. Now we are stocking that nice trout stream with pike, piranaha, sharks, etc., and they all eat trout, they will eat them till they're gone. Then they will start eating each other, like in the stream they came from

We are welcoming huge numbers of non traditional immigrants with intolerant conflicting religions, many that are here to exploit. What do you think is going to happen? We are already seeing this intolerance on our streets.

[lmtada]

Diversity is not strength. We cannot even define what it means to be Canadian. Yet every Swede bleeds yellow/blue.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by densa44

We can't defend ourselves and now we have an unreliable ally so... what should we do?

How about increasing immigration and find ways to deal with it. It can't be that hard every other country has done it.

The USA seeing that it was a 3 rd. world country after the war of 1812, allowed unlimited immigation to build its population. We turned away lots of peoiple who would have helped a lot. "One is too many" refereing to Jews, tuerned back a ship load of keen Sikis and then stood by doing nothing while Britain participated in a war that killed off 60,000 young Canadians, all for nothing.

So we are reaping what we have sowed, we need people and need to find ways to make them participating hard working Canadians, we can do it. It may not be easy but we can do it.

Europe is dealing with it's own problems from mass immigration. Crime has become a major issue and like us, it's getting to where they can't afford the immigrants.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

They may have settled by nationality or ethnic background, but they eagerly adapted the Canadian laws and lifestyle in the past. Now they want their own laws, as in Sharia law, and they want other special privileges to suite their customs and religion, as in changes to RCMP uniforms, exemptions from helmet
laws, no pork served in schools, special facilities to pray at work, etc.

Not all adapted to our laws etc in the past as with now.
Difference is back then you got wacked upside the head or worse and now you get a support group and maybe a small time out.
Either way as with the past many are extremely happy to be here and make a positive contributing lifestyle embracing Canada for what it has to offer.


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[Rvsask]

Originally Posted by dmcbride

I have no problem with this,

“ Smith called on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government Wednesday to immediately double to 20,000 the number of allotments to Alberta under the Provincial Nominee Program and add 10,000 on top of that for Ukraine evacuees.”

More skilled immigrants is a good thing.

“ The Alberta Advantage Immigration Program (AAIP) is an economic immigration program that nominates people for permanent residence in Alberta. Nominees must have skills to fill job shortages or be planning to buy or start a business in Alberta. They must also be able to provide for their families. The program is run by the governments of Alberta and Canada.”

I was not saying you or anyone should have a problem with it just pointing out DS’ thoughts and involvement in the process for the OP and everyone else that thinks this is 100% on the boogeyman JT because someone said so. Lol

It’s an interesting topic for sure. One thing I know , the Catholic Schools and small town basketball teams in Saskatchewan would be dead or dieing far more quickly without Filipinos. Lol

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by Bushrat

Very different than now. Historical immigration to north America had mostly like minded people with similar goals, similar religions and mostly the same race. Even then there was intolerance, fighting/discrimination among different groups. Kinda like stocking a stream with many kinds of trout, occasionally they eat each other.

The Natives welcomed us at first, big mistake for them.

Today's immigration consists of non similar minded people, non similar religions that have always clashed with frequent violence and intolerance. Many with little intention of integrating. Now we are stocking that nice trout stream with pike, piranaha, sharks, etc., and they all eat trout, they will eat them till they're gone. Then they will start eating each other, like in the stream they came from

We are welcoming huge numbers of non traditional immigrants with intolerant conflicting religions, many that are here to exploit. What do you think is going to happen? We are already seeing this intolerance on our streets.

This is true, like I said been going on since the beginning of this country trying to figure itself out.
Only difference now is the amount of people showing up and of course social media giving us instant updates be them accurate or not then we take our spin off of it and go from there.
Funny how most here are 60 plus and seem to find a way to say remember when etc etc but the old folks back then said the same thing about them when they were wet behind the ears.



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