Obama gun control announcement.

[260 Rem]

Originally Posted by hockey1099

In how many years are "they" coming for American's guns? 1? 2? 5? 10? 50?

Remember US law has no weight in Canada. That said we already have similar laws and they havent come for our guns yet.

Hard to calculate an exact date as it is based on the Mayan calendar

[greylynx]

Originally Posted by Rocky7

Can't see one new law/regulation that could realistically have changed the outcome at Sandy Hook.

Once again, an offensive criminal act results in laws aimed at the law-abiding and adds some bureaucrats. "school resource officer"??

x2

[mudbug]

Originally Posted by rugatika

Actually, I'm going to guess that 80% of the shooting were gang shootings. Of course SLATE magazine is going to pick the heart wrenching stories to play on emotions.

Funny, they left out how many times a gun was used to SAVE a life in that time period. What's that saying they have in the media? "If it bleeds it leads."

http://www.akdart.com/gun3.html

Among 15.7% of gun defenders interviewed nationwide during The National Self Defense Survey, the defender believed that someone "almost certainly" would have died had the gun not been used for protection -- a life saved by a privately held gun about once every 1.3 minutes. (In another 14.2% cases, the defender believed someone "probably" would have died if the gun hadn't been used in defense.) fr http://www.pulpless.com/gunclock/stats.html

Just for fun read... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=XMg0FQS6Fqo 15 year old boy uses ar15 to defend him and his little sister.

Here's a few interesting links
http://www.infowars.com/statistics-p...ns-less-crime/

http://www.captainsjournal.com/2012/...ies-and-brits/

[hockey1099]

Originally Posted by CanuckShooter

Just wait until we have a Liberal or NDP government in Ottawa....you'll eat those words.

So all those years of Chretien and Martin who didnt take away our guns.

So the time frame is the next time a left leaning government is elected? Ill eat my words if they take away our guns and you'll eat your words if they dont in the first term?

[Hagalaz]

Originally Posted by Rocky7

Commit every word of what you just said to memory.

Years from now, when your bolt-action is restricted or when ammunition is too expensive to buy or you are limited to only one firearm, look in a mirror and recite your own words. That way, you'll know who to blame and won't come on boards like this complaining and looking for support, k?

Agreed.

The amount of people on here that are actually supporting Obama's nonsense just makes me shake my head. Who ever thought that people on AO would be rooting for gun control measures, anywhere.

And to the poster who said "who needs an M4". Well, its apparent that you don't. But does that mean that no one should be allowed to have one, just because you don't like them?

[CanuckShooter]

Originally Posted by hockey1099

So all those years or Chretien and Martin didnt take away our guns.

So the time frame is the next time a left leaning government is elected? Ill eat my words if they take away our guns and you'll eat your words if they dont in the first term?

It was a campaign platform in the last federal election that the Liberals would BAN handguns in Canada, I saw Iggy say it on the news. Both parties support firearm registration and further gun control....

First term in a majority government....and shortly after the first madman shoots up a theater you'd see it happen. I don't doubt it.

[rccam1]

Who can argue with safe gun handling or storage. Not me

Who can argue with proper background checks. Not me

But I can argue about self protection. I am my familys Armed Gaurd.

[greylynx]

And remember, the worst enemies come from within.

Thank you Bee Guy for your outside observation of us gun owners.

It is good to know liberals for that outside look in.

[burbotman]

Originally Posted by rccam1

Who can argue with safe gun handling or storage. Not me

Who can argue with proper background checks. Not me

But I can argue about self protection. I am my familys Armed Gaurd.

Most logical post I have seen, to borrow a line from Hunter Dave " I dare" someone to argue with the above

[HunterDave]

Originally Posted by 260 Rem

A lot of Pres Obama's exec orders (which require congressional approval) are similar to what we have here in Canada... I suspect most of his "orders" will gain congressional approval, at which point..it is congress that is the bad guy in the eyes of the opposers.

I don't think that the executive orders require any approval from Congress. Obama's proposals do but not the executive orders, he can just issues those.

[HunterDave]

Originally Posted by rccam1

Who can argue with safe gun handling or storage. Not me

Who can argue with proper background checks. Not me

But I can argue about self protection. I am my familys Armed Gaurd.

The NRA can, does and has. They are against both safe storage and background legislation.

[Okotokian]

Could care less what they do down there. I'm a Canadian living in Canada. I feel safe enough both here and when I go down there.

[rccam1]

Originally Posted by HunterDave

The NRA can, does and has. They are against both safe storage and background legislation.

I have never heard of any one group being sensible on all aspects of an argument.

[purgatory.sv]

All the actions happening now do not answer the problem.
All the actions happening now will affect the freedoms they had.
All the actions will make it easer to go forward on the agenda.
It doesn’t matter if it is not going to influence you now it will eventually.
The house we live in is easy to divide.
It may seem reasonable now, but that is what they want.

All the action will invoke emotion and it’s difficult to remain calm when what we perceive as reason will be ignored, this is the window and they will try to open it.

Only in America , for now.

[HunterDave]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

Could care less what they do down there. I'm a Canadian living in Canada. I feel safe enough both here and when I go down there.

Sure Oko, bring reality into it.

[rccam1]

All the actions happening now do not answer the problem. Agree
All the actions happening now will affect the freedoms they had. The freedom for a nut job to own weapons. Not good
All the actions will make it easer to go forward on the agenda. Agree
It doesn’t matter if it is not going to influence you now it will eventually. Yes, but some may be in a good way
The house we live in is easy to divide. Agree
It may seem reasonable now, but that is what they want. But that is what either side wants

[greylynx]

Originally Posted by TriggerFinger

X2!

Let the $**t Storm begin ... it's looong over due!

TF

For any person who has taken statistics, the first chapter of every textbook deals with pictures like this.

I have to admit,that this picture has an excellent marketing effect. The liberals own the sleezy marketing industry. The gentle art of persuasion.

I have to get poster of that.

It would make a great addition to my box of teaching tricks.

[Selkirk]

Originally Posted by rccam1

Who can argue with safe gun handling or storage. Not me

Who can argue with proper background checks. Not me . . .

Not me, either!

But the NRA certainly does, and believe it or not, so do some members of this forum ... it's enough to make a grown man puke!

TF

[greylynx]

Originally Posted by TriggerFinger

Not me, either!

But the NRA certainly does, and believe it or not, so do some members of this forum ... it's enough to make a grown man puke!

TF

And what would these background checks encompass?

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by greylynx

And what would these background checks encompass?

One would assume criminal records check and ideally a mental health one, though the mechanics of that one being brought in and workable is beyond me. But I think most (not all of course) would agree that selling a handgun to a schizophrenic is perhaps not the best idea.

[HunterDave]

Originally Posted by greylynx

The liberals own the sleezy marketing industry. The gentle art of persuasion.

Damn, why do the L******* get all of the good stuff?

I'm thinking that the NRA would come up with something like that for people saved by a gun if they could though.

Speaking of that, ya think that Rugatika is still searching for stats.

[Selkirk]

Originally Posted by greylynx

For any person who has taken statistics, the first chapter of every textbook deals with pictures like this.

I have to admit,that this picture has an excellent marketing effect. The liberals own the sleezy marketing industry. The gentle art of persuasion.

I have to get poster of that.

It would make a great addition to my box of teaching tricks.

Some good points ^ Gray.

Sorry, I wouldn't have a hard copy of that poster, but here's the link ... http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpr...eaths1200a.jpg

Originally Posted by greylynx

And what would these background checks encompass?

Haven't the foggiest, but I would guess it would be similar to our PAL background checks.

For details, you'll have to talk to Barack.

TF

[greylynx]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

One would assume criminal records check and ideally a mental health one, though the mechanics of that one being brought in and workable is beyond me. But I think most (not all of course) would agree that selling a handgun to a schizophrenic is perhaps not the best idea.

So, Don't you think going through doctor's records will drive the mentally ill even further underground. Another liberal unitended consequence of Marxist control. You might have a good point there Oko. How many school teachers have mental problems. The ATA even pays for them. You know those little blue slips.

The crimninal record is the best part I love. People like G Gordon Liddy who also has a conservative talk show can not buy a gun because of his criminal record. What did G. Gordon Liddy do ? He was involved in the Watergate tapes. A real criminal. Some kid smoking pot gets a criminal record. Another threat to society. Yet some people who we are allowed to not talk about....

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by greylynx

The liberals own the sleezy marketing industry. The gentle art of persuasion.
.

Oh Grey, such naivete, it's cute. Prostitutes are neither Liberal nor Conservative. They work for whoever pays. Romney gave them hundreds of millions, remember?

[huntinstuff]

It is easy for Obama now.

1. He does not have to worry about another election

2. If everything passes, he is a national hero in the eyes of many

3. If it doesnt pass, he will still be "the President who tried"

He absolutely cannot lose. Perfect political planning, for now and after his term ends.

[greylynx]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

Oh Grey, such naivete, it's cute. Prostitutes are neither Liberal nor Conservative. They work for whoever pays. Romney gave them hundreds of millions, remember?

Romney lost.

Why? You just answered the question

[Desert_Faux]

Wow, some of you guys...

Fudds gonna Fudd....

[6.5x47 lapua]

Originally Posted by Fisherpeak

So?What`s wrong with that?
Nobody NEEDS an assault rifle.
I sure don`t NEED a ten round mag.I site `er in and generally 1 shot gets the job done
Everybody should have a background check to purchase a firearm,lots of loonies out there.
If you knowingly sell a firearm to a guy who isn`t allowed to have one then you should get jail time.There is a good reason why somebody gets banned from firearm ownership,I.E. he`s a crazy MoFo who has shot people before.

It seems perfectly reasonable to me.But that`s just me,I don`t have a compound in Idaho.I just like to hunt.

A define assault rifle B you dont need a 10 round mag but lets discriminate against those who want one because im a hunter and nobody else should need one either? C background checks only prevent criminals from owning LEGAL firearms nothing more. i might add that mag capacity laws are useless when a person can have more than one mag,or should we only allow single shot hunting rifles because I GET,ER DONE WITH ONE SHOT.

[greylynx]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

It is easy for Obama now.

1. He does not have to worry about another election

2. If everything passes, he is a national hero in the eyes of many

3. If it doesnt pass, he will still be "the President who tried"

He absolutely cannot lose. Perfect political planning, for now and after his term ends.

And look who's sharpening their teeth north of the border?

Stay tuned.

Thank you Huntinstuff. Keep putting those x's on the calender.

[huntinstuff]

Originally Posted by greylynx

And look who's sharpening their teeth north of the border?

Stay tuned.

Thank you Huntinstuff. Keep putting those x's on the calender.

Yup. It will be unique to see the libs and ndp actually show support for a US initiative.

Problem for them is, they NEED to worry about an election.