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10-03-2011, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by gopher
If 100 yards is a deal or no deal on a downed animal for you then it is time to turn in your man card young feller!
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Why work harder when you can work smarter. Sometimes theres no way around the hard way but if dropping it in its tracks saves 3 hours and a few extra trips why not.
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10-03-2011, 09:28 PM
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Why are you hunting bears at the dump flyguyd? thats hardly sporting
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There easier to find there and there not scared 
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10-03-2011, 09:34 PM
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Every time you post about bullets elkhunter its the same old song and dance "they wont penetrate shoulder"
There is a reason they dont make armored personell carriers out of bone and flesh, because it doesnt stop bullets.
You barnes guys are all the same
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10-03-2011, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguyd
Why work harder when you can work smarter. Sometimes theres no way around the hard way but if dropping it in its tracks saves 3 hours and a few extra trips why not.
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I usually spin the pipe while the old guy holds the protector. 
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10-03-2011, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguyd
There easier to find there and there not scared |
Bahahahaha good call
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"I don't know about the "shooting Savages" part. I have one and I have had considerable difficulty doing well with it. Part of the reason for this is that I feel a need to put bag over my head to hide my identity when ever I am shooting it!"
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10-03-2011, 09:53 PM
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Every time you post about bullets elkhunter its the same old song and dance "they wont penetrate shoulder"
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Many bullets will reliably penetrate the shoulder of an elk or a moose, but there are many bullets that are better suited for this than the SST.
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There is a reason they dont make armored personell carriers out of bone and flesh, because it doesnt stop bullets.
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But elk and moose are made of flesh and bone not steel armor.
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You barnes guys are all the same
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I suggested
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TTSX,GMX, Partition, Accubond, Interbond, or other controlled expansion bullet.
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for use on elk or moose. Only the TTSX is made by Barnes, while two of those bullets are made by Nosler, and two by Hornady.
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10-03-2011, 11:47 PM
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i have a 7mm rem mag and i loaded up some 162 grain SST's, i didn't like them, they seemed to not do as much dmg as i expected, shot 3 deer with them last year and they all died lol, so i guess they cant be that bad.
1 deer was shot in the neck, the deer barely flinched had to shoot him again and i spined the other one and barely lost any of my backsraps, not much dmg at all, had to finish him too. The last one flopped, with a head shot(fawn)
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10-04-2011, 12:17 PM
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The thing is that every bullet manufacturer seems bent on inventing a better mouse trap. I have an old Nosler reloading manual that goes back to the '60's and it seems that back then, they only had 4 or 5 powders to choose from and a limited amount of bullet choices as well. Back then, they also didn't have the internet. The old Nosler Partition was "the" premium bullet, and the Hornady Intelock was the cheaper bullet, albeit very effective. Now, everybody has a bullet which supposedly betters the Partition, although same basic design. Sometimes I wonder if all of these choices are a blessing or a curse. 
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10-04-2011, 12:23 PM
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Umm elkhunter the sst is an interbond with more jacket.
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10-04-2011, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by nick0danger
Umm elkhunter the sst is an interbond with more jacket.
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Actually, it is closer to an Interlock with a polymer tip.
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10-04-2011, 12:51 PM
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Basically guys, I just want a fast flat shooting bullet for my 280, that if I want to I can shoot something in the shoulder to drop on the spot. Suggestions?
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10-04-2011, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by gitrdun
actually, it is closer to an interlock with a polymer tip.
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10-04-2011, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 280Hunter
Basically guys, I just want a fast flat shooting bullet for my 280, that if I want to I can shoot something in the shoulder to drop on the spot. Suggestions?
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Aaahhhh! you want the same "magic bullet" that Lee Harvey Oswald used on Nov. 22, 1963! Seriously though, pick one, most anyone and stick it in the right spot and it should do it. I was going to suggest staying away from a ballistic tip, but I have been proven wrong in that aspect also.
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10-04-2011, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 280Hunter
Basically guys, I just want a fast flat shooting bullet for my 280, that if I want to I can shoot something in the shoulder to drop on the spot. Suggestions?
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If I wanted to move a bullet quickly in a .280 Rem. I would likely choose something in a 140 grain weight. There are plenty of good choices out there. For me...if it is going to be for general purpose big game hunting (deer, moose, elk, black bears) I would notchoose a lightly constructed, polymer tipped 140 grain bullet such as the Nosler Ballistic Tip, Hornady SST. That's just me...
Hornady, Sierra, Nosler, Barnes, Speer...they all make bullets that will suit your needs, buy some and do some shooting, decide what you like, case closed.
well....gitrdun beat me to it...
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10-04-2011, 04:50 PM
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Umm elkhunter the sst is an interbond with more jacket.
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Actually, the Interbond has a similar jacket, but the core is bonded to the jacket, while the SST doesn't have a bonded core.
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10-04-2011, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 280Hunter
Basically guys, I just want a fast flat shooting bullet for my 280, that if I want to I can shoot something in the shoulder to drop on the spot. Suggestions?
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Drop the fluff.
A-Max.
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10-04-2011, 10:36 PM
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I split a deer near in half with an amax once they are quite effective
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10-04-2011, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Robmcleod82
I split a deer near in half with an amax once they are quite effective
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Must have hit it square in the shoulder?
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10-04-2011, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Rman
Must have hit it square in the shoulder?
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Something like that
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10-05-2011, 08:55 AM
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Well I decided I'm going to try the Hornady 139gr GMX Superformance bullets, to see how they work.
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10-05-2011, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 280Hunter
Well I decided I'm going to try the Hornady 139gr GMX Superformance bullets, to see how they work.
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Be sure to let us know your results...many people are interested in these bullets!
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10-05-2011, 09:54 PM
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Be sure to let us know your results...many people are interested in these bullets!
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Sure will
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10-06-2011, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 280Hunter
Well I decided I'm going to try the Hornady 139gr GMX Superformance bullets, to see how they work.
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The have worked very well for us in a 7/08. Both our mountain goats were killed with them, mine at over 500 yards.
Used the GMX 185 in my .338WM in Africa and it did the job quick and fast as too.
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10-06-2011, 07:46 AM
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I split a deer near in half with an amax once they are quite effective
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Yeah, but not everyone uses a 750 grainer as a hunting bullet!! 
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10-13-2011, 11:11 PM
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I use Hornady Superformance bullets on Deer, Moose and Elk on my 308, they all work and I have had neck and head shots with 150Grain bullets and it went through just fine. They shoot very flat and accurate for sure. I do know though that they don't sustain their weight retention fully once they hit the target. I also use Nosler Trophy Grade bullets with Ballistic Tips, they are better then the Hornady ones but you pay nearly double the price by buying them. Nosler ones hold their weight retention full and Hornady SST with GMX ones are also great..
I would use any of these bullets for any game, it's all about shot placement guys, you can kill a moose with a 243 if you hit them in the right place, nothing to do with bullet grain or weight. Practice makes perfect shooter. I don't understand why a lot of people think that bigger guns with bigger bullets are better.
my two cents..
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10-13-2011, 11:21 PM
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I agree, it's all about shot placement.
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