Trapline Bridges, Fence Ramps, Etc

[braggadoe]

Brag, you mentioned stumpage fees when building bridge not ending well, can you provide more details.



no, not going to hang the laundry on the internet.

but i will say. folks own the timber rights,just the same as a trapper has the rights to the fur.

you need a permit to get firewood on crown land. you can also get a salvage permit.

if a permit is required. and you say. "screw it, i'll get one if they ask."

you'll be very surprised how much a tree is worth.

[Big Grey Wolf]

Brag, please PM me with details as we are considering serious bridge building this year on our line, do not want any trouble with ESRD. I will keep it confidential and not on internet. Thanks

[Marty S]

Could somebody please post this bridge policy? I would like to read this in its entirety.

[braggadoe]

i imagine, like everything. it varies from office to office. as posted above. permits for bridge building is "proposed" as far as i know.

do it right, and contact the people that are in charge of your area. not me! what ever i say isn't going to amount to hill of beans.

[Torkdiesel]

Originally Posted by Marty S

Could somebody please post this bridge policy? I would like to read this in its entirety.

There is no bridge policy. It was mentioned that if the new Trapline use / cabin use policy comes into effect there may be a permit required to build a bridge. When I asked the land guy up here in Grande Prairie about it he laughed and said build whatever you want as long as it doesn't prevent a river boat from traveling up the river. I didn't see the need to ask twice.

[Marty S]

My point was eluding towards definitions. I know what a bridge is, I also know what a couple of logs with some boards nailed to it is... A piece of junk that some people drive machines on, the same thing leaned against a tree would be a ladder, and the same thing in a fire would be bonfire fuel. I could see if you made a real bridge with cement and steel, that a guy might need a permit to build such a thing, perhaps built to a certain code so when logging trucks drive across they don't get all smashed up!

[South west trappin RG]

Originally Posted by Marty S

My point was eluding towards definitions. I know what a bridge is, I also know what a couple of logs with some boards nailed to it is... A piece of junk that some people drive machines on, the same thing leaned against a tree would be a ladder, and the same thing in a fire would be bonfire fuel. I could see if you made a real bridge with cement and steel, that a guy might need a permit to build such a thing, perhaps built to a certain code so when logging trucks drive across they don't get all smashed up!

I hope everyone has gotten all over there rant on rules an what ever they want to rant on. I have been waiting on the real stuff like marty posted in the first post, thanks Paul an the guy up north for posting picks. What we are looking for is drive over fence crossings an simple small bog crossings, things to make Kens time on the line more productive than dealing with a stuck quad or can't access an area.

[martinnordegg]

Some time ago there was a thread on the letter sent by ESRD to trappers. If you search for it go to post 9 by Torkdiesel. It has the complete letter not the partial one nube posted.

In it it says"

"Other trapline activities that require approval from ESRD Officer that are not limited to but include:
A Installation of watercourse crossings such as culvert, bridge etc.."

Also not the heading from the letter is from the Red Deer North Sask. area.

[South west trappin RG]

all the rules are going to be followed so everyone can stop worrying. Ken has contacted F an W and ESRD When ken contacted F an W they said they were in full support.

[martinnordegg]

Originally Posted by South west trappin RG

all the rules are going to be followed so everyone can stop worrying. Ken has contacted F an W and ESRD When ken contacted F an W they said they were in full support.

Perfect!

[braggadoe]

hey, when you guys get done. you should come out west and hook up with me. i've got lots of work to do. and need some strong backs.

i'll supply the crab,prawns and beer. bring your rods!

[Marty S]

Would that be fishing for little itty bitty trout on your Trapline or for them monsters where you are guiding? You know... I do like crab and prawns!

[Torkdiesel]

Originally Posted by South west trappin RG

I hope everyone has gotten all over there rant on rules an what ever they want to rant on. I have been waiting on the real stuff like marty posted in the first post, thanks Paul an the guy up north for posting picks. What we are looking for is drive over fence crossings an simple small bog crossings, things to make Kens time on the line more productive than dealing with a stuck quad or can't access an area.

Do you have a picture of a drive over fence crossing SW ? Or anybody else for that matter. I've never seen one.

[pikeslayer22]

Google image is your freind Tork

[Torkdiesel]

Originally Posted by pikeslayer22

Google image is your freind Tork

Thanks Pikeslayer
I was more interested in one of the ones a forum member had built.

But I have heard of the Google on the line so I will have a look there too

[South west trappin RG]

To everyone who has posted to help Ken out there is a bigger help for him. I am not a religious guy but, his wife of manny years is having a huge battle with cancer an I think the AO crowd could say a prayer for her. Lil I hope you beat the **** out of the nasty stuff. I know your taking the treatment as hard as you can. I am going to talk to the big guy upstairs.

[Torkdiesel]

Originally Posted by South west trappin RG

To everyone who has posted to help Ken out there is a bigger help for him. I am not a religious guy but, his wife of manny years is having a huge battle with cancer an I think the AO crowd could say a prayer for her. Lil I hope you beat the **** out of the nasty stuff. I know your taking the treatment as hard as you can. I am going to talk to the big guy upstairs.

Our family will be thinking of theirs

[martinnordegg]

Prayers from our family to yours Ken.

[Marty S]

Ken is hoping for a few of these in some way shape or form, this one's kinda low, it's pulling the wire down. My questions... does it have to have the flat area on top so as to prevent a machine from high centering? Next question, how practical would it be to make from logs?

I would imagine that with all the trees in the country the cattle are going to have much better things to scratch themselves on than a contraption on the fence, or will they still rub the thing to death?

[Torkdiesel]

Thanks Marty. I actually had something different in my head.

[DC72]

I built a couple out of logs out in the gap, they were pretty labor intensive but they seemed to work ok. The ranch/feedlot south of Kens line has a bunch made from rough cut lumber that seem to function well.