Strathcona Deer problem

[Snm]

Has anyone ever tried non lethal rounds to scare the deer off?

[Dacotensis]

Originally Posted by Snm

Has anyone ever tried non lethal rounds to scare the deer off?

Umm.
I'm going to guess that would fall under harassment of wildlife?

[G.Barefooter]

Yup. Acreage idiots in Strathcona County.

They have been herded up for a couple of months now. Been about 12 around for the last couple of months pawing the hay fields and 2 -3 moose around as well.

I agree, numbers have appeared to have been way down this fall in he County. Lots of moose by me - more than I ever remember. Whitetails are down. Yotes way up.

[Snowdog]

Originally Posted by Alberta Bigbore

! of the 6 Strathcona county permissions I have... ......see deer eating something like 60 bushells of some kind of feed a day? I think I got that right. Another one has deer eating bales that are sprawled out for his cows.. apparently the deer come and eat, pee and crap on it, and the cattle wont finish it.

In both cases , There is going to be ALOT of 8 foot high fencing going on if that was the solution. lol

I get phoned alot If I can come out and thin them out. I haven't yet. Freezers full anyways

I think she has the same problem

[Snowdog]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Call fish and wildlife and get free fencing, if she needs help putting it up let me know.

LC

from what she told me, there is no F&W fencing anymore

[BigRackLover]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Call fish and wildlife and get free fencing, if she needs help putting it up let me know.

LC

I'll help too.

[Snowdog]

Originally Posted by Dacotensis

Sc is a special place when it comes to acreage dwellers.

Permission is extremely hard to get due to the ppl that come from urban areas and settle in a country setting.

I have had numerous conversations with acreage ppl who have wildlife problems but are not prepared to even entertain hunting with a bow.

It's too bad. Deer end up damaging feed, shrubs or vehicles.

Hillbilly, the deer in your area were herded up in November.
This time of year is nothing special.

Sounds like this lady sure is though.

I live and hunt in this area, they were not in herded up in Nov or I would have taken my 3.

[Snowdog]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

OP's got a great opportunity here. Find her some first nations hunters for now, and then come back and do the job himself next fall. Beauty.

nail on the head.

[7magtime]

Originally Posted by Northwinds

To kind of put this into perspective.......
I am feeding 77 mule deer.These 77 deer are eating about 2.5 lbs of hay per head per day,including wastage.Those 77 deer eat 192 lbs of hay per day.A big hay bale will weigh 2000lbs or 10.38 feed days per bale.I am paying$40.00 per bale. For$1000 can buy 25 bales or 259.5 days of feeding we are at about about 110 days on feed since November.........methinks somebody is stretching the truth a bit unless she has over 200 deer feeding.
NW

Agreed!!!

[Slash8]

Leave em be.

[Dacotensis]

Originally Posted by Snowdog

I live and hunt in this area, they were not in herded up in Nov or I would have taken my 3.

Unless you also sign on here as hillbilly reefer, you misinterpreted my post.

I was referring to his post.
I live and hunt strathcona as well and did in fact see a herd of 20 wt and the same in md.

Why shoot three in strathcona? The numbers are way down compared to numbers 4 years ago and prior.
When you shoot three does, you potentially kill 9 deer.

I'm sure the lady in this thread wouldn't mind that but the acreage owners need to wrap their heads around the idea of allowing hunting regularly.

[1899b]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

Tell your folks I'm coming over for dinner next fall.... With my bow! Oh ya, you and your little bro should come too, it's been a while

There place is for sale!!!! Condo life on the way!!!!

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by 1899b

There place is for sale!!!! Condo life on the way!!!!

Too funny, my folks are selling their place too, they only spend half the year in Canada now anyway.

[Snowdog]

Originally Posted by Dacotensis

Unless you also sign on here as hillbilly reefer, you misinterpreted my post.

I was referring to his post.
I live and hunt strathcona as well and did in fact see a herd of 20 wt and the same in md.

Why shoot three in strathcona? The numbers are way down compared to numbers 4 years ago and prior.
When you shoot three does, you potentially kill 9 deer.

I'm sure the lady in this thread wouldn't mind that but the acreage owners need to wrap their heads around the idea of allowing hunting regularly.

100% with you on acreage (and farm/ranch) allowing regular hunting, I still have 1 neighbour with 80acres and horses who wont allow hunting because he think someone mistake his horses for moose. The moose and beaver have destroyed his fences, deer and moose eat all his hay and the coyotes keep killing his wife's cats, his 80 is a wildlife refuge.

I am seeing groups of 20 or so all over now but back in Nov/dec I could count on 1 hands the # of legal (right place, right time, right gun) I could have taken but passed on. Obviously the population is still there and the tags are still issued, I spoke to an Edmonton F&W office at a charity event last spring about the low strathcona population and why there are still 3 tags issued.....know what he said......"75% of our emails are asking the same thing or the exact opposite (not enough tags), let us (F&W) and AESRD wildlife biologists worry about the populations, we issue the tags so you hunters will harvest the animals.

You can say they have no idea on populations or they are too underfunded to manage the whole province effectively but some one has to say yes or no and I am happy for it to be them. I can choose not to harvest a legal animal but I cant hurl insult and try to take the high moral ground if buddy next to me chooses to take the same animal. The other thread on hunting morals and ethics posters are suggesting that "legal is the ground floor and hunters need to strive to be above that" I say legal is legal anything else is personal choice. The guys I hunt with wont take does, they say it's like hitting a girl, they certainly don't care if I choose to take them, they even help debone.

[6mm rem]

It's more of a waste of hay feeding horses then deer. Sell the nags and buy a quad or move to the city.

[Big Lou]

I live near Hastings Lake and have been winter feeding for the 3rd winter now. It's costing me right around $100/week and I'm more than happy doing it for the poor buggers with the conditions they've had to endure recently. Population is way down for sure. Especially seeing a reduction in the upper age group of bucks the last 2 years.

[G.Barefooter]

I am lucky out there the closest acreage is a mile away. My place borders on a quarter that is owned by the Nature Conservacy and Al Oeming's chunk is just south.

I have been snowshoeing through everything last few weeks - hardly any deer sign. Lots of Yotes though. Me and the dog got 3 on Wednesday evening (Me - 2: dog - 1)

[Red Bullets]

My suggestion for the hayless woman the OP mentions....

It may sound trivial but if she is feeding 100+ deer there is potential for several pounds of shed antlers. Fresh antler can bring 5 dollars a pound. Exceptional sets could sell for a hundred or more. It could offset some of her losses if she picked 30 -40 lbs. of dropped antlers.

[grouse_hunter]

Originally Posted by Snm

Has anyone ever tried non lethal rounds to scare the deer off?

Like a 12ga bean bag hippie blaster? or 12ga Rubber slug