Sellers not knowing conditions ;( update on page 2 with sellers pictures)

[Trochu]

Originally Posted by calgarychef

I see a lot of people calling items mint… they obviously have zero idea of what mint means.

That is my experience as well. Saw a vehicle ad, car was described as "Mint" and then further down in the ad an explanation that the only thing damaged in the minor fender bender was a crack in the bumper.

[calgarychef]

Originally Posted by Trochu

That is my experience as well. Saw a vehicle ad, car was described as "Mint" and then further down in the ad an explanation that the only thing damaged in the minor fender bender was a crack in the bumper.

Mint means… as it came from the factory, zero sear, zero issues.
It many things can be called mint. If it’s a coin, where the saying actually came from that means it’s absolutely pristine.

[Cain32mag]

Mint should be Mint. Like no wears at all. Some people are deceptive when describing their guns for sale. Sorry, bro.

[ram crazy]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

Exactly

Mint is literally perfect..Doesnt exist.

Sure it does! The buyer is just as much at fault. I think they call it buyer be ware!

[58thecat]

Hope it works out for you, you do your best to research a seller, ask for pics( are they of the same rifle), reviews (are they bogus) etc I have bought off this forum and to date no issues at all but I know if I was buying lots on line from various sites sooner or later disappointment would follow....buyer beware...yup....hope that you can work something out.

[Pioneer2]

Originally Posted by Trochu

That is my experience as well. Saw a vehicle ad, car was described as "Mint" and then further down in the ad an explanation that the only thing damaged in the minor fender bender was a crack in the bumper.

In mint condition except for where it had hit a moose! Wasted a 1/4 tank of gas to go see it.

[brewster29]

For those dummies that use the term mint without knowing what it means:

"Mint condition is an expression used in the description of pre-owned goods. Originally, the phrase comes from the way collectors describe the condition of coins. As the name given to a coin factory is a "mint", then mint condition is the condition a coin is in when it leaves the mint. Over time, the term "mint" began to be used to describe many different items having excellent, like-new quality."

The last four words say it all.

"Minty" is how something tastes or smells, like Frog Lube.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by brewster29

For those dummies that use the term mint without knowing what it means:

"Mint condition is an expression used in the description of pre-owned goods. Originally, the phrase comes from the way collectors describe the condition of coins. As the name given to a coin factory is a "mint", then mint condition is the condition a coin is in when it leaves the mint. Over time, the term "mint" began to be used to describe many different items having excellent, like-new quality."

The last four words say it all.

"Minty" is how something tastes.

Minty means mintish. In other words, not mint. Lol

[graybeard]

Some time ago I was reading a gun newspaper that on the 1st or 2nd page there was a "how to value a gun for sale" or something like that.

It broke down the value by condition; mint, excellent, good, fair...etc

For some reason I thought it was in Yellowknife but somewhere up north.

My point being, have AO post it in the sale section, to set a standard?

I will look further.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by graybeard

Some time ago I was reading a gun newspaper that on the 1st or 2nd page there was a "how to value a gun for sale" or something like that.

It broke down the value by condition; mint, excellent, good, fair...etc

For some reason I thought it was in Yellowknife but somewhere up north.

Canadian Access to Firearms maybe?
Cat

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by Pathfinder76

Minty means mintish. In other words, not mint. Lol

I hate that word- I do like a minty flavour though!
Cat

[Dean2]

Originally Posted by graybeard

Some time ago I was reading a gun newspaper that on the 1st or 2nd page there was a "how to value a gun for sale" or something like that.

It broke down the value by condition; mint, excellent, good, fair...etc

For some reason I thought it was in Yellowknife but somewhere up north.

My point being, have AO post it in the sale section, to set a standard?

I will look further.

Cat is correct. It is in the first couple of Pages of the Access Firearms Newspaper.

[PartTimeHunter]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

Mint means just that! same as NIB, means the thing is STILL in the box!
That guy should be selling snake oil
Cat

Then there is the guy on cgn that is selling a bnib rifle. Toward the end of the description is: previous owner only fired 60 rounds. Lol

[freeride]

Originally Posted by Trochu

That is my experience as well. Saw a vehicle ad, car was described as "Mint" and then further down in the ad an explanation that the only thing damaged in the minor fender bender was a crack in the bumper.

I found one like that too! Mint condition, clean car fax... I ran it, the vehicle had an accident worth 15,000, and had a lean on it. The guy just said oh it was nothing.

[freeride]

Originally Posted by PartTimeHunter

Then there is the guy on cgn that is selling a bnib rifle. Toward the end of the description is: previous owner only fired 60 rounds. Lol

Lol, is that one on there now?

[fps plus]

Unfortunately there are some unscrupulous people out there. As the saying goes “buyer beware”.

[Demonical]

Well it sounds like you got worked a bit, I would definitely give the guy a piece of my mind, however...

You now have an "as is" 1978 M700 in 8mm RemMag.

Sounds like you need to buy a nice aftermarket stock, buy some kinda fancy trigger, do a bit of clean-up work and take that thing out for a spring bear hunt.

Sometimes when ya get lemons best thing is to make lemonade.

[Sheepcrazyguy]

One thing I’ve learned in my purchases on this forum “Unfired by me” usually means there a problem with the firearm.

[REMINGTON JIM]

Mint Means to me Perfect no marks no blueing problems and either not fired or very little like maybe 20 rounds ! Guy lied to you JMO RJ

[fps plus]

When he said mint condition maybe he meant the mint the kid had been sucking on and spit out on the car floor boards

[aardvaark]

Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck

I just spewed some beer.....

Shame on you, that’s wasteful…..

[heybert]

Originally Posted by leeelmer

Contacted seller
His words:
Basically brand new, trigger has always looked like that. Its a older production gun, I told you that it wasn’t a new production gun.
I believe its mint shape. I sent you pictures.

Well I have my answer I guess. Caulk it up to next time get better pictures

Did he send you the wrong gun? Newer or older production has nothing to do with condition. You should go back to him and say that the picture he sent was not of the gun you now have since it didn’t show any of the blemishes. Let him know that you will be returning the rifle and expecting a refund.

[Bushrat]

Need to see pictures.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by Bushrat

Need to see pictures.

Exactly.

[leeelmer]

Well put a new Timney trigger in it. and spent 2 hours cleaning the bore( I am not sure if it ever was cleaned properly to get the copper out)
Cleaned up the stock the best I could, and put a bit of cold blue on the worst spots on the barrel.
Took it to the range the other day, well the magnaport works better than I thought, takes away the mussel lift, and there is a definite reduction in recoil.(compared to the 8mm mag I have shot in the past)
Had some old reloads from my past 8mag, not heavy loads, so they chambered well, 200gr Nosler Accubonds. About 1.5 inches at 100yards.
So not terrible
I am going to develop a load with 180Gr Nosler Ballistic tips, and see how it goes. Try out IMR7828 and IMR4831 since I have lots on hand.
Because of the shape on this one, I am not going to worry about sticking it in a saddle scabbard or the odd bump or scratch.
Not exactly what I was expecting out of this gun when I bought it, but not a bunch of choices now. If the barrel develops any rust, I will just get the whole thing cericoated.

[Trochu]

Originally Posted by Sheepcrazyguy

One thing I’ve learned in my purchases on this forum “Unfired by me” usually means there a problem with the firearm.

That could be, but it's certainly not always the case. I recently sold a firearm I'd bought in a group purchase. I live in town, so I have to plan my shooting events, and I didn't have any ammo for that particular gun. I'm not aware of any issues with the gun, just hadn't shot it.

[bushbug]

Obviuosly you didnt do your homework by getting pics so now you know for next .Learn and move on

[Howard Hutchinson]

Originally Posted by bushbug

Obviuosly you didnt do your homework by getting pics so now you know for next .Learn and move on

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Homework? This isn't on the buyer man, this is on the seller. He did not provide pics of the blemishes on the gun, never mind the bent trigger. Bent trigger, how do you even bend a trigger??
The seller should refund the money to the OP, no question in my mind.

[freeride]

Originally Posted by bushbug

Obviuosly you didnt do your homework by getting pics so now you know for next .Learn and move on

Guess you missed this in the first post.....

Pictures were not great lighting, and hid almost everything.
This was on CGN not on here
He had a good trader rating, but I guess I could have asked for better pictures.

[leeelmer]

Here are the pictures the seller sent me.
Am I wrong by these pictures and the seller saying it was “mint” to think it was in next to new shape???