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I agree and I sure as hell dont want him as PM.The Conservatives CANT bash Trudeau as being a slackster pot smoking school teacher....BUT it is the truth
Keep those specific names as CANADIAN please...1 out of 10 with your specific examples means only 1 Canadian Prime Minister was a drunk and John A Macdonald was known to puke during public speaking so he is worse than me LOL
Ahh there you are Ali...forever bitching/defending your position as a unionised city worker.You dont have to worry though.Rob Ford is not and is not running for the Mayor of Calgary.Nenshie is still in charge of things and your socialist pension program that is for the most part paid by TAXPAYERS is going to go on and on.
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First off I don't work for the city of Calgary they farm out what I do and I costs the tax payers more, but besides that I have the pleasure of paying over $6000 a year into this gold played pension that will maybe be there when I retire, and I say if the city of edmonton can pay almost 500 million for an arena for a billionaire they have no room to complain about my meager pension.
As I asked earlier has any independent auditing group ever seconded fords claims of saving the city so much money ? Cause he can say whatever he wants he's a politician after all and not a particularly bright one either I wouldn't believe him as far as I could carry him.
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I simply look to our neighbours to the south and who is running their fruit stand and I'm thankful we have Rob Fords. 
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I simply look to our neighbours to the south and who is running their fruit stand and I'm thankful we have Rob Ford's'. |
Are you saying there's more than one?! 
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Olivia Chow vs Rob Ford.
Ford all the way.
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A liberal or a raging NDP er.
Yup...even with Fords problems he is better than Chow.
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2nd chance? LOL!
Isn't this his 13th 2nd chance?
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought..... 
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07-01-2014, 10:24 PM
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2nd chance? LOL!
Isn't this his 13th 2nd chance?
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It's only ok to be a drug user if you make up numbers that mysteriously saved taxpayers money without verification. If he were a liberal he would be the scum of the earth.
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07-01-2014, 10:28 PM
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If he were a liberal he would be the scum of the earth.
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Glad you said it. I agree completely.
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07-01-2014, 10:33 PM
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Just don't forget this one very important fact folks..this man
kicked his crack problem and is now an accomplished brand
new man and all in seven weeks!
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07-01-2014, 10:51 PM
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Glad you said it. I agree completely.
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Glad to know partisanship is more important than governance to you.
Still waiting for an independant review of Toronto's finances.
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"Still waiting for an independant review of Toronto's finances."
How long has it been since you ordered it? 
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07-02-2014, 06:46 PM
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2nd chance? LOL!
Isn't this his 13th 2nd chance?
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I haven't been keeping count, but you could be right! Who knows, maybe #13 is his lucky number 
Is anyone taking bets on when he'll fall off the wagon?
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"Still waiting for an independant review of Toronto's finances."
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Nobody has done one ? I guess il take the crack heads word for it then. 
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07-02-2014, 07:35 PM
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30 days - he won't make it past August long weekend.
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07-03-2014, 04:26 AM
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30 days - he won't make it past August long weekend.
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Me thinks you have already lost. money + power = need for more(what I call cocoa derivatives as you always want more)
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07-03-2014, 06:56 PM
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30 days - he won't make it past August long weekend.
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He has the advantage of just coming back from spending two months at a rehab facility, so I say that's ^ a bit too soon.
My bet is, he'll fall off the wagon sometime on the Labour Day weekend.
Any other bets?
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The idiot then tweets that he is getting lots of bad feedback due to his transparency, and claims it is because he does not drink coffee.
No you idiot, you are getting lots of bad feedback because you openly break our laws while being an elected member of our government.
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It is not about the "lil herb", but the fact he openly violated our laws as a member of the government.
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Originally Posted by rwm1273
Are you illiterate? It is illegal to have it in your possession. You can't smoke it unless you have it in your hands, which is illegal.
Your comparison to prostitution is invalid. If you choose to give someone money for having sex is technically legal. But you can't walk up to someone and offer them money to have sex, because that is solicitation, and that is illegal.
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I did read it, and he is still guilty by association. He had it in his hands, and that is enough for a conviction in some courts in Canada.
If you and Dave can't comprehend that, try changing the item to something such as child porn. Or some other item that is just as illegal, and you will understand that the law makes no distinction.
"These drugs are illegal because of the harmful effects they have on users -- and on society for that matter. As a government, we have a responsibility to protect the interests of families across this country."
Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-...#ixzz2d9O47eea
And just for the record, here is the law on possession:
Possession
4. (3) For the purposes of this Act,
(a) a person has anything in possession when he has it in his personal possession or knowingly
(i) has it in the actual possession or custody of another person, or
(ii) has it in any place, whether or not that place belongs to or is occupied by him, for the use or benefit of himself or of another person; and
(b) where one of two or more persons, with the knowledge and consent of the rest, has anything in his custody or possession, it shall be deemed to be in the custody and possession of each and all of them.
And since some here seem to have a problem with reading comprehension, this simplifies it somewhat:
Constructive Possession
Constructive possession requires the following:
knowledge of the item
intent/consent to have possession of the item
control over the item
The crown must prove knowledge extending beyond "quiescent knowledge" that discloses some degree of control of the item
Possession can still be established even if it considered the property of some third party.
Constructive possession of drugs found in a suite or house can be established where the accused is shown to have control over a property searched and knowledge that the items were in the place. Even where the accused did not have exclusive control over the place, he can still be found in joint possession of the items. |
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I do understand what you post, but I draw a distinction when it comes to elected members of government and those people who are responsible for upholding the laws of our nation. If JT was still just JT, there would be no issue, however he broke the law and was morally corrupt for breaking the law while being Justin Pierre James Trudeau, MP, leader of the Liberal Party of Canada
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Just because you think a law is unjust, does not give you a right to violate it. The quote I had posted earlier explains why drugs are still illegal in Canada.
"These drugs are illegal because of the harmful effects they have on users -- and on society for that matter. As a government, we have a responsibility to protect the interests of families across this country."
I am not a person who does drugs either, and I don't really see an issue with someone doing some minor drugs in a safe manner. The problem is that those drugs are purchased from people selling it from playgrounds or street corners where my kids play. And those who sell the drugs are not the most moral people.
So until the laws get changed and you can purchase your drugs from proper stores like alcohol, there will still be an element of society that degrades society, and harms neighborhoods.
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It is amazing how equivalent issues can generate such disparate viewpoints.
Smoked a joint--->Morally Corrupt.
Alcoholic who has done every drug in Toronto--->He's a good Mayor.
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Wow.
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It is amazing how equivalent issues can generate such disparate viewpoints.
Smoked a joint--->Morally Corrupt.
Alcoholic who has done every drug in Toronto--->He's a good Mayor.
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I love how you are taking things out of context.
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He's just plain funny but even though he's a junkie he did a lot of good things for toronto
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I think he should be given a second chance. But then, I hate hogtown LOL
Seriously, I'm cool with him going another round IF he has really come clean about everythng. No one needs a lying mayor with skeletons in the closet.
And like Recce, I do have concern about leaders breaking the law and not facing the same penalties other citizens below them have to face. While Ford was toking, his police force was arresting other Torontonians for doing the same thing. That's Leadership?
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Ontario has a lot bigger problems than Ford.Their credit just got downgraded,they are multi billions in the hole.
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i hate toronto , i hope who ever they elect taxes the hell out of them , a little payback for all the liberal votes the give.
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i hate toronto , i hope who ever they elect taxes the hell out of them , a little payback for all the liberal votes the give.
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^^  ^^ good to see pettiness is alive and well at AO
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07-04-2014, 11:18 PM
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its not being petty , i really don't like them, or their center of the universe attitude , or their idiot mayor. and i would also like it if they froze in the dark .
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he did a lot of good things for toronto
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People still think this?
He is a figurehead.
He is the deciding vote in a stalemate. That is all.
He is the spokesperson for the group.
He can not bring new business to council.
You think he personally is responsible for anything good?
Lol.
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People still think this?
He is a figurehead.
He is the deciding vote in a stalemate. That is all.
He is the spokesperson for the group.
He can not bring new business to council.
You think he personally is responsible for anything good?
Lol.
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As long as he's conservative he's ok in here. Who cares if he's a drug addicted guy who threatens people with his power ?. He's Canada's version of Sarah plain and no matter the facts the right wing will defend him til the end.
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its not being petty , i really don't like them, or their center of the universe attitude , or their idiot mayor. and i would also like it if they froze in the dark .
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You are being petty.
Have you ever been there?
How can you say you don't like a few million people you haven't met?
Seems legit
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07-05-2014, 12:29 PM
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Who cares if he's a drug addicted guy who threatens people with his power.. no matter the facts, the right wing will defend him till the end.
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As opposed to recent demoted folk of sober mind
whom bilked the lowly tax payer to their outrageous &
fancyfull vacations with their families & $30G funerals?
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As opposed to recent demoted folk of sober mind
whom bilked the lowly tax payer to their outrageous &
fancyfull vacations with their families & $30G funerals?
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Wow.
You just drove home Ali's point.
Well done.
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Wow.
You just drove home Ali's point.
Well done.
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ummm.. "shhh i know,thanks for the heads up though,
another well done!"
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