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04-06-2022, 08:14 AM
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Cage traps work, there's a meat eater episode (I think) on that.
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04-06-2022, 08:36 AM
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Why not do drives with hounds as done in Europe? I am sure a dozen volunteers would be found. Maybe hounds aren't available?
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04-06-2022, 08:44 AM
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I just can't see how a snare would be effective on a wild boar, those things are tough.
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Common tactic in other countries
I bet a wolf master power snare would make quick work of a hog
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04-06-2022, 08:45 AM
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You can bet that there will be guys in Sask that have buddies in AB cashing in on this, just like the coyote bounties, cross border shopping you know
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04-06-2022, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
In the case of landowners, many just don't want dozens of phone calls every week, or constant trespassing, by people that were either denied permission, or that never bothered to ask. Many would rather have a few people that they know shooting them, and not have to deal with a huge influx of want to be hog hunters.
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I think you are spot on, Elk. In previous years when pig bounties were first implemented, those were among the concerns that were often brought up.
Especially considering that the pigs are more likely to be out and about in the evenings and at night... The odd domestic pig has been shot by mistake as well.
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04-06-2022, 10:03 AM
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I think the landowners near Edmonton that have hogs on their land would have difficulty managing their land once word got out. Kimd of a semi controlled chaos.
I used to hear it a lot. Hunters asking where to go within 1.5 hours of the city. Dont get me wrong, convenience is nice, but .......
Are there hogs within an hour of Edmonton? Yes. Are the hogs "devastating" the crops? Not yet. Are hogs being shot on a consistant basis? Yes. I think the idea of serious control is probably an excellent idea. And a little bounty helps too.
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04-06-2022, 10:14 AM
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$75 bounty is like “If you happened to have shot a pig and want $75, bring the ears”.
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04-06-2022, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by huntinstuff
I think the landowners near Edmonton that have hogs on their land would have difficulty managing their land once word got out. Kimd of a semi controlled chaos.
I used to hear it a lot. Hunters asking where to go within 1.5 hours of the city. Dont get me wrong, convenience is nice, but .......
Are there hogs within an hour of Edmonton? Yes. Are the hogs "devastating" the crops? Not yet. Are hogs being shot on a consistant basis? Yes. I think the idea of serious control is probably an excellent idea. And a little bounty helps too.
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A friend works with a guy whose family owns land close to Edmonton, and he showed me trail cam pictures of several hogs on the property. He told me that they are keeping it quiet, because it's already bad enough dealing with so many people during hunting season, and trespassing has become a huge issue.
Another friend owns land by Niton Junction, and we shot dozens of hogs after the hunt farm closed many years ago, but within a few years, they disappeared, and we never saw any sign since. And again, they get more inquiries to hunt, and trespassing is also an issue.
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04-06-2022, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
A friend works with a guy whose family owns land close to Edmonton, and he showed me trail cam pictures of several hogs on the property. He told me that they are keeping it quiet, because it's already bad enough dealing with so many people during hunting season, and trespassing has become a huge issue.
Another friend owns land by Niton Junction, and we shot dozens of hogs after the hunt farm closed many years ago, but within a few years, they disappeared, and we never saw any sign since. And again, they get more inquiries to hunt, and trespassing is also an issue.
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Yes. Its the trespassing that is the issue. Some people have this notion that if land isnt fenced, it's accessible.....
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04-06-2022, 11:42 AM
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Yes. Its the trespassing that is the issue. Some people have this notion that if land isnt fenced, it's accessible.....
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Some people have the notion that if the land is fenced... it's accessible.
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04-06-2022, 11:54 AM
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Yes. Its the trespassing that is the issue. Some people have this notion that if land isnt fenced, it's accessible.....
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Absolutely - Some of those people have moved here from jurisdictions where that is the case, and they simply assume that the same rule is true here. Or they are being accompanied/hosted/mentored by someone who makes the same assumption.
I always encourage new hunters (and new-to-Alberta hunters) to brush up on the regs.
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04-06-2022, 12:04 PM
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some people have the notion that if the land is fenced... It's accessible.
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04-06-2022, 01:29 PM
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Quote:
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Some people have the notion that if there is land... it's accessible.
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Fixed. That’ll cover them all
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04-06-2022, 02:09 PM
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Most hunters would shoot the wild pigs to add to their freezer with or without the bounty. My wife asks a few times a year “ do you know a place we can hunt pigs yet “?
The issue is locating them and getting permission
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04-06-2022, 02:32 PM
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Mine too
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The worst part is we have both seen them so now she thinks I can go find them like deer lol
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04-06-2022, 03:07 PM
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The worst part is we have both seen them so now she thinks I can go find them like deer lol
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You can't??
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04-06-2022, 03:42 PM
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I would be more interested in trying to find them if I don’t already butcher several domestic pigs for the freezer. I still wouldn’t mind shooting one with my .303 just to I have done it, bounty or no bounty.
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04-06-2022, 03:48 PM
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You can't??
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All were seen on private property well driving and never seen again
No permission either
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04-06-2022, 05:57 PM
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04-06-2022, 09:07 PM
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04-06-2022, 10:06 PM
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Why not do drives with hounds as done in Europe? I am sure a dozen volunteers would be found. Maybe hounds aren't available?
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Different access laws. In Europe the landowners are paid by the hunt clubs.
And it doesnt do any good either. Shooting one pig makes the rest that much smarter and more nocturnal. You have to trap the whole bunch at once to get rid of them
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If you did let people on your land to shoot pigs, would it be legal to tell them to give you the ears in trade for the access?
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04-06-2022, 10:53 PM
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The internet really is one of the worst things to have ever happened to hunting.
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04-07-2022, 08:50 AM
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The internet really is one of the worst things to have ever happened to hunting.
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So true. And in so many ways.
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Different access laws. In Europe the landowners are paid by the hunt clubs.
And it doesnt do any good either. Shooting one pig makes the rest that much smarter and more nocturnal. You have to trap the whole bunch at once to get rid of them
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You bait them they will come back the next night. They here that feeder spin their coming. I've shot lots of hogs....in Texas. After the shots the survivors bolt twice as fast as a whitetail...gonzo in a flash. Back the next night. I agree about the traps they work good.
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04-07-2022, 07:23 PM
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Wasn’t the previous bounty more money?
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No it was 50$ the last time
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04-07-2022, 08:12 PM
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No it was 50$ the last time
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For some reason I thought it was $200
75 isn’t a big incentive but it’s better than nothing I guess
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04-08-2022, 08:14 AM
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Common tactic in other countries
I bet a wolf master power snare would make quick work of a hog
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I'm sure there is a way! I was thinking snaring them around the neck would be difficult given how they touch everything with their nose. I figured it would just cause the snare to trip and then they go about their day. Maybe a bait site with footholds would work?
If anyone snares a hog, I'd love to see the setup.
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04-08-2022, 09:03 AM
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I'm sure there is a way! I was thinking snaring them around the neck would be difficult given how they touch everything with their nose. I figured it would just cause the snare to trip and then they go about their day. Maybe a bait site with footholds would work?
If anyone snares a hog, I'd love to see the setup.
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Just like snaring anything it’s likely just a matter of loop height and size. Snaring anything is a bit of an art
I know they are snared by both the neck and foot. Actual foot holds would be a poor choice as they are not designed to hold hooves and the pig would pull out
Odds are if you want to learn about this you need to talk to guys in states like Texas. They do seem to use cage style traps that catch multiple pigs mostly
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Anyone on here ate boar meat???
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