Alberta Power Grid Alert

[Scott h]

Originally Posted by FCLightning

Like I said, the added bonus would be that we would meet our goals for ZERO emissions. Just like Sweden. No need for scrubbers or any other fancy technology.

I think if you look into Sweden you'll find they do use the most up to date scubbers available. They also ship in waste from out of country as its turned from a problem to a clean energy source. Alberta could do the same only to the next level considering it's already running carbon capture ability.

[FCLightning]

Originally Posted by Scott h

I think if you look into Sweden you'll find they do use the most up to date scubbers available. They also ship in waste from out of country as its turned from a problem to a clean energy source. Alberta could do the same only to the next level considering it's already running carbon capture ability.

Yes, Sweden does use scrubbers, but that is not the reason they are a "low emission" country. They get a pass on any emissions from burning garbage whether they use scrubbers or not - all garbage burning is zero-rated emissions. They also bring in garbage from other countries and do not burn domestic garbage - do you know why that is? There is nothing "clean" about burning garbage in any way, shape or form... but it would solve our "carbon emissions" on the world stage.

[walking buffalo]

Originally Posted by Smoky buck

B.C. and Alberta are very different when it comes to generating power. B.C. has far more hydro electric between dams and run of the river projects. Alberta just doesn’t have the water ways to even consider it. Completely different challenges based on the resources available comparing the two is provinces is not even worth the effort

When you bring up wind and solar these projects exist but lack production. Not near as viable as some would like to believe. Might as well start relying on unicorn farts to power the grid

Now what might be worth considering is generating electricity through wood pellet plants like is being done in Europe. It’s supposed to be “carbon neutral” by “green energy “ standards even. Presently we are actually producing wood pellets from by products for this purpose and shipping them to Europe. We all ready produce the fuel to run these plants here in Canada

Originally Posted by Scott h

Absolutely both provinces are different. What many don't seem to acknowledge is that a lot of electricity is sold to BC fom Alberta, (most during high wind or bright sun, of which Alberta has a lot of). That electricity enables BC hydro to slow the water run through turbines at the many dams in the province. That water being held back can then produce electricity to supply either province (and western states) depending on need at other times of the year.
Investing in grid improvements is may be expensive, but compared to the alternatives it's pretty cheap.
I completely agree with you on the wood pellet issue, and I've always thought that incinerating waste makes a lot more sense. With modern tech, and Albertas ability to capture carbon it seems a bit of a win, win.

It takes Olympic level mental gymnastics to transform cutting down the forest for electricity into a large scale ecofriendly green technology.

Trudeau wants to plant trees to capture carbon, and others suggest cutting down the trees to lower carbon output.
Others recognize that carbon is not the problem.....

Spend a bit of time researching the environmental impact in removing "Waste wood" for this purpose, or the subsequent need to use forests dedicated to producing wood pellets.
Or converting more crop land from food production into pellet farms.
It's not pretty for the forest or for wildlife. But who cares right, if it gives ya the right vibe.
Such deforestation will require turning vast areas into pure monoculture agricultural lands, tree farms.
These lands will require fertilizers as the soils become depleted.
But the "green" movement says fertilizers are bad.
Oh well, screw biodiversity and sustainability.


Trucking and Shipping wood around the world to produce "green" electricity.
Doesn't that instinctually set off alarm bells?

[Au revoir, Gopher]

Information gleened from https://www.dispatcho.app/assets

Blackspring Ridge (BSR1)
Highest Maximum Capability for a wind plant in Alberta (300 MW).
It consists of 166 wind turbines.

36.4% Capacity in the last year
43.9% Capacity in the last month


Travers (TVS1)
465 MW solar installation - the largest in Canada!
It's located on 1348 hectares of privately owned land,
around 8km southwest of the Village of Lomond, in Vulcan County.

24.9% Capacity in the last year
9.9% Capacity in the last month


Shepard (EGC1)
Largest natural gas-fired power plant in Alberta.
It is located in southeast Calgary, has a maximum capability of 868 MW

81.8% Capacity in the last year
86.1% Capacity in the last month

Based on that, why would anyone invest in solar here? Wind might work as a make you feel better supplement, but it is not reliable enough to use as a main source of power.

ARG

[HyperMOA]

Originally Posted by Scott h

Maybe not the world, but certainly from most of Canada. No end of power, and no end of carbon credits means no carbon tax......

We paid 3rd world countries to take our plastic trash; and we weren’t the only ones. Those countries would pay to ship us their waste plastic too.

[2 Tollers]

Originally Posted by Au revoir, Gopher

Based on that, why would anyone invest in solar here? Wind might work as a make you feel better supplement, but it is not reliable enough to use as a main source of power. ARG

Contracts signed under the NDP for solar and wind were capacity contracts nothing for correction on generation.

[YAFORDDIESEL]

http://ets.aeso.ca/


fyi

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

It takes Olympic level mental gymnastics to transform cutting down the forest for electricity into a large scale ecofriendly green technology.

Trudeau wants to plant trees to capture carbon, and others suggest cutting down the trees to lower carbon output.
Others recognize that carbon is not the problem.....

Spend a bit of time researching the environmental impact in removing "Waste wood" for this purpose, or the subsequent need to use forests dedicated to producing wood pellets.
Or converting more crop land from food production into pellet farms.
It's not pretty for the forest or for wildlife. But who cares right, if it gives ya the right vibe.
Such deforestation will require turning vast areas into pure monoculture agricultural lands, tree farms.
These lands will require fertilizers as the soils become depleted.
But the "green" movement says fertilizers are bad.
Oh well, screw biodiversity and sustainability.


Trucking and Shipping wood around the world to produce "green" electricity.
Doesn't that instinctually set off alarm bells?

That is touched on in the documentary "Planet of the Humans"
A must watch
Why are we talking about burnng trees and garbage when we have lifetimes of coal and natural gas? It's a wonder this country is so messed up. Good god

[Smoky buck]

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

It takes Olympic level mental gymnastics to transform cutting down the forest for electricity into a large scale ecofriendly green technology.

Trudeau wants to plant trees to capture carbon, and others suggest cutting down the trees to lower carbon output.
Others recognize that carbon is not the problem.....

Spend a bit of time researching the environmental impact in removing "Waste wood" for this purpose, or the subsequent need to use forests dedicated to producing wood pellets.
Or converting more crop land from food production into pellet farms.
It's not pretty for the forest or for wildlife. But who cares right, if it gives ya the right vibe.
Such deforestation will require turning vast areas into pure monoculture agricultural lands, tree farms.
These lands will require fertilizers as the soils become depleted.
But the "green" movement says fertilizers are bad.
Oh well, screw biodiversity and sustainability.


Trucking and Shipping wood around the world to produce "green" electricity.
Doesn't that instinctually set off alarm bells?

I was running equipment receiving that material for this purpose for 4 years and have two family members that still work for the company in B.C. doing the same

What was coming in was by product for lumber/plywood production and in some plants logging waste mostly tops. This is not cutting tree’s for this purpose

I can tell you this for a fact as I has directing over a 100 truck loads a day for this purpose. I knew every location the product was coming from too

Yup trucking is an issue and no I don’t think it’s amazing green energy. Production of the pellets are already taking place we just export it instead of using it domestically

Sorry you are a little off in your thinking

[HyperMOA]

Originally Posted by MountainTi

That is touched on in the documentary "Planet of the Humans"
A must watch
Why are we talking about burnng trees and garbage when we have lifetimes of coal and natural gas? It's a wonder this country is so messed up. Good god

Just for the record, I think coal should absolutely be burned. I come from Estevan, home to the cleanest coal plant in the world, well it used to be, not sure if it still is. However, I don't see why we wouldn't burn plastics for energy too. They used to be natural gas and oil and they just get buried in a landfill regardless.

[outofbounds]

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SMR Summit coming to Calgary, all those with irons in fire on eastern SMR development will be in attendance.
Two provincial utilities are taking a hard look at SMR development, NB Power and Sask Power.

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