Neck of cartridge broke while reloading

[slough shark]

Hey guys I have a question for you, I was reloading some 30-06 shells last night and I had the neck of the cartridge break off in the die while I was depriming it. Not sure why that happened as I had put on some lube but that’s beside the point, how would I get the neck out of the die as it is stuck in there.

[bat119]

Try putting it the freezer overnight brass should shrink more the the die metal, use a wood dowel to push it out.

Just a guess

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by bat119

Try putting it the freezer overnight brass should shrink more the the die metal, use a wood dowel to push it out.

Just a guess

That should work, even if the dowel is a bit to large ot may even work better to force the neck out. I have never encountered this before, just whole cases stuck or separated cases in chambers.
Cat

[densa44]

Hi Cat; I'm glad that I can help. I am the record holder for stuck cases. If the whole shell is in there cut it off so that it is even with the die. Then I just threaded the inside of the stuck case, found a lond bold that would engage the stuck case. I put a socket the correct size so that it just touched the edge of the die, ran the bolt through the hole in the socket, and if the bolt was too long I used washers for filling the gap. Then I just put a wrench on the bolt and turned, the case will back out!

Please make a note, this is the only time I knew something that Cat didn't.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by densa44

Hi Cat; I'm glad that I can help. I am the record holder for stuck cases. If the whole shell is in there cut it off so that it is even with the die. Then I just threaded the inside of the stuck case, found a lond bold that would engage the stuck case. I put a socket the correct size so that it just touched the edge of the die, ran the bolt through the hole in the socket, and if the bolt was too long I used washers for filling the gap. Then I just put a wrench on the bolt and turned, the case will back out!

Please make a note, this is the only time I knew something that Cat didn't.

Umbrella. I meant whole cases stuck in the die , Bob!
Most guys havecenought sockets, eastern, small bolts and appropriate taps I'm yheir garage to never warrant spending the big bucks for a RCBS stuck case remover! LOL
Cat

[Dick284]

Remove the expander ball from the die, take a can of keyboard dusting spray, hose the neck portion of the die with the keyboard duster with the can upside down, then do the wooden dowel from the top side towards the bottom of the die.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by densa44

Hi Cat; I'm glad that I can help. I am the record holder for stuck cases. If the whole shell is in there cut it off so that it is even with the die. Then I just threaded the inside of the stuck case, found a lond bold that would engage the stuck case. I put a socket the correct size so that it just touched the edge of the die, ran the bolt through the hole in the socket, and if the bolt was too long I used washers for filling the gap. Then I just put a wrench on the bolt and turned, the case will back out!

Please make a note, this is the only time I knew something that Cat didn't.

If the entire case is stuck, DO NOT cut off the case, instead drill and tap the primer pocket, it's easier, and has more support than the cut off case. But this is a different situation, with just the neckin the die, I would warm up the outside of the die, then use freeze spray on the inside of the neck, it should then be easy to remove. The freeze spray we use has a straw to concentrate the spray.

[fps plus]

If the neck of the brass is the only thing broken off and stuck it will be in there quite tight . It will be a bit of a challenge to remove , I would pour a cast and drive it out .

[slough shark]

Wow good to know it isn’t an incredibly uncommon occurrence, I’ll try a few of these options, here’s hoping it goes well

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by slough shark

Wow good to know it isn’t an incredibly uncommon occurrence, I’ll try a few of these options, here’s hoping it goes well

In 50 years of loading, I have never seen it happen. I have removed a few stuck cases for friends, but I haven't seen just the neck in the die.

[huntinstuff]

Pitch the whole thing in the garbage and buy a new one.
I wouldn't give it more than 52 minutes of my time. Dick with it a bit and if it isn't out, log into Amazon..
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[slough shark]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

In 50 years of loading, I have never seen it happen. I have removed a few stuck cases for friends, but I haven't seen just the neck in the die.

Not sure why or how it happened, it was a brand new die because my old one had been damaged in moving and I just got my gun room setup. It was maybe the 5th cartridge I was depriming. Either way I tried the freezer trick first and that allowed me to knock it out.so success!!!

[huntinstuff]

Originally Posted by slough shark

Not sure why or how it happened, it was a brand new die because my old one had been damaged in moving and I just got my gun room setup. It was maybe the 5th cartridge I was depriming. Either way I tried the freezer trick first and that allowed me to knock it out.so success!!!

Good!

Throwing it in the garbage is ecologically unsound anyways.....

[Shooty]

This sounds like excessive headspace issue.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by Shooty

This sounds like excessive headspace issue.

Excessive headspace affects the case head not the case neck.

[Dmay]

Originally Posted by Shooty

This sounds like excessive headspace issue.

How?

[Dick284]

This is a case of old brass, and work hardening, and or poorly checked brass, coupled with insufficient or improper case lube and its use.

Headspace issues result in web area failures!

How much dick dorking around vs just plain old getting a new die, needs to be considered.

[fps plus]

I may suggest it maybe time to buy some new brass .

Use some graphite on the necks before resizing

[Pathfinder76]

It’s probably just Winchester brass. Lol

[slough shark]

Originally Posted by Pathfinder76

It’s probably just Winchester brass. Lol

It actually was Winchester brass, when you’re right you’re right lol.

[slough shark]

Originally Posted by Dick284

This is a case of old brass, and work hardening, and or poorly checked brass, coupled with insufficient or improper case lube and its use.

Headspace issues result in web area failures!

How much dick dorking around vs just plain old getting a new die, needs to be considered.

I’m not sure how old it is, I unfortunately don’t have a system set up to keep track of how many times it’s been reloaded, I’d guess maybe a couple times as I started reloading maybe a couple years before I started a family and my shooting slowed down. I’m going to keep track of all new brass brought in so that I can track these things, at some point in time my shooting will probably ramp back up once kids get into it more.

[Shooty]

Originally Posted by Dmay

How?

There were some discussions on this problem previously:
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=131546

I have experienced the case head separation with 2 guns. Both of them have excessive headspace. Bump the shoulder plus neck size only mitigated the issue.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Shooty

There were some discussions on this problem previously:
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=131546

I have experienced the case head separation with 2 guns. Both of them have excessive headspace. Bump the shoulder plus neck size only mitigated the issue.

This was not case head separation, it is an entirely different situation.

[Dmay]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

This was not case head separation, it is an entirely different situation.

Exactly. Case head separation happens at the opposite end of the cartridge. Nothing to do with the neck. Totally different topic from OP's issue.