The RCMP has lost 205 firearms since 2020, including 3 submachine-guns

[bat119]

Good grief no word how many have showed up in crimes

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police has lost 205 firearms since 2020, including more than 120 handguns and at least five fully automatic weapons like machine-guns.

The data, which was obtained through an access to information request, also shows that nearly a dozen RCMP firearms have gone missing so far this year.

In total, 122 handguns, 55 shotguns, 23 rifles, three submachine-guns and two machine-guns have been reported lost by RCMP detachments across the country since 2020. Canadians are largely prohibited(opens in a new tab) from using or acquiring machine-guns and submachine-guns, which are fully automatic and capable of rapid fire.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/the-rc...guns-1.7044619

[elkhunter11]

Meanwhile the RCMP are working with the liberals to disarm Canadians, because we supposedly can't be trusted with firearms. How about the RCMP clean up their own house first?

[urban rednek]

Pssst! Not a single one of the prohibited firearms were "lost".

A thorough internal investigation will not find any evidence of wrongdoing, and certainly will not result in charges. Procedural issues will be blamed, and they will work to address them so this doesn't happen again...until the next time.

[Twisted Canuck]

The RCMP lost firearms, but that's not a problem because they have so many. No, the real threat to Public Safety is civilian firearm ownership, like it says right at the end. Like a punchline.

[W921]

Of course they wouldn't be selling them (sarcasm)
Are these their service guns or guns that were confiscated?
Years ago Dartmouth and Halifax police had a reputation and not just for shaking down prostitutes in patrol cars

[jstubbs]

Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck

The RCMP lost firearms, but that's not a problem because they have so many. No, the real threat to Public Safety is civilian firearm ownership, like it says right at the end. Like a punchline.

Reads like a Monty Python skit.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by jstubbs

Reads like a Monty Python skit.

Of course it does, it was written by a woke eastern professor. What else would you expect?

[FishOutOfWater]

Originally Posted by W921

Years ago Dartmouth and Halifax police had a reputation and not just for shaking down prostitutes in patrol cars

That's because they were negligent and left the guns in the car/SUV unattended and sometimes in plain sight. And they were being targeted because of it.

[jungleboy]

I am pretty sure that if I lost a firearm and reported that it was lost, the very first thing they would do is charge me with unsafe storage of said firearm and it would be my problem to prove my innocence .

[FishOutOfWater]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Of course it does, it was written by a woke eastern professor. What else would you expect?

I guess the woke western professors were too lazy and complacent to write anything... Gun control is no different on either side of the country.

[roper1]

Replace them, the RCMP I mean.........

[Coiloil37]

Originally Posted by jungleboy

I am pretty sure that if I lost a firearm and reported that it was lost, the very first thing they would do is charge me with unsafe storage of said firearm and it would be my problem to prove my innocence .

Yea… as it’s says;

“The bigger threat to public safety in Canada is the theft or loss of privately owned firearms”.

When RCMP firearms are stolen (even automatic ones) they’re not dangerous so what’s the crime? If yours were stolen you clearly failed to keep those dangerous, often malevolent firearms safe and thus must be punished and made an example of.

[Twisted Canuck]

Originally Posted by Coiloil37

Yea… as it’s says;

“The bigger threat to public safety in Canada is the theft or loss of privately owned firearms”.

When RCMP firearms are stolen (even automatic ones) they’re not dangerous so what’s the crime? If yours were stolen you clearly failed to keep those dangerous, often malevolent firearms safe and thus must be punished and made an example of.

Exactly. If it saves one life....

[MountainTi]

"Do as I say and not as I do" seems all too common within groups in a position of "authority"

[Au revoir, Gopher]

These weapons were designed for one purpose and one purpose only: to kill the largest number of people in the shortest amount of time," Trudeau said.

When exactly did "kill the largest number of people in the shortest amount of time" become the mandate of the police?

I know there are units that should be armed with fully automatic firearms... but if they can't keep track of them, maybe not.

ARG

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Au revoir, Gopher

When exactly did "kill the largest number of people in the shortest amount of time" become the mandate of the police?

I know there are units that should be armed with fully automatic firearms... but if they can't keep track of them, maybe not.

ARG

That is another way to look at it, if the RCMP can't even keep track of their fully automatic firearms, then perhaps they shouldn't have them? Just think of what could happen if one of those misplaced fully automatic weapons ended up in the hands of criminals.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Not machine guns… patrol carbines

LC

[6.5 shooter]

Give them all walking sticks, seems that would be a lot less dangerous to the public at large.

[58thecat]

When it comes to public safety, Brown says the number of lost or stolen civilian firearms in Canada is a far greater concern. In 2022 alone, there were 2,086 theft incidents where at least one firearm was stolen, down from 2,196 in 2021, according to Statistics Canada. In 2022, stolen firearms were used in at least eight homicides.
"With millions of firearms in circulation in Canada, there is bound to be some that are stolen, despite Canada's safe storage rules," Brown said. "The RCMP should be held to a very high standard in terms of safeguarding its firearms, but the bigger threat to public safety in Canada is the theft or loss of privately owned firearms."

Just goes to show you criminals come from all walks of life.

[barsik]

some of those firearms may have indeed been lost but I think quite a few found their way into a safe hiding spot.

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

Just goes to show you criminals come from all walks of life.

Yup. Consequences for some criminals, no consequences for other criminals.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

When it comes to public safety, Brown says the number of lost or stolen civilian firearms in Canada is a far greater concern. In 2022 alone, there were 2,086 theft incidents where at least one firearm was stolen, down from 2,196 in 2021, according to Statistics Canada. In 2022, stolen firearms were used in at least eight homicides.
"With millions of firearms in circulation in Canada, there is bound to be some that are stolen, despite Canada's safe storage rules," Brown said. "The RCMP should be held to a very high standard in terms of safeguarding its firearms, but the bigger threat to public safety in Canada is the theft or loss of privately owned firearms."

Just goes to show you criminals come from all walks of life.

So there are 30,000 RCMP, and 39,000,000 Canadian civilians , so 2000 per year by civilians is not a much greater rate, odd given that the RCMP firearms should be more
secure, seeing as how they are in police control. So perhaps legal Canadian firearms owners are not really the problem after all?

[bat119]

[QUOTE=58thecat;4751687" Brown said. "The RCMP should be held to a very high standard in terms of safeguarding its firearms, but the bigger threat to public safety in Canada is the theft or loss of privately owned firearms[/QUOTE]

How many privately owned machine guns were lost?
How does a submachine go missing ?

I’d like to see the reports of how these items go missing not exactly like losing a set of keys

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by bat119

How many privately owned machine guns were lost?
How does a submachine go missing ?

I’d like to see the reports of how these items go missing not exactly like losing a set of keys

You would think fully automatic firearms would have extra levels of security, yet they still went missing, how is that possible? Then again the same AR based rifle is a patrol carbine when issue to police, and yet it is an assault style weapon, when in the hands of a civilian.Our firearms laws are not based on common sense, they are the result of an anti firearm liberal agenda, promoted by the liberal media.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

You would think fully automatic firearms would have extra levels of security, yet they still went missing, how is that possible? Then again the same AR based rifle is a patrol carbine when issue to police, and yet it is an assault style weapon, when in the hands of a civilian.Our firearms laws are not based on common sense, they are the result of an anti firearm liberal agenda, promoted by the liberal media.

Common sense is based on one’s perspective on any given situation so that being said it’s all over the place.


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[58thecat]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

So there are 30,000 RCMP, and 39,000,000 Canadian civilians , so 2000 per year by civilians is not a much greater rate, odd given that the RCMP firearms should be more
secure, seeing as how they are in police control. So perhaps legal Canadian firearms owners are not really the problem after all?

All I was saying is criminals come from all walks of life.


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[58thecat]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

Yup. Consequences for some criminals, no consequences for other criminals.

So true!


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[antmai]

Well, they have to be good at something