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06-07-2023, 08:06 AM
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Whats your two top ideas to stop the Russia War
Its time to but a stop to this .
He is just another Hitler . He needs to be stopped before he goes to the next country .
1) It just takes one message . Just get all the other NATO countries together and say stop now or we all attack Russia at once
2) Just need to put a bounty on his head ,and his own men will turn on him . Let the next Loto Max go to the cause .
50/50 split will get things rolling .
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06-07-2023, 08:14 AM
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I just want to know where all the money that has gone to Ukraine has ended up. As for stopping a war? You got me.
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06-07-2023, 08:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by -JR-
Its time to but a stop to this .
He is just another Hitler . He needs to be stopped before he goes to the next country .
1) It just takes one message . Just get all the other NATO countries together and say stop now or we all attack Russia at once.
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The issue being, Russia has nuclear weapons. If the bluff was called, and lets say NATO was to attack, are you certain that Russia wouldn't use them?
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Originally Posted by -JR-
2) Just need to put a bounty on his head, and his own men will turn on him. Let the next Loto Max go to the cause .
50/50 split will get things rolling.
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Pretty sure putting an international hit on someone is illegal, secondly, no politician wants to set that precedent, as they could be next, thirdly, whats to say they actually get paid? If some sketchy Russian approached you with that deal, would you be stepping up to the plate?
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06-07-2023, 08:32 AM
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nato and usa and others are to blame
2 eastern Ukraine provinces or states wanted to join back to Russia and Ukrainian would not hold the vote for them even though it was over 90 % of them wanted to leave and go back home
Ukraine has been top 5 corrupt for decades
Best man at my wedding is Ukrainian and we are still best of friends
facts are facts
USA blew up Nordstrom
sad world of misinformation boys and girls
NATO to withdraw some stuff would help
agreed war has gone on way to long
a good war helps the usa defence contractors and corruption to the USA senators
sad sad world
solutions are difficult for all countries
many other world countries also want it to continue
pay off all your debt now if you can and worry about your personal situation first
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06-07-2023, 08:38 AM
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It’s war and clearly Russia feels it was worth the risk to attack Ukraine. I am pretty sure the risk of NATO getting involved was assessed and clearly Putin is not deterred by this.
It’s pretty obvious NATO doesn’t want to get directly involved for a reason we likely will never know(we can all guess though lol). They have been throwing money at Ukraine and providing weapons non stop. They seem content at funding Ukraine and trying to hurt Russia economically
Pretty sure if tossing out a bounty would be effective it would already have been done as it would likely be cheaper than providing weapons to Ukraine
There is a lot missing in the story of this dispute and we will only hear what they
War is horrible, it usually takes years, and often never truly ends disputes. There is no magical fix and involving more countries doesn’t solve it but instead just escalates the situation
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06-07-2023, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Pathfinder76
I just want to know where all the money that has gone to Ukraine has ended up. As for stopping a war? You got me.
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Yep...me too.
As to the question, they have been fighting for decades and decades, without any ideas how to stop. Nobody really cared then. Why the concerns now?
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06-07-2023, 09:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pathfinder76
I just want to know where all the money that has gone to Ukraine has ended up. As for stopping a war? You got me.
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Lots of money is under control by businesses and countries that are involved with WEF.
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06-07-2023, 09:11 AM
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Tucker Carlson just did a twitter 10 minute video and part of it was on the blowing up of the dam
interesting to say the least
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06-07-2023, 09:25 AM
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Re-Elect Trump. American support will stop immediately. American Neo-Cons (those that support endless wars) heads will burst. End of war. Negotiations with Russia will commence. Also more negotiations wth North Korea will continue. Simple stop Neo-Cons from bringing in WW3. However I don’t think Neo-Cons will allow Trump back in the leadership position. Expect assignation attempts, should he win Republican nomination.
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06-07-2023, 09:27 AM
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"If Ukraine stops fighting they will loose their country, if Putin stops fighting the war is over"
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06-07-2023, 09:29 AM
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A solution needs to be negotiated to end the war, it would have to be a solution that both sides are unhappy with. Ukraine would lose some territory and and Russia would not gain as much as they would like. If Ukraine wants Russia to totally pull out and abandon everything, the war will go on indefinitely. Stopping the conflict should be first priority. There is plenty of other chaos and death and destruction happening in the world that nobody cares about, why does one conflict get our undivided attention and unlimited asssistance while others are ignored?
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06-07-2023, 09:30 AM
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Putin Apologist?
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Originally Posted by Cement Bench
nato and usa and others are to blame
2 eastern Ukraine provinces or states wanted to join back to Russia and Ukrainian would not hold the vote for them even though it was over 90 % of them wanted to leave and go back home
Ukraine has been top 5 corrupt for decades
Best man at my wedding is Ukrainian and we are still best of friends
facts are facts
USA blew up Nordstrom
sad world of misinformation boys and girls
NATO to withdraw some stuff would help
agreed war has gone on way to long
a good war helps the usa defence contractors and corruption to the USA senators
sad sad world
solutions are difficult for all countries
many other world countries also want it to continue
pay off all your debt now if you can and worry about your personal situation first
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Putin apologist?
Facts are indeed facts but some story saying the US blew Nordstrom is not factual. It may be true but it has not been conclusively determined who blew Nordstrom. When you have the facts, please tell us whose facts these are; and
Alternate facts: https://www.international.gc.ca/worl....aspx?lang=eng
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06-07-2023, 09:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cement Bench
nato and usa and others are to blame
2 eastern Ukraine provinces or states wanted to join back to Russia and Ukrainian would not hold the vote for them even though it was over 90 % of them wanted to leave and go back home
Ukraine has been top 5 corrupt for decades
Best man at my wedding is Ukrainian and we are still best of friends
facts are facts
USA blew up Nordstrom
sad world of misinformation boys and girls
NATO to withdraw some stuff would help
agreed war has gone on way to long
a good war helps the usa defence contractors and corruption to the USA senators
sad sad world
solutions are difficult for all countries
many other world countries also want it to continue
pay off all your debt now if you can and worry about your personal situation first
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If 90% of the people voted to return to Russia.then whos fighting the war? 10%?
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06-07-2023, 09:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish along
If 90% of the people voted to return to Russia.then whos fighting the war? 10%?
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He said 90% in two eastern provinces/states, so, presumably, the 10% in those two states and the remainder of the country.
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06-07-2023, 09:46 AM
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I don't know where you guys are getting your news but I'm no fan of Putin. Seems like Putin and whole regime is big trouble here. Nobody wins in a war but Russia is getting their ass kicked.
Best shot for peace is to respect borders. Russia needs to go home. I'm happy Putin is losing. Sends strong message to others .
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06-07-2023, 09:51 AM
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06-07-2023, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Stinky Buffalo
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Probably worth a shot lol
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06-07-2023, 10:00 AM
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1. Parachute Trudeau directly onto the Kremlin grounds to lecture Putin.
2. Parachute Freeland directly onto the Kremlin grounds to lecture Putin.
If that fails to stop the war, still a big win for Canada.
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06-07-2023, 10:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AxeMan
1. Parachute Trudeau directly onto the Kremlin grounds to lecture Putin.
2. Parachute Freeland directly onto the Kremlin grounds to lecture Putin.
If that fails to stop the war, still a big win for Canada.
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I say double down and run both of your plans at once
Really let’s get a petition going to push for this to happen
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06-07-2023, 10:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AxeMan
1. Parachute Trudeau directly onto the Kremlin grounds to lecture Putin.
2. Parachute Freeland directly onto the Kremlin grounds to lecture Putin.
If that fails to stop the war, still a big win for Canada.
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Yup.
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06-07-2023, 10:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AxeMan
1. Parachute Trudeau directly onto the Kremlin grounds to lecture Putin.
2. Parachute Freeland directly onto the Kremlin grounds to lecture Putin.
If that fails to stop the war, still a big win for Canada.
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Is there a link to the GoFundMe site to sponsor this initiative?
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06-07-2023, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Stinky Buffalo
Is there a link to the GoFundMe site to sponsor this initiative?
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Yes, but I think we have all donated already:
https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency.html
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06-07-2023, 10:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CNP
Putin apologist?
Facts are indeed facts but some story saying the US blew Nordstrom is not factual. It may be true but it has not been conclusively determined who blew Nordstrom. When you have the facts, please tell us whose facts these are; and
Alternate facts: https://www.international.gc.ca/worl....aspx?lang=eng
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With all do respect- did you actually read this? It’s laughable! They said-he said scenario! I spoke to a family of Ukrainians who escaped Mariuple six month ago. I asked them who to believe. Here is what they said: we have been fed so much BS here that it’s not even funny! They said that back then when they were in Mariupol, Russian news were about 75% true and Ukrainians were about 20% true…. I didn’t expect that!
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06-07-2023, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by lmtada
Re-Elect Trump. American support will stop immediately. American Neo-Cons (those that support endless wars) heads will burst. End of war. Negotiations with Russia will commence. Also more negotiations wth North Korea will continue. Simple stop Neo-Cons from bringing in WW3. However I don’t think Neo-Cons will allow Trump back in the leadership position. Expect assignation attempts, should he win Republican nomination.
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Absolutely agreed! Stop the money flow and the war will die down almost immediately.
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06-07-2023, 10:41 AM
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That sums it up…
PS. Full disclose: I hate Putin, he should’ve been removed from powers at least 10 years ago…
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06-07-2023, 10:42 AM
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We were at war with Russia the second we sent support to Ukraine.
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06-07-2023, 10:50 AM
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And do not forget another issue- Russia is creating a coalition with China, North Korea, Iran and few others not so friendly states. That is a really bad news!
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06-07-2023, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by KGB
And do not forget another issue- Russia is creating a coalition with China, North Korea, Iran and few others not so friendly states. That is a really bad news!
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While the West depletes its finances, oil reserves and weapons inventory.
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06-07-2023, 11:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KGB
With all do respect- did you actually read this? It’s laughable! They said-he said scenario! I spoke to a family of Ukrainians who escaped Mariuple six month ago. I asked them who to believe. Here is what they said: we have been fed so much BS here that it’s not even funny! They said that back then when they were in Mariupol, Russian news were about 75% true and Ukrainians were about 20% true…. I didn’t expect that!
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Spoke at length with a Ukranian who got out, he is a corporate advisor to the franchise I work for. He basically reiterated what you have said. He says we should feel sorry for the ordinary people who are caught in this no fault of their own. On the other hand he says decades of corrupt Ukraine leadership including Zelensky have brought this on. Part of the problem he says is the media always picks a victim and a bully, they have placed Zelensky's corrupt regime as victim and Putin as the evil warmonger when they are both guilty liars. Ukraine has been persecuting, arresting, murdering officials and waging economic war on the former Russian states in Ukraine who have wanted to seperate from Ukraine for nearly 2 decades, the history of which goes much further back than that. Zelensky is a snake in the grass and so is Putin, both of whom should be executed for war crimes.
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06-07-2023, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Bushrat
Spoke at length with a Ukranian who got out, he is a corporate advisor to the franchise I work for. He basically reiterated what you have said. He says we should feel sorry for the ordinary people who are caught in this no fault of their own. On the other hand he says decades of corrupt Ukraine leadership including Zelensky have brought this on. Part of the problem he says is the media always picks a victim and a bully, they have placed Zelensky's corrupt regime as victim and Putin as the evil warmonger when they are both guilty liars. Ukraine has been persecuting, arresting, murdering officials and waging economic war on the former Russian states in Ukraine who have wanted to seperate from Ukraine for nearly 2 decades, the history of which goes much further back than that. Zelensky is a snake in the grass and so is Putin, both of whom should be executed for war crimes.
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Probably the most realistic scenario ^^
Like you mentioned this is really the general public caught in between to corrupt governments
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