Alberta agriculture minister mandated to fight federal fertilizer policies

[IronNoggin]

Alberta agriculture minister mandated to fight federal fertilizer policies

Alberta Premier Danielle Smith has mandated the province’s Minister of Agriculture and Irrigation Nate Horner to push back against the federal government’s fertilizer emission reduction scheme.*

Included in Horner’s mandate letter are specific instructions to push back against the plan first introduced by the Trudeau government in 2020.

“We must proactively protect Albertans from continued federal government overreach, including hostile economic policies that landlock our provincial resources, that chase billions in investment and thousands of jobs from our province, and that are detrimental to the short-term and long-term prosperity of Albertans,” wrote Smith.*

“Continue to advocate on behalf of Alberta farmers and ranchers by identifying and pushing back on federal programs that hinder the advancement of production or improvement of yields to better supply Albertans and the world with food.”

Smith cited “fertilizer reductions, carbon taxes on fuel and natural gas for farms and equipment, Port of Vancouver access problems” as examples of said policies.*

Alberta is the latest province to fight back against Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s arbitrary fertilizer targets.*

Earlier this month, Saskatchewan Justice Minister Bronwyn Eyre said her province was worried that the federal Liberals might implement mandates related to fertilizer use on the agricultural-dependent province.*

“We’re concerned that as in so many areas— methane, clean electricity regulations, the carbon tax — it very, very, very quickly becomes not a partnership of equals, not working together but a dictation about compulsory measures, which absolutely harm the province and the ag sector, which is the most sustainable of any ag sector in the world,” said Eyre.*

“We’re concerned about the signals that are being sent about the fertilizer reduction and potential mandates in that area.”

Eyre made the comments in reference to the Saskatchewan First Act which would lessen federal government regulatory meddling.*

Additionally, legislators in Manitoba have moved to call on the federal government to abandon the policy at a time of high fertilizer costs and uncertain food supply.*

https://tnc.news/2022/11/19/alberta-...ture-minister/

[Stinky Buffalo]

With these pushbacks and challenges to the federal directives, I wonder which lengths our federal leaders will go to, to push their agenda?

This could be a bigger thorn in the Liberal's side than the trucker convoy was.

[IronNoggin]

Originally Posted by Stinky Buffalo

This could be a bigger thorn in the Liberal's side than the trucker convoy was.

I sure as hell hope so!!!

[Bigwoodsman]

Originally Posted by Stinky Buffalo

With these pushbacks and challenges to the federal directives, I wonder which lengths our federal leaders will go to, to push their agenda?

This could be a bigger thorn in the Liberal's side than the trucker convoy was.

Originally Posted by IronNoggin

I sure as hell hope so!!!

x2

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[huntinstuff]

One would think if you needed a person to give educated thought to a specific issue, you would find such a person

Yet in government, you can be some makeup plastered teleprompter reader and become thr Queens representative for the second largest country on the planet

Or, you could be an eco nut and become a cabinet minister

Or an old burned out hippy and become the leader of a political party

We rarely see the best person getting the job.

I believe this year was the most expensive crop input year ever. Food shortages and some idiot figures fertilizer is the problem......or cows farting......

When you are born, you get a ticket to the Freak Show.
If you are born in North America, you get a front row seat.......

GC. Rip

[cody j]

Originally Posted by Stinky Buffalo

With these pushbacks and challenges to the federal directives, I wonder which lengths our federal leaders will go to, to push their agenda?

This could be a bigger thorn in the Liberal's side than the trucker convoy was.

Freezing bank accounts

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by cody j

Freezing bank accounts

Scariest thing I have seen in my lifetime. Rarely gets talked about.

[Grizzly Adams1]

Smith's Alberta first policy definitely has merits, think Manitoba passed a similar bill recently.

Grizz

[esher]

Go girl, finally some backbone in alberta.

[59whiskers]

Originally Posted by cody j

Freezing bank accounts

Bad enough when the House Of Commons MP’s refused to speak with and listen to protestors. Freezing Bank Accounts ratchets Anger up to another level. Confiscating financial assets is Communism and may result in a civil war. Hope and Pray it never happens.

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by 59whiskers

Bad enough when the House Of Commons MP’s refused to speak with and listen to protestors. Freezing Bank Accounts ratchets Anger up to another level. Confiscating financial assets is Communism and may result in a civil war. Hope and Pray it never happens.

We are close to the point where that is the only way to straighten out this mess. Pretty good hunch I know what side will win....

[CDNOutdoorsman]

keep the ammo cabinet full...

[6.5 shooter]

"Texas of the North" suits me just fine.

[Bigwoodsman]

A lot of fertilizer coming out of Ottawa.

Hope the minister has his waders on!

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[KegRiver]

Originally Posted by 59whiskers

Bad enough when the House Of Commons MP’s refused to speak with and listen to protestors. Freezing Bank Accounts ratchets Anger up to another level. Confiscating financial assets is Communism and may result in a civil war. Hope and Pray it never happens.

The rose colored glasses are gone, I hope.

We think our government works for us, they don't, they never did.

The more money, the more power, the greater the greed and corruption. It's as simple as that.

Laws only work on the law abiding and that includes government officials all the way to the top.

We think laws protect us, they don't. Anyone, even a prime minister can break any law they want, the only question is, will they get away with it.

For the average Joe, chances are he won't, there are the police and the courts to keep us in check, but who keeps the people in charge of those police forces and courts in check?
Not the police or the courts, they are the employees of, not the employers of those at the top.

That's the reality of the situation.

We think our votes keep those at the top in check. To a degree that is true, but only to a small degree.

Elections can be stolen, either by lying about the opposition or by vote manipulation.

We think it can't happen but it's a mistake to underestimate the ingenuity of the criminal mind.

For every law that has been written someone has figured out a way to defeat or evade that law.
We see it every day in how illegal drugs are transported and sold and how illegal firearms are acquired and used.

If a drug pusher can figure out a way around the law you had better know a politician can as well.
If he can't figure out a way around a law that gets in his way he can always rewrite that law to provide the loophole he needs.

There is always a vulnerability no one has noticed, a loophole no one saw.

It has always been that the only thing that keeps anyone in check is personal integrity. Or fear of getting caught.
It never was and never will be the law.

The higher up the ladder you go, the lower the chances are of getting caught and the greater the chance is that even if caught you won't have to pay for your crimes.
That is how the world works.

Politicians depend on empty promises, misinformation (about the oppositions intentions), and out right lies to win and hold positions of power.
If we did that it would be considered fraud.

Why would anyone think they wouldn't break any law that gets in their way!!!!

[NCC]

Danielle Smith’s plan to ally with Saskatchewan and Manitoba to build a transportation and utilities corridor to a deep water port in Hudson Bay might actually get us from under the Fed’s thumb.

[Grizzly Adams1]

Originally Posted by NCC

Danielle Smith’s plan to ally with Saskatchewan and Manitoba to build a transportation and utilities corridor to a deep water port in Hudson Bay might actually get us from under the Fed’s thumb.

That "deep water" port on Hudson's Bay is only useable about 4 months of the year. Pie in the sky.

Grizz

[Big Grey Wolf]

We now have 8 billion people to feed and idiots think it can be done without fertilizer.

[Fish along]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1

That "deep water" port on Hudson's Bay is only useable about 4 months of the year. Pie in the sky.

Grizz

With the ice breakers we have today its not a pie in the sky,ice lanes can be open full time.

[st99]

you missed the part where they clearly said that they want to reduce the world population to 500 millions, no better way to do it than by starvation

Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf

We now have 8 billion people to feed and idiots think it can be done without fertilizer.

[Sloughsharkjigger]

Originally Posted by Fish along

With the ice breakers we have today its not a pie in the sky,ice lanes can be open full time.

Bad investment… give it a few years and global warming will allow a sturdy 14’ tinner with a 20hp kicker into the Hudson in the middle of January.

[6.5 shooter]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1

That "deep water" port on Hudson's Bay is only useable about 4 months of the year. Pie in the sky.

Grizz

Guess you never heard of global warming? or is it cooling? or is it just climate change? I am so confused

Churchill will become the port of the North and it scares the centralist to death.

[Au revoir, Gopher]

Originally Posted by NCC

Danielle Smith’s plan to ally with Saskatchewan and Manitoba to build a transportation and utilities corridor to a deep water port in Hudson Bay might actually get us from under the Fed’s thumb.

A while ago I asked about why it wouldn't be possible to build a pipeline to Curchill (legit question, I know nothing about building pipelines). The biggest problem seems to be all the lakes along the path. Maybe we should take a page from Warren Buffet's book and buy the rail line to Churchill. As far as I know it isn't operational since the American company that bought it abandoned it a few years ago. Seems like a win-win; Churchill gets train service back and we get to ship crude internationally.

ARG

[Drewski Canuck]

The financial commitments made in Premier Danielle Smith's address to Albertans will cost Alberta a significant amount of money, and that is obvious.

BUT WAIT!!!

There is a source of government money that Alberta could tap into, and it would not cost Albertans ONE CENT!!

(Curious?)

During the last economic boom, every Come from Away Worker paid their Provincial Income tax to their home province.

Given the 25 days in, 10 day out rotations, every month Provinces as far away as Newfoundland received a windfall in Provincial Income Tax.

Alberta got NOTHING for the wages made on our non renewable resources that paid other Canadians' wages.

Of course there could be inter provincial agreements with Provinces that respect Alberta's vision and policies. But Provinces like British Columbia and Quebec, well lets just say that their workers could move here if they don't like the Alberta Provincial Income Tax.

By the way, if out of province workers relocate here, that would mean that they spend their money here! There would be increased business opportunities for everything from groceries to housing!! Gee I wonder what the tax multiplier to Alberta would be from all that money?

Anyways, just saying that there would be a solution to the funding problem. But no one ever listens to me anyway.

Drewski

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by Drewski Canuck

The financial commitments made in Premier Danielle Smith's address to Albertans will cost Alberta a significant amount of money, and that is obvious.

BUT WAIT!!!

There is a source of government money that Alberta could tap into, and it would not cost Albertans ONE CENT!!

(Curious?)

During the last economic boom, every Come from Away Worker paid their Provincial Income tax to their home province.

Given the 25 days in, 10 day out rotations, every month Provinces as far away as Newfoundland received a windfall in Provincial Income Tax.

Alberta got NOTHING for the wages made on our non renewable resources that paid other Canadians' wages.

Of course there could be inter provincial agreements with Provinces that respect Alberta's vision and policies. But Provinces like British Columbia and Quebec, well lets just say that their workers could move here if they don't like the Alberta Provincial Income Tax.

By the way, if out of province workers relocate here, that would mean that they spend their money here! There would be increased business opportunities for everything from groceries to housing!! Gee I wonder what the tax multiplier to Alberta would be from all that money?

Anyways, just saying that there would be a solution to the funding problem. But no one ever listens to me anyway.

Drewski

I wouldn't even want to guess how many years it's been since I've been saying that.
TFW's need to be paying provincial taxes to Alberta on monies made here

[Bigwoodsman]

Originally Posted by MountainTi

I wouldn't even want to guess how many years it's been since I've been saying that.
TFW's need to be paying provincial taxes to Alberta on monies made here

I've been wondering the same thing. Been saying this isn't right since the late '90's. Keep that revenue in Alberta. But like Drewski said, no one listens. Back in the day Stockwell Day was my MLA, and I would right him regularly suggesting this. Never got one letter back, nor did I get a phone call.

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