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03-01-2022, 08:45 AM
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Lakes with no gas motor signage?
If your boat has a gas motor can you still fish those lakes. As long as you are not using the gas motor. Can it be on your boat? Just looking for clarity on the rules for this summer.
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03-01-2022, 09:06 AM
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My understanding is it applies to the vessel itself and not just the motor, so if a gas motor is on your boat, it is a gas powered vessel and would not be allowed, even if not under power at the time.
I would call for confirmation in this instance.
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03-01-2022, 09:47 AM
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03-01-2022, 10:35 AM
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I just leave my outboard out of the water. I don't pull the gas tank out or take the motor off. I used my skid steer to install my outboard on my SSV-16 and it's "permanently" bolted on. I haven't come across a CO yet mind you.
I think the rule is in place mostly on small trout lakes, where people ripping around with an outboard could cause havoc with belly boaters, kayakers, and canoeists. Any environmental argument doesn't really make sense as people often drive on or use ATVs on them in the winter and/or use gas powered augers to punch holes in them to ice fish.
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03-01-2022, 02:05 PM
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Leave the motor and the boat it is attached to at home.
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03-01-2022, 10:40 PM
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So I called Fish and Wildlife and inquired and was informed that it is not their signage and it belongs to Alberta Parks. So it is not inforced by them. Tomorrow I’ll call Alberta Parks and get some clarification.
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03-01-2022, 10:41 PM
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As far as I am concerned and my interpretation of the wording at least, As its written. You can not us a gas motor, It does not say that you cannot us a boat with a gas motor attached. It should be irrelevant if you have a gas motor on the boat or not, as long as you are not using it.
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03-02-2022, 09:00 PM
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Talked to a young F&W officer at Dolberg about a month ago and he said he can't stop you from having a gas powered motor installed, but you just just can't use it.
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03-03-2022, 07:34 AM
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You need to be careful about that though, I did see F/W ticket to a guy on Beaver lake who had a motor on a tinny. Chatting him with afterward it was not for the motor but for dripping gas into the lake.
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03-03-2022, 07:50 AM
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My thought on this is just remove the motor, why even give a day on the water the chance to not be enjoyable?
But there’s always that person and then when things go south they get all twisted up when right from the get go they had the simple stupid solution....
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03-03-2022, 08:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 58thecat
My thought on this is just remove the motor, why even give a day on the water the chance to not be enjoyable?
But there’s always that person and then when things go south they get all twisted up when right from the get go they had the simple stupid solution....
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And if oars are the method for power, the motor removed makes it just that much more manageable/lighter.
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03-03-2022, 08:12 AM
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I'm not sure about Alberta, but in BC as long as you're not 'under power' by a gasoline motor in a restricted lake, you're good to go. I was severely harassed at a small lake in BC, for this, and the campground host called F&W to report me - and he was corrected by them. When stopped at a boat check in BC where there were F&W conservation officers present, I asked them the same question, and got them to email me the answer, so I could print it, and carry it with me. It doesn't have to be 'up' and out of the water - just not running.
In many areas, I'm not about to leave my Honda 9.9 lying in the back of my pick-up truck, unattended, while I'm out on the water fishing for the day.
There's a very popular BC fishing show that has shown a well known (now retired) Provincial biologist, fishing in a lake with restrictions, using an electric trolling motor, and the gasoline outboard in the 'up' position and under a cover tarp.
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03-03-2022, 09:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 58thecat
My thought on this is just remove the motor, why even give a day on the water the chance to not be enjoyable?
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If you've ever mounted an outboard with 3M 4200 or 5200 you'd have your answer.
I really think this subject is being over thought by people that just have a strong opinion one way or the other, but really don't know the answer other than some hearsay.
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03-03-2022, 10:55 AM
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I've called for the very same thing for Maligne wanting to use my bow mount electric. The answer was the same as others - it is fine in the up position for your gas motor. The F&W office did add though that other anglers may not appreciate it. No chance either I'm removing my 90 HP outboard for a day or two of fishing. In the end, I thought about it but stuck with the tinner, as always, and electric motor. Just not worth it for me. Not to mention the bow mount is really only good for short distances so I would be limited largely to home bay. meh...
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03-03-2022, 11:57 AM
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I got a canoe and kayak just to have the ability to hit lakes with restrictions and not fart around removing an outboard....the 25 yammy I got is the limit I’d say to so called portable
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03-03-2022, 01:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 58thecat
I got a canoe and kayak just to have the ability to hit lakes with restrictions and not fart around removing an outboard....the 25 yammy I got is the limit I’d say to so called portable
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There you, I'm with Cat on this one. We always need an excuse to buy a new boat... A drifter would be ideal
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03-04-2022, 05:48 PM
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no gas motors means no gas powered to propel your vessel. You can still have on the boat but not a good idea to have dipped in the water(spillage of oil and gas) If it says no motors allowed then nothing ( gas or electric) HOARSE only (oars) Get a canoe or a 12 ft aluminum with at least 8 ft oars. Great exercise. Been there done dat lots
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