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11-08-2019, 07:50 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Calgary, Ab
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Just a reminder to tag your deer
So I was dropping my deer off yesterday morning at a butcher in Calgary. There was a guy filling out his order in front of me. We end up around back unloading our deer at same time.
This guy (new to Ab, I would say Qc from accent) that was in front had his tag sitting on tailgate folded on wire not attached to animal, one hind quarter missing, no tail, no evidence of sex. The butcher would not accept it even though the guy said missing evidence was in garbage bag in truck.
Butcher then showed him my deer, clean, tagged, sex still attached and said thats how to do it.
The guy said he didn’t know about how to tag or what/how to leave sex on or that he aven had too.
Shout out to Ryan’s for sticking to the rules and sending guy to Calgary Fish and wildlife to sort out the untagged deer.
Not sure what happens but might not be good for other hunter.
Tullfan
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11-08-2019, 08:06 AM
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And people get mad when they ask questions and are told to go read the regs...
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11-08-2019, 08:08 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Edmonton, AB
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We have a massive issue people not reading or seemingly caring about the regulations. This wouldn't help with the latter but I've always felt that part of the Hunter's Ed should be open book where you have to respond to questions by navigating the regulations for the answers.
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11-08-2019, 08:08 AM
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Location: Communist state
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No excuse for not knowing the laws, I hope he loses his license for a couple years, give him time to freshen up on the laws.
On a side note, those chicken chit tags they hand out here are absolute garbage, especially when dealing with big animals like moose and elk. You tag it in the bush but by the time you drag it out you have the tag ripped off and have to rework the tag back on. I even heard a guy in the gas station brag how to reuse the tags, that sure ticks a guy off. There has to be a better system, like where you have to not only tag your animal but notch out your license.
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11-08-2019, 08:09 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Look behind you :)
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Years ago I ran into another hunter had a chat, he said he helped two older guys load a cow moose into a van...I pointed out there was no general or draw season for cow moose there, showed him the regs. He just helped two poachers load a moose into their van. He was dumbfounded.
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11-08-2019, 08:11 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurt505
No excuse for not knowing the laws, I hope he loses his license for a couple years, give him time to freshen up on the laws.
On a side note, those chicken chit tags they hand out here are absolute garbage, especially when dealing with big animals like moose and elk. You tag it in the bush but by the time you drag it out you have the tag ripped off and have to rework the tag back on. I even heard a guy in the gas station brag how to reuse the tags, that sure ticks a guy off. There has to be a better system, like where you have to not only tag your animal but notch out your license.
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I skin up into the hock of the animal (make a small pocket) and tuck the tag up under the hide after it’s affixed. I also put a twist in the wire before affixing the tag. Takes the pressure off the plastic portion. It hasn’t failed us yet!!
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11-08-2019, 08:33 AM
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poor guy sounds like a big miss understanding .
Last edited by last minute; 11-08-2019 at 08:54 AM.
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11-08-2019, 08:58 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Edmonton Ab
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Originally Posted by last minute
poor guy sounds like a big miss understanding .
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Lmfao! Aaaand here we go again
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11-08-2019, 09:10 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: My House
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Oh for the days of metal tags. I hate these ski tags. Pure garbage.
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11-08-2019, 09:13 AM
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I can't feel sorry for the people that can't be bothered to learn even the most basic regulations. They are not victims, they are just lazy.
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11-08-2019, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by last minute
poor guy sounds like a big miss understanding .
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Lol, He actually said he didn’t know he had to do any of that. Ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law.
Anyhoo. Ill see if anything came of it when I get my deer.
Tullfan
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11-08-2019, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by sns2
Oh for the days of metal tags. I hate these ski tags. Pure garbage.
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Yes the current tags are garbage, but it seems to be about making the tags as cheaply as possible, with no thought as to making them durable enough to not be easily damaged in the field.
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11-08-2019, 09:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sns2
Oh for the days of metal tags. I hate these ski tags. Pure garbage.
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Exactly my cousin got his bull the other day we had to go back and look for the tag it fell off a hundred yards down the trail. The old metal ones never came off unless you cut them.
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11-08-2019, 09:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurt505
No excuse for not knowing the laws, I hope he loses his license for a couple years, give him time to freshen up on the laws.
On a side note, those chicken chit tags they hand out here are absolute garbage, especially when dealing with big animals like moose and elk. You tag it in the bush but by the time you drag it out you have the tag ripped off and have to rework the tag back on. I even heard a guy in the gas station brag how to reuse the tags, that sure ticks a guy off. There has to be a better system, like where you have to not only tag your animal but notch out your license.
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I tag mine then tape the tag right to the leg before I drag the critter out- works great, but I sure like the old metal tags!
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11-08-2019, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by catnthehat
I tag mine then tape the tag right to the leg before I drag the critter out- works great, but I sure like the old metal tags!
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I have wrapped the leg with a plastic bag, and taped over it, to make sure it stays on, but that would not be necessary with proper tags.
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11-08-2019, 09:52 AM
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I pick up a non res tag for Ontario and was handed a sheet of paper off a copier, she said cut your tag out of the sheet.I started laughing thinking this is the worst of the worst I ever seen.
The stores carry no tags, it's just gets printed off and given to you plus a copy to your email.
I got the sheet laminated as soon as I got home.250 bucks for a sheet of paper.i bet you lostsa guys will get there's wet or torn up.Plus it's really thin paper.
I do what ELK11 does that way it's protected much better.
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11-08-2019, 11:21 AM
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Location: Red Deer, Alberta
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Wonder if it was the same guy we ran into a long time ago in 416 when we filled our special draw bull tag. We had just started cleaning when he and another french guy rolled up on a quad (early in the morning with guns on the quad), and started helping my hubs clean it. One of them started wretching a bit while the other said to him in french "See, that's how it's done my friend" They were not the only ones driving around on a quad hunting before 12 pm.
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11-08-2019, 11:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMX
Exactly my cousin got his bull the other day we had to go back and look for the tag it fell off a hundred yards down the trail. The old metal ones never came off unless you cut them.
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There is a bit of rose coloured glasses here waxing nostalgically about the metal tags. They were notorious for not locking properly or people half closing them so that they could be reused and you could claim, "I tried locking it, must not have pushed hard enough"
And the cost to make the darn things would be outrageous. I have not had a tag rip or come off, bit of a pain in the cold but wrap them or tuck them under the hide.
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Attention Anti Hunters
Sit back
Pour yourself a tea
Watch us "sportsmen" attack each other and destroy ourselves from within.
From road hunters vs "real hunters" to bowhunters vs rifle hunters, long bows and recurves vs compound user to bow vs crossbow to white hunters vs Native hunters etc etc etc
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Enjoy the easy ride, anti hunters. Strange to me why we seem to be doing your job for you.
Excuse me while I go puke.
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11-08-2019, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Donkey Oatey
There is a bit of rose coloured glasses here waxing nostalgically about the metal tags. They were notorious for not locking properly or people half closing them so that they could be reused and you could claim, "I tried locking it, must not have pushed hard enough"
And the cost to make the darn things would be outrageous. I have not had a tag rip or come off, bit of a pain in the cold but wrap them or tuck them under the hide.
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For every system in place there will be someone trying to circumvent it.
Personally I never ever had an issue with those metal tags but I sure have lost tags on walleye and white tails before I wised up and fool proofed them!
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11-08-2019, 11:52 AM
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Proof of sex is ridiculous. What a stupid rule. No person who poaches an animal is going to take it to a butcher!!!
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11-08-2019, 12:17 PM
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Location: Ontario
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Ontarios tag system
Sign in online. Print an 8.5x11 paper. Cut out tag roughly 3" x4" size. Notch date and time and month and attach to deer ear or antler...
We have 3 deer, one is paper zip tied to antler, other is paper tapped to antler, last is paper in a zip lock bag that we zipped tied to antler.
In all seriousness, what are they thinking telling people to use regualar printer paper.
Charge us 3.00 more and mail us the peel and stick plastic paper tags that we used to have...
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11-08-2019, 01:00 PM
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Well, they work great on walleye! Why wouldn't they work dragging big game back to the truck?
Garbage is an understatement, how about a .10 cent ziptie and a plastic tag?
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11-08-2019, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tullfan
Lol, He actually said he didn’t know he had to do any of that. Ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law.
Anyhoo. Ill see if anything came of it when I get my deer.
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Sounds like he is old and Confused poor guy its Tough when age creeps up on you!
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11-08-2019, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
I I also put a twist in the wire before affixing the tag. Takes the pressure off the plastic portion. It hasn’t failed us yet!!
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I'm totally taking this, great idea!
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11-08-2019, 02:21 PM
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Am I the only one who struggles immensely with these tags when it’s really cold out?
Last two tags I’ve put on were so bad from my shaking hands that I would be extremely embarrassed if they ever were checked lol.
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11-08-2019, 03:20 PM
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Cold hands, blood, hair.
Yep a few of mine have been folded like a kindergartener did it. With one hand. Riding a horse.
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11-08-2019, 04:58 PM
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So now, taking your trim to the butcher for saysage is illegal?
Or to get it ground?
Or deboning a quarter and taking it in to get jerky made up?
Or it always was?
Then probably all of us over our hunting carrears have broken the law.
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11-08-2019, 05:30 PM
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triple check
I know a guy that legally got a moose tag after many years of waiting, shot it tagged it etc. They wrapped it in a plastic tarp up for transport and brought it to the butcher. Unloaded it rolled up the tarp through it in the truck and off they went home. Next day CO's show up and informs them the moose has been confiscated for not tagging it....hunter was in shock, they searched the tarp and sure enough the tag got stuck to the plastic....in the end no charges and no moose, but got to have tag soup!
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11-08-2019, 05:56 PM
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Our tag system is horrendous. Tag and licence should be the same piece of paper. Cut the tag when you harvest your game and done.
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11-08-2019, 06:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Black
So now, taking your trim to the butcher for saysage is illegal?
Or to get it ground?
Or deboning a quarter and taking it in to get jerky made up?
Or it always was?
Then probably all of us over our hunting carrears have broken the law.
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The regs state something about the tag remaining on until the carcass is taken to the place of butchering. I do my own but I take in the trim to get sausage made. I’ve never had a problem with showing my folded tag with my trim. I’m sure that this is iaw the law.
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