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05-16-2018, 01:18 PM
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Front Rest
Impulse control was deactivated and I bought this Farley Coaxial front rest from a friend. Lots of learning ahead but it should help tighten groups up a tickle. It came with this “sporter” bag, as well as a wide/flat bag for BR stocks. (Yes, total loss of control and I also bought one of his BR stocks.). I am a “sporter” guy so will likely use the BR stock infrequently, but know it will help seeing differences with proper set-up.
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05-16-2018, 02:36 PM
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WOW, I didn't know you could spend 2k on a rest ... until just now!
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05-16-2018, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by darren32
WOW, I didn't know you could spend 2k on a rest ... until just now!
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Welcome to the bench rest world....2 grand is merely the beginning.....
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05-16-2018, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by darren32
WOW, I didn't know you could spend 2k on a rest ... until just now!
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That's just one of the reasons I can't afford to play anymore.
Wait till you see a rail gun.
http://accurateshooter.net/Blog/visalrail02x600.jpg
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05-16-2018, 06:03 PM
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Haven’t seen him play with it for several years but he has/had a rail gun. When I was test driving the rest, and made a comment about how complicated it was to do a proper set-up...to which his reply was “a rail gun is much worse”.
I got the Farley because it was surplus to his needs as he had upgraded to a SEB.
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05-16-2018, 06:58 PM
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Haven’t seen him play with it for several years but he has/had a rail gun. When I was test driving the rest, and made a comment about how complicated it was to do a proper set-up...to which his reply was “a rail gun is much worse”.
I got the Farley because it was surplus to his needs as he had upgraded to a SEB.
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People would be surprised how many rail guns there are around Alberta. Pretty sure I know your friend....
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05-16-2018, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bushrat
People would be surprised how many rail guns there are around Alberta. Pretty sure I know your friend....
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05-16-2018, 09:00 PM
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Figured it was.
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05-16-2018, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 260 Rem
Haven’t seen him play with it for several years but he has/had a rail gun. When I was test driving the rest, and made a comment about how complicated it was to do a proper set-up...to which his reply was “a rail gun is much worse”.
I got the Farley because it was surplus to his needs as he had upgraded to a SEB.
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You got the better end of the deal.SEB neo and Farley about the same when set up right. Regular seb not even close. I’ve owned and shot off of both
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05-17-2018, 07:28 AM
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Interesting, looks like at some point it ceases to be about shooting ability .... maybe I could be a contender LOL.
Thanks for the link
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05-17-2018, 08:45 AM
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Interesting, looks like at some point it ceases to be about shooting ability .... maybe I could be a contender LOL.
Thanks for the link
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Anybody could be a contender but its all about shooting ability. As time has passed and bench gun innovation has made the guns they use quite equal in ability to shoot the bullets all into the same hole under perfect conditions. The ability to read winds and environmental conditions then compensate correctly for their effect on a bullets flight and hopefully land 5 of them into what looks like only one bullet struck the target is what separates the men from the boys in this shooting discipline. The difference between winning and losing is often measured in thousandths of an inch difference in group size. Short Range Benchrest competition can be extremely frustrating yet equally rewarding. It takes a special breed of masochist.
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05-17-2018, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by darren32
Interesting, looks like at some point it ceases to be about shooting ability .... maybe I could be a contender LOL.
Thanks for the link
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I used to think that...all the equipment and the way the guns are set up...BR is easy.
Then I tried a friends setup at the range.
Pretty embarrassing.
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05-17-2018, 08:57 AM
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Thanks for the info guys. Very neat equipment for sure.
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05-17-2018, 09:24 AM
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This is what I use instead of my cut denim filled with sand. Ordered it on amazon.
I still use a sock filled with dry beans for a rear bag
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05-17-2018, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by darren32
Interesting, looks like at some point it ceases to be about shooting ability .... maybe I could be a contender LOL.
Thanks for the link
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I know this comment is in jest so I am not directing this at you in anyway.
However, this sentiment is repeated in every shooting discipline. Once the gun meets the base level of accuracy (which in my world is .75-1.00 MOA) it all falls down to the shooter.
The groups laid down in the BR world are nuts. The attention to detail in loading and prep are impressive.
Nice front rest!
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05-17-2018, 09:58 AM
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I also purchased one of his “old” BR stocks, which I plan to lean to use ... and then use it to work up loads on barrels that fit my S action Barnards. No doubt it will take some “learning” but I think in the end, will help me better understand how rifles perform ...
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05-17-2018, 10:17 AM
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Front Rest
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Originally Posted by 260 Rem
Impulse control was deactivated and I bought this Farley Coaxial front rest from a friend. Lots of learning ahead but it should help tighten groups up a tickle. It came with this “sporter” bag, as well as a wide/flat bag for BR stocks. (Yes, total loss of control and I also bought one of his BR stocks.). I am a “sporter” guy so will likely use the BR stock infrequently, but know it will help seeing differences with proper set-up.
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Is a joy stick now in common use in benchrest competition? I have an older front rest without the joy stick---got it years ago from a retired competition shooter.
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05-17-2018, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryan.M.Anderson
I know this comment is in jest so I am not directing this at you in anyway.
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Thanks for picking up on that
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05-17-2018, 11:06 AM
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Interesting all that money on the gun and he still has an old fixed Weaver scope mounted on top......Cheese don't they know you need a new, shiny....NF, S&B or the Hubel telescope mounted on that thing or you will never hit the target??
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Trades I would interested in:
- Sightron rifle scopes, 4.5x14x42mm or 4x16x42mm
especially! with the HHR reticle. (no duplex pls.)
- older 6x fixed scopes with fine X or target dot.
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05-17-2018, 11:28 AM
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Thanks for picking up on that
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Just so you know...I knew your comment was in jest.
Mine wasn't...I actually had the mistaken idea that I'd get behind my friends gun and think I'd pull off some pretty tight groups.
As I said...it was embarrassing.
I don't make fun of anyones skills nowadays, not matter what the discipline who competes with the best equipment.
That was years ago. I'd like to think I'm smarter now, but my kids keep arguing the fact
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05-17-2018, 12:48 PM
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Cow Town ... Hopefully one of the BR shooters currently active in competition will weigh in on the joystick.
To me, it seems like a good idea as it could reduce the need to move off the stock with follow up shots in each string?
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05-17-2018, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 260 Rem
Cow Town ... Hopefully one of the BR shooters currently active in competition will weigh in on the joystick.
To me, it seems like a good idea as it could reduce the need to move off the stock with follow up shots in each string?
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I suspect that the joystick can be used in BR competition but like you say we need a BR guy to give us the word officially.
From a practical point of view the joystick offers lots of advantages.
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05-17-2018, 01:45 PM
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Farley is the most common joystick front rest I see in competition, some Seb Neo’s as well , still a fair number of fixed rests competing by bag squeezers (less and less all the time ) ,,fixed rests and knob turning very few that are competitive,
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05-17-2018, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by HW223
Farley is the most common joystick front rest I see in competition, some Seb Neo’s as well , still a fair number of fixed rests competing by bag squeezers (less and less all the time ) ,,fixed rests and knob turning very few that are competitive,
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Hard to concentrate what with all that bag squeezing and knob turning going on. They really should do that stuff between relays........
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05-17-2018, 05:50 PM
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I believe the joystick rests started in score shooting were moving/aiming at a different bullseye is required.
It adapted well to group shooting as one moves from a lower sighter bull to the upper record bull.
It enables making minor adjustments quickly especially when attempting to run a group and having to use hold off for changing wind conditions.
I was a knob twiddler on Hart, Sinclair, JJ (John Loh) rests, converted a couple of years back and now prefer it to the other rests.
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05-17-2018, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 6.5 shooter
Interesting all that money on the gun and he still has an old fixed Weaver scope mounted on top......Cheese don't they know you need a new, shiny....NF, S&B or the Hubel telescope mounted on that thing or you will never hit the target??
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Picture is probably 15 to 20 years old, rail gun from when those weaver scopes were somewhat popular.
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05-17-2018, 07:03 PM
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Picture is probably 15 to 20 years old, rail gun from when those weaver scopes were somewhat popular.
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No flies on a T-36
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05-17-2018, 09:04 PM
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No flies on a T-36
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I think he missed my jest.
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Trades I would interested in:
- Sightron rifle scopes, 4.5x14x42mm or 4x16x42mm
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05-17-2018, 10:07 PM
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No flies on a T-36
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True, I still use one on my bench gun.
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05-18-2018, 04:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by covey ridge
This is what I use instead of my cut denim filled with sand. Ordered it on amazon.
I still use a sock filled with dry beans for a rear bag
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I used this same rest in the field instead of a bipod 2 seasons ago, worked great for me.....fs
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