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03-14-2018, 08:26 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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How long to get RPAl back?
I received a letter from RCMP that said my RPAL renewal was denied until I send in proof of range membership.
I've never had to do this before so never thought of it.
How have the wait times been lately? I need to pick up some new guns.
Does anyone know about how long it should take to get back?
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03-14-2018, 08:30 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Calgary
Posts: 7,520
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Mine took about an extra week once the RCMP contacted me and I sent them a copy of my membership card.
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03-14-2018, 08:32 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Edmonton
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Am friend of mine had the exact same issue (not having included a range membership copy).
He got the exact same response as you did - He followed up with a phone call, got in touch with a specific person and emailed a scan of the range to the person to insert it in the file and once approved, stamped or whatever by the CFO had his renewal back in the space of a week or so.
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03-14-2018, 08:37 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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My last rpal took 3 months then my ATC took 4 months so do not hold your breth, Wait until some of the changes Trud is considering to make us all safer.
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03-14-2018, 08:57 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf
My last rpal took 3 months then my ATC took 4 months so do not hold your breth, Wait until some of the changes Trud is considering to make us all safer.
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That's why I need it ASAP.
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03-14-2018, 09:05 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2014
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Glad to see the CFO is still overstepping their bounds and making up laws.
For future reference, you don’t need a range membership in order to have an RPAL. Their refusal can easily be challenged in court, it’s been won in Ontario, but no challenge has made it to court in Alberta yet since they always cave once they know you’re fighting it
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03-14-2018, 09:09 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Dreadful Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whiteout
Glad to see the CFO is still overstepping their bounds and making up laws.
For future reference, you don’t need a range membership in order to have an RPAL. Their refusal can easily be challenged in court, it’s been won in Ontario, but no challenge has made it to court in Alberta yet since they always cave once they know you’re fighting it
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Who’s got the means or the finances to fight such a battle?
Bold talk when it isn’t your time or money on the line.
We get to play at the table, with the cards the Feds deal us. So far all we've only got Jokers and Duces in our hand.
For the OP.
It took about 2 weeks to get my RPAL after I got the snotogram from the CFO.
Their fax wouldn’t work, and I had to involve my MP’s office to get an email address.
Which was:
cfpcfounit@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
Include your application reference number in your email.
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03-14-2018, 09:14 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Camrose
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Originally Posted by Dick284
Who’s got the means or the finances to fight such a battle?
Bold talk when it isn’t your time or money on the line.
We get to play at the table, with the cards the Feds deal us. So far all we've only got Jokers and Duces in our hand.
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Exactly, it's nothing but harassment, but the CFO knows that most people will comply with their demand, rather than spend the time and money to contest their demand. I actually attached proof of my membership to my renewal application, but the CFO still played that game. When I informed him that I had attached the proof, his excuse was that someone else must have detached it and misplaced it.
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03-14-2018, 09:16 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Just North of the North Sask. River
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Did my RPAL online Jan.3,2018
Got a letter on March 11,2018 to fax a copy of my Range Membership
Did that on the same day
Now waiting
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03-14-2018, 09:18 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Look behind you :)
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By default now after having the same letter sent out ....I just include a range mbership at time of renewal to expedite the process, even though they never specifically ask for it at time of renewal...eventually they will.
LC
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03-14-2018, 09:22 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: On the border in Lloydminster
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
By default now after having the same letter sent out ....I just include a range mbership at time of renewal to expedite the process, even though they never specifically ask for it at time of renewal...eventually they will.
LC
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I did the same took about 4 weeks
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03-14-2018, 09:24 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Dreadful Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
By default now after having the same letter sent out ....I just include a range mbership at time of renewal to expedite the process, even though they never specifically ask for it at time of renewal...eventually they will.
LC
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There’s no such means if you renew electronically. And last time (5 yrs ago) when I renewed with paper, I attached my proof of membership to my application. I still received the snotogram.
It’s a game they play, and there’s no way to get a leg up on the SOB’s
Just wait till Good Hale roles out their changes, in a few weeks, wouldnt surprise me if they will ask for proof of going to the range.
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03-14-2018, 10:43 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2016
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Renewed mine over the confuser last year I think I had it back within a couple of weeks. Don't remember having to give them a range membership
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03-14-2018, 11:09 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Dreadful Valley
Posts: 14,654
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Norwest Alta
Renewed mine over the confuser last year I think I had it back within a couple of weeks. Don't remember having to give them a range membership
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It seems not everyone gets the snotogram. I know of one friend that had his RPAL in about 3 weeks when he renewed online, with no membership info provided.
And also is yours a RPAL?
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03-14-2018, 11:16 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2013
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i sent mine in 2.5 months in advance of the expiry and when i saw NOTHING in january i called and they said they were just starting it, and then i called again 1 week b4 the expiry and got put in touch with EDM and they said i needed proof of range membership ...easily enough done ... however!.... if you do not take the initiative to motivate some federal union hack to giddyup they just go through the motions
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03-14-2018, 11:53 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Berta
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I have a restricted pal. Didn't need one when I first got mine. But wondering if I really need the membership if I renew my license?? I don't have any restricted's ether.
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03-14-2018, 12:01 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Dreadful Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by buck403
I have a restricted pal. Didn't need one when I first got mine. But wondering if I really need the membership if I renew my license?? I don't have any restricted's ether.
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When you’ve got a restricted registration tied to your licence, expect, some fun fun fun.
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03-14-2018, 12:11 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Moose Jaw , sk
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I renewed my rpal online feb 27 th , no range membership . Received it in the mail on mar. 9 . I was very surprised at how fast it came . I’m in sask. though , so I don’t if that makes a difference?
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03-14-2018, 01:17 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick284
It seems not everyone gets the snotogram. I know of one friend that had his RPAL in about 3 weeks when he renewed online, with no membership info provided.
And also is yours a RPAL?
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Yessir. I don't know if it had something to do with my atc.
My first atc was 10 business days but I hand delivered my application to cfo office in Edmonton. Atc renewal took awhile. Don't know why other then I was permitted for bc as well.
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03-14-2018, 04:24 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Just North of the North Sask. River
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I asked if I should send a copy of my Range Membership and was told no
The CFO may or may not ask for it
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03-14-2018, 05:51 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2016
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Here's a question. Do you guys use your rural address or land description? My last 2 purchases I've asked the cfo what they would prefer. They couldn't answer so rather then make things more confusing I've just been using my land description.
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03-14-2018, 06:06 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Clearwater BC
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Don't have any more restricted fire arms so lost my r possession, if I want to buy another hand gun I was told I would have to start at the bottom again, had r possession for over 50 yrs. So much for another handgun and they wonder why there is so many illegal guns out there, Just my thought's.
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03-14-2018, 06:58 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Berta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick284
When you’ve got a restricted registration tied to your licence, expect, some fun fun fun.
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What do you mean?
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03-14-2018, 08:50 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Dreadful Valley
Posts: 14,654
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Quote:
Originally Posted by buck403
What do you mean?
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Just having an RPAL isn’t cause for the CFO to ask about a range membership.
It’s when you purchase and have a restricted firearm that they get all up in your grill about the membership stuff.
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03-14-2018, 08:55 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick284
Just having an RPAL isn’t cause for the CFO to ask about a range membership.
It’s when you purchase and have a restricted firearm that they get all up in your grill about the membership stuff.
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Yup.
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