Go Back   Alberta Outdoorsmen Forum > Main Category > General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-12-2017, 12:47 PM
sourdough doug sourdough doug is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: northern AB
Posts: 2,241
Default Vin

Having purchased a "preowned Vehicle" and having the VIN, is there a way one can locate the previous owner, in regards to maintenance history, etc...????, or is this one of a privacy matter..??
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-12-2017, 01:14 PM
J0HN_R1 J0HN_R1 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 2,208
Default

Definitely a PerSec issue...

But if you go to a dealer that sells that make of car, they can tell you the service history that particular vehicle had at any dealership under their brand-name.

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-12-2017, 01:42 PM
jstubbs jstubbs is offline
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Parkland County
Posts: 2,398
Default

Short of just getting a carproof (which doesn't tell you names, only locations I believe), not sure what you could do without having a friend who works at the police department/registry/dealership.
__________________
Bet the best when you know you got 'em.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-12-2017, 01:46 PM
Selkirk's Avatar
Selkirk Selkirk is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: In the shadow of the Valhalla Mountains, BC .
Posts: 9,179
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sourdough doug View Post
Having purchased a "preowned Vehicle" and having the VIN, is there a way one can locate the previous owner, in regards to maintenance history, etc...????, or is this one of a privacy matter..??
Typically, that ^ is done before the purchase, not after.

Was there a problem doing it before the purchase?
.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-12-2017, 01:47 PM
rem338win's Avatar
rem338win rem338win is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Cowtown, agian
Posts: 2,814
Default

It's would be illegal for any person to disclose that information to you from a government information system.
__________________
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
- Sir Winston Churchill

A body of men holding themselves accountable to nobody ought not to be trusted by anybody.
-Thomas Paine
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-12-2017, 01:49 PM
blacknorthernjk's Avatar
blacknorthernjk blacknorthernjk is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 773
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rem338win View Post
It's would be illegal for any person to disclose that information to you from a government information system.
Absolutely. Sorry OP, you're at the mercy of what you can deduce on your own.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-12-2017, 02:15 PM
Opa Opa is offline
Gone Hunting
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: 503
Posts: 979
Default

We were looking for a good used car for our grand daughter. We found what we thought was a smoker of a deal. I took the VIN and went to the registry, got the name of the owner, and was informed that it had been written off. A curber picked it up from insurance, repaired it to look like new, and put it up for sale at about 1/2 the price of what I had expected to pay for that particular model. Needless to say, it stayed where it was parked, waiting for a pigeon!!!
__________________
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity!!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-12-2017, 02:19 PM
-JR- -JR- is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Edm.
Posts: 5,056
Default

Just take it to regestry branch ,believe they charge $20.00
Kicking my self for losing by Vin on my high school car1974 trans am 455 ci
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-12-2017, 02:23 PM
Selkirk's Avatar
Selkirk Selkirk is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: In the shadow of the Valhalla Mountains, BC .
Posts: 9,179
Arrow A good example . . .

Quote:
Originally Posted by Opa View Post
We were looking for a good used car for our grand daughter. We found what we thought was a smoker of a deal. I took the VIN and went to the registry, got the name of the owner, and was informed that it had been written off. A curber picked it up from insurance, repaired it to look like new, and put it up for sale at about 1/2 the price of what I had expected to pay for that particular model. Needless to say, it stayed where it was parked, waiting for a pigeon!!!



Sevice Alberta Link: https://www.servicealberta.ca/vehicl...ion-report.cfm


.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-12-2017, 03:20 PM
sourdough doug sourdough doug is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: northern AB
Posts: 2,241
Default

Definitely not a problem with the vehicle. Was just wanting any additional info that might be available..
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-12-2017, 03:32 PM
elkdump elkdump is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: In a tree near ALTA
Posts: 3,061
Default

I get warranty/service information from different auto dealers several times a month about vehicles I am repairing ,the amount of warranty work if any done by a manufacturer on a unit it built is not " personal information "

When I phone or visit it a dealer/manufacturer agent for unit information, no names or any other personal info is mentioned or disclosed and is completely unnecessary ,,

All I need is the ser# and I can find out absolutely every detail on the unit , any factory warranty, any OEM parts installed after purchase etc,
The build ? All parts, options, gvw, gear ratio, engine ,trans and electronic components,paint, interior, flooring bla bla bla bla bla ,right down to the day hour minute it left the assembly line

Last edited by elkdump; 03-12-2017 at 03:38 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-12-2017, 03:42 PM
Grizzly Adams's Avatar
Grizzly Adams Grizzly Adams is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Central Alberta
Posts: 21,399
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Opa View Post
We were looking for a good used car for our grand daughter. We found what we thought was a smoker of a deal. I took the VIN and went to the registry, got the name of the owner, and was informed that it had been written off. A curber picked it up from insurance, repaired it to look like new, and put it up for sale at about 1/2 the price of what I had expected to pay for that particular model. Needless to say, it stayed where it was parked, waiting for a pigeon!!!
Actually bought one of those at auction. They have to disclose that it's been a write off, doesn't take much damage for that with modern vehicles, not necessarily fatal. Repaired vehicle has to pass provincial inspection before being registered again. There are shops out there specializing in these, a lot end up here. https://www.adesa.ca/auction-types/salvage Low mileage car, excellent shape, functioned flawlessly till wifey hit a deer. Written off again, just cause body damage made repair uneconomical. I'd buy another.

Grizz
__________________
"Indeed, no human being has yet lived under conditions which, considering the prevailing climates of the past, can be regarded as normal."
John E. Pfeiffer The Emergence of Man
written in 1969
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-12-2017, 04:50 PM
LSLAKER LSLAKER is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 242
Default Written off Vehicles

Many vehicles are written off by insurance companies not because they are beyond repair or unsafe to rebuild but because it would cost more for them to repair than the value of the vehicle. By having the vehicle declared as being written off the insurance company is protecting themselves from any future liability.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-12-2017, 05:21 PM
elkdump elkdump is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: In a tree near ALTA
Posts: 3,061
Default

If you purchase a REBUILT/WRITE-OFF vehicle ,and at some later date , they rebuilt vehicle becomes damaged or stolen and you try deal with your insurance company ?

You will be sorely disappointed indeedly
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 03-12-2017, 05:26 PM
Grizzly Adams's Avatar
Grizzly Adams Grizzly Adams is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Central Alberta
Posts: 21,399
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by elkdump View Post
If you purchase a REBUILT/WRITE-OFF vehicle ,and at some later date , they rebuilt vehicle becomes damaged or stolen and you try deal with your insurance company ?

You will be sorely disappointed indeedly
Not this cowboy, adjuster gave fair value and cheque within a few days.

Grizz
__________________
"Indeed, no human being has yet lived under conditions which, considering the prevailing climates of the past, can be regarded as normal."
John E. Pfeiffer The Emergence of Man
written in 1969
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 03-12-2017, 05:38 PM
Dewey Cox's Avatar
Dewey Cox Dewey Cox is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: 204
Posts: 5,518
Default Vin

Think about this for a minute.
If you do track down the original owner, and ask him how he maintained his vehicle, what do you think he's going to say?
He is going to say he serviced it at the factory recommended intervals, whether he actually did or not.
Either that, or he's going to tell you "not my problem anymore. Please don't contact me again."
I'd say don't waste any more of your time trying to track this guy down, because the best you'll do is get unreliable information. The worst you'll do is have him tell you he only used it as a mobile motel for picking up hookers, and you'll never want to sit in the back seat again.
__________________
"I like to quote my own quotes" ~ Dewey Cox
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 03-12-2017, 06:07 PM
elkdump elkdump is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: In a tree near ALTA
Posts: 3,061
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams View Post
Not this cowboy, adjuster gave fair value and cheque within a few days.

Grizz
Most insurance companies have a special category for rebuilt vehicle claims ,

Your one lucky cowboy, just lucky you didn't get your broke, back
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 03-12-2017, 07:04 PM
RavYak's Avatar
RavYak RavYak is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: West Edmonton
Posts: 5,174
Default

Regarding maintenance you can get your local dealership to check for any maintenance records. No guarantees it will find anything though because you have no idea where the original owner had work done.

You should have asked the person you bought it from for any paperwork and deals they had.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 03-12-2017, 08:03 PM
ronkaren's Avatar
ronkaren ronkaren is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 254
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Opa View Post
We were looking for a good used car for our grand daughter. We found what we thought was a smoker of a deal. I took the VIN and went to the registry, got the name of the owner, and was informed that it had been written off. A curber picked it up from insurance, repaired it to look like new, and put it up for sale at about 1/2 the price of what I had expected to pay for that particular model. Needless to say, it stayed where it was parked, waiting for a pigeon!!!
sadly, this happens alot.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 03-12-2017, 08:51 PM
kinwahkly kinwahkly is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: calagry
Posts: 1,928
Default

Car proof and registry look up. Buyer beware .
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 03-12-2017, 09:30 PM
gulfman gulfman is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 282
Smile

Quote:
Originally Posted by sourdough doug View Post
Having purchased a "preowned Vehicle" and having the VIN, is there a way one can locate the previous owner, in regards to maintenance history, etc...????, or is this one of a privacy matter..??
I just get the feeling like someone wants to give a previous owner some sourdough. Most used cars are bought as-is where-is unless from dealership where they may give you 30 days or something like that but they typically have the shop do a inspection on it. Like another person said you would need someone on the inside to get you that info as it is not released. If the car was written off at one point the registration card would note that it once was and has been rebuilt to pass write off inspection. Anyone not knowledgeable enough to do there own pre-purchase inspection should have one done by there mechanic or it's buyer beware. Start your own service record. go to the owners manual or internet and do there maintenance service schedule according to mileage. If the oil's black change it. Most of it will all be visual. Anything internal you will have to go with drivability symptoms or unusual noises as not even a tech can guess what wear is on inside without disassembly. Buying used is always buyer beware.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 03-12-2017, 10:50 PM
sourdough doug sourdough doug is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: northern AB
Posts: 2,241
Default

Truly amazing what some can read in to a simple straight forward question.
Must be how conspiracy theories are created....haha
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 03-12-2017, 11:13 PM
gulfman gulfman is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 282
Default

I cant' speak for others but it's not my first rodeo
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 03-13-2017, 12:14 AM
Dacotensis's Avatar
Dacotensis Dacotensis is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Sherwood Forest
Posts: 5,176
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by -JR- View Post
Just take it to regestry branch ,believe they charge $20.00
Kicking my self for losing by Vin on my high school car1974 trans am 455 ci
What exactly are you trying to say here??
__________________
We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.
Ronald Reagan

Either get busy living, or get busy dying!
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 03-13-2017, 08:37 AM
Rastus Rastus is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 396
Default

WHY!!!
I have owned Vehicles since before time. I have listed all repairs and copied all of them, invoices I mean, listed oil changes and EVERY drop of fuel that has ever gone into my vehicles has been recorded. NOTHING!! has been left out. The answer I get is, SO WHAT, WHO CARES. I keep records for my own purpose and nobody else. Now when I sell a vehicle, let the buyer beware. I know this is not the answer you want, but WHO CARES!!
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 03-13-2017, 08:56 AM
MK2750's Avatar
MK2750 MK2750 is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Sylvan Lake
Posts: 3,458
Default

I had a vehicle written off for hail damage. It is done using math not common sense. I drove the thing for another 100,000 K after picking up a hood and trunk lid at the wreckers. You had to be looking really hard to see the marks on the roof after I removed the panel and popped the dents out.

I bought another with full disclosure that was hit in the rear. Buddy took pictures of the whole process and that car went to 400,000 before I sold it for parts. Did nothing to it except regular maintenance.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 03-13-2017, 12:49 PM
32-40win 32-40win is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Near Drumheller
Posts: 6,795
Default

Just had to apply for a VIN reassignment for my stolen and recovered trailer. Interesting site to explore I shud think, seems to be a lot of info there.
IBC.CA
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 03-13-2017, 12:56 PM
Okotokian's Avatar
Okotokian Okotokian is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Uh, guess? :)
Posts: 26,739
Default

When buying used vehicles in the more recent past (when I had more money and the vehicles were worth more) without proof to the contrary I would just assume a lot of the preventative maintenance hadn't been done. I'd get most of it (major fluid change-outs, etc.) done just for my own piece of mind. Maybe not the most frugal option, but...
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate View Post
In this case Oki has cut to to the exact heart of the matter!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:56 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.