New rifle for the Rangers.

[marxman]

Originally Posted by Bergerboy

Sako is making them to order.

No they arent colt canada is making them

[fish_e_o]

Originally Posted by marxman

No they arent colt canada is making them

Sako = colt

[marxman]

Originally Posted by fish_e_o

Sako = colt

Then why does colt need a licence from sako to make the rifle

[fish_e_o]

Originally Posted by marxman

Then why does colt need a licence from sako to make the rifle

because colt is making the sako rifles???

[marxman]

Originally Posted by fish_e_o

because colt is making the sako rifles???

Yes because colt is making the sako rifles. Thzt means sako is not making them because colt is making them. Colt is not = sako.. if you want to follow bergerboys analogy if norinco made a r8 blaser knockoff he would say its a blaser. Not saying the colts mwill be no good. Even if they are the same quality if the govt payed sako for building the rifles after colt made them colt would be pretty mad because they made them and never got payed. So i dont think its just me that says colt and sako are the not same i bet they would agree

[fish_e_o]

browning makes winchesters but they're still called winchesters

[marxman]

Originally Posted by fish_e_o

browning makes winchesters but they're still called winchesters

Thats right.Carry on

[Bergerboy]

Originally Posted by marxman

Yes because colt is making the sako rifles. Thzt means sako is not making them because colt is making them. Colt is not = sako.. if you want to follow bergerboys analogy if norinco made a r8 blaser knockoff he would say its a blaser. Not saying the colts mwill be no good. Even if they are the same quality if the govt payed sako for building the rifles after colt made them colt would be pretty mad because they made them and never got payed. So i dont think its just me that says colt and sako are the not same i bet they would agree

Someone translate. I read this one 3 solid tries and am having comprehension issues.

[Bergerboy]

Originally Posted by marxman

No they arent colt canada is making them

Its a Sako. Doesnt matter who makes them. Its the pattern that matters. An M1 Garande was made by lots of manufacturers. They are all M1's. A machined part is a machined part regardless of what machine shop turns it. All of the material that Colt is doing the machining on is provided by Sako. Its a Sako.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by Bergerboy

Its a Sako. Doesnt matter who makes them. Its the pattern that matters. An M1 Garande was made by lots of manufacturers. They are all M1's. A machined part is a machined part regardless of what machine shop turns it. All of the material that Colt is doing the machining on is provided by Sako. Its a Sako.

AR's, Enfields, Webleys, Colt 1911's etc, the list is endless of the different plants making these weapons!
Cat

[marxman]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

AR's, Enfields, Webleys, Colt 1911's etc, the list is endless of the different plants making these weapons!
Cat

So what. Relevance please

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by marxman

So what. Relevance please

The 1911's for example are all called 1911 Colts but they may be made by Colt, or Rand , singer , Nirinco , the list goes on .
Same as this Ranger designed rifle .
Colt may be making it but if is not a Colt design ,
As far license goes , it could be because of patent law , but I don't think that the people who know this for certain really care what a bunch of
Internet forum members think .
Cat

[marxman]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

The 1911's for example are all called 1911 Colts but they may be made by Colt, or Rand , singer , Nirinco , the list goes on .
Same as this Ranger designed rifle .
Colt may be making it but if is not a Colt design ,
As far license goes , it could be because of patent law , but I don't think that the people who know this for certain really care what a bunch of
Internet forum members think .
Cat

Maybe so but bergerboy has it backwards, its not the design of the gun in thiz case, its who makes it. If the gun had been a ruger it would still be prdtty good, colt canada would still be making it, and it would still cost 6000 dollars. Ruger declined to be in competition for it if they didnt make it themselves. So in that case as in this one it was absolutely important who made the gun. My point about the lipsey and legacy was that they could get a manf to make a version of the gun they wanted vanguard is another example. Sako is making that version anyway in the arctic and at a terrific markup still less than half the price

[Dick284]

Military doctrine, is to have arms and accessories manufactured on your own soil. It's a logistics and supply chain requirement. Part of the ballooned price tag on these rifles is the absorption of manufacturing rights costs.

Far too much is being argued on such a small item. The price of this project pales in comparison to dollars wasted on trips to Paris, or funds sent to foreign lands, so more selfies can be taken.

FWIW the couple Innu and Inuit members of the Rangers I have contact with, aren't happy the rifle is in 7.62(.308), they woulda been happier with 5.56(.223). So much for the purpose built, consultation rhetoric.....

[quasi]

Colt Canada is not making the receivers. I am not sure about the stocks.