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Stringer... You need to actually read your Charter and know what it says before you spout off about it.
I know.. Why don't you try to understand sec 1???
It's kindof an important one. Sort of sets the tone for the rest of the document.
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The WR does not need to change any policies - not one. Those policies came from constituency associations, people of Alberta. They were not handed down from on high. They were not politically correct in some regards but that odious form of censorship belongs with the Progressives. It has no place in the Wild Rose.
All the years I voted Reform federally I doubted a victory was possible. But I always felt good when I left the ballot box.
This election was not lost by failing to bow to the global warming faith or wanting to evaluate replacing the RCMP with a provincial police force or having an Alberta Pension Plan. The latter two have been in place in two large liberal provinces for years, for heaven's sake!
It was lost on a charge of racism and a charge of homophobia. The first was a case of foot-in-mouth by a candidate with a visible minority campaign manager! The second was a bible quotation in a blog the REDford crowd dug up a year before the guy got into politics.
Preston Manning was a born-again Christian when he ran for office. Still is. Does anybody seriously think he doesn't read the bible?
Those attacks came from narrow-minded, intolerant bigots. Those attacks came from a party that now believes Albertans should never be sullied by a candidate who mentions his personal religion in a personal comment made any time before an election campaign. Those attacks came from a party that believes Albertans will not tolerate a single stupid-sounding comment. That makes sense only to those who assume that they themselves never say anything stupid-sounding.
Dani's mistake was in not identifying that PC bigotry for what it was and attacking it. Her campaign handlers should have never advised her to get on a bicycle and pedal backwards. I wanted to hear a simple apology for a minor offence for the "Caucasian" remark and then hear her rip a large, long strip off the Politically Correct and their leader for those intolerant, over-the-top and offensive labels; particularly the bible quote.
If we do not tolerate bigotry in the WR - and we don't - then we cannot tolerate hypocritical bigots, either, and especially when they are our opponents. That is the mistake conservatives make far too often...when the "bigot" or "racist" accusation is tossed out, we get backing up and denying. It would be better if we recognized that such an accusation for such a minor offense is, itself, full-blown bigotry. It would be better if we recognized that the crows who want to ban personal religious belief - unless those beliefs are spoken only in private - are themselves intolerant, bigoted elitists and nothing less than potential tyrants. We are guaranteed freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. Caber Tosser said that, too, and it is exactly right. The worst mistake conservatives ever make is in letting the Left get away with being narrow-minded and intolerant.
I never thought I'd see the day when liberal fear-mongering would win an election in Alberta.
That has been profoundly disappointing.
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Still with the fear-mongering ....LOL Well Dani realizes WR policies need changing and that's what she's going to do..
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Stringer... You need to actually read your Charter and know what it says before you spout off about it.
I know.. Why don't you try to understand sec 1???
It's kindof an important one. Sort of sets the tone for the rest of the document.
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Redfrog, it has felt like I discovered part of my family were actually aliens. Albertans I know don't cut and run. They just don't. Not the ones I know anyway, and I know a LOT. Not as many in the cities, though, I guess.
Over the next four years, we are going to see higher taxes, more spending programs, bigger government, U.N agendas, reduced property rights and the same old corrupt politics. We will be able to dig out of that hole over time.
But if she multiplies the number of people who feel dependent on PC beneficence - teachers and unions come first to mind but there will be others - we might be lost. They will vote for more butter on their bread and that's all they will vote for. I would not be surprised if she encourages more of the dependent classes to move to Alberta.
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Still with the fear-mongering ....LOL Well Dani realizes WR policies need changing and that's what she's going to do..
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Well, you remain the true liberal, anyway.
I see our guy won in RHM despite you and your alter egos flogging birther theories and wild claims about him never having had a job, etc. etc. etc. Hypocrites belong right where they are, HT. We were never after that vote.
And over the next 4 years as we see one turd after another come down the sewer line from Edmonton, please don't whine and don't blame it on everything and everyone else.
Know that those are your turds. Own them.
Be happy that you stood for censorship on the issue of gay marriage and you stood for punctilious correctness in speech over substance. The turds are the price you were willing to pay.
Man up.
I could, at least, respect that bit of integrity.
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I know that around here, among people who follow politics, there was a lot of opposition toward the PC's getting back in.
I believe what really happened is that the WR failed to get their message out to the northern riding's.
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That doesn't add up for me, Keg.
REDford promised to "change Alberta". People voted for that.
REDford promised a "National Energy Strategy". People voted for that.
Nobody, but nobody, knows exactly what she was talking about - just her.
This was a vote based on fear and labels. Not in every case, obviously, but it was enough.
It was also a vote where liberals and dippers voted PC. The Liberals were missing around 15% of the vote that normally goes Left. We know where it went and why. Fear.
So, at the end of the day, all I know is that I am not going to be changed by my Government. Ain't gonna happen. I like my hat and tall boots and I like my conservative values. At this point, that's about all I know for sure over the next four years.
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The WR does not need to change any policies - not one. Those policies came from constituency associations, people of Alberta. They were not handed down from on high. They were not politically correct in some regards but that odious form of censorship belongs with the Progressives. It has no place in the Wild Rose.
All the years I voted Reform federally I doubted a victory was possible. But I always felt good when I left the ballot box.
This election was not lost by failing to bow to the global warming faith or wanting to evaluate replacing the RCMP with a provincial police force or having an Alberta Pension Plan. The latter two have been in place in two large liberal provinces for years, for heaven's sake!
It was lost on a charge of racism and a charge of homophobia. The first was a case of foot-in-mouth by a candidate with a visible minority campaign manager! The second was a bible quotation in a blog the REDford crowd dug up a year before the guy got into politics.
Preston Manning was a born-again Christian when he ran for office. Still is. Does anybody seriously think he doesn't read the bible?
Those attacks came from narrow-minded, intolerant bigots. Those attacks came from a party that now believes Albertans should never be sullied by a candidate who mentions his personal religion in a personal comment made any time before an election campaign. Those attacks came from a party that believes Albertans will not tolerate a single stupid-sounding comment. That makes sense only to those who assume that they themselves never say anything stupid-sounding.
Dani's mistake was in not identifying that PC bigotry for what it was and attacking it. Her campaign handlers should have never advised her to get on a bicycle and pedal backwards. I wanted to hear a simple apology for a minor offence for the "Caucasian" remark and then hear her rip a large, long strip off the Politically Correct and their leader for those intolerant, over-the-top and offensive labels; particularly the bible quote.
If we do not tolerate bigotry in the WR - and we don't - then we cannot tolerate hypocritical bigots, either, and especially when they are our opponents. That is the mistake conservatives make far too often...when the "bigot" or "racist" accusation is tossed out, we get backing up and denying. It would be better if we recognized that such an accusation for such a minor offense is, itself, full-blown bigotry. It would be better if we recognized that the crows who want to ban personal religious belief - unless those beliefs are spoken only in private - are themselves intolerant, bigoted elitists and nothing less than potential tyrants. We are guaranteed freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. Caber Tosser said that, too, and it is exactly right. The worst mistake conservatives ever make is in letting the Left get away with being narrow-minded and intolerant.
I never thought I'd see the day when liberal fear-mongering would win an election in Alberta.
That has been profoundly disappointing.
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Well, you remain the true liberal, anyway.
I see our guy won in RHM despite you and your alter egos flogging birther theories and wild claims about him never having had a job, etc. etc. etc. Hypocrites belong right where they are, HT. We were never after that vote.
And over the next 4 years as we see one turd after another come down the sewer line from Edmonton, please don't whine and don't blame it on everything and everyone else.
Know that those are your turds. Own them.
Be happy that you stood for censorship on the issue of gay marriage and you stood for punctilious correctness in speech over substance. The turds are the price you were willing to pay.
Man up.
I could, at least, respect that bit of integrity.
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Good to have you back Rock. The buffet is to the left, please take Rug's plate away from him. Help yourself. We're an inclusive society and take care of our minorities, be they black, white, bigot, RIGHT or wrong.
You need to sit Danni down and help her plow a new direction. She's backpeddaling bad and should never, NEVER have done an interview with the Globe (left) so soon..... I think she's soooo had a target painted on her..... she's got a real opportunity to blaze a trail as a politician.... AND WE ALL NEED THIS!!!... (dammit! this sure sounds like im posting bout the elections again..... frig! its like crack... sorry.. me no post no more... this time for serious!)
Stringer..... are you seriously assuming I do not know what I'm talking about? C'mon. I've spend ALOT of $$ studying that document and its impact on Canadians.
Not gonna do your edumacating for ya.... I really really want to know if you can comprehend it... It makes for a wonderful baseline intelligence test...
...... lets see how intelligent you are boyo..!
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Redfrog, it has felt like I discovered part of my family were actually aliens. Albertans I know don't cut and run. They just don't. Not the ones I know anyway, and I know a LOT. Not as many in the cities, though, I guess.
Over the next four years, we are going to see higher taxes, more spending programs, bigger government, U.N agendas, reduced property rights and the same old corrupt politics. We will be able to dig out of that hole over time.
But if she multiplies the number of people who feel dependent on PC beneficence - teachers and unions come first to mind but there will be others - we might be lost. They will vote for more butter on their bread and that's all they will vote for. I would not be surprised if she encourages more of the dependent classes to move to Alberta.
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Well look what the Wildrose budget said. Guess 1425 new teachers, teachers aides and support workers hired by Wildrose is different then if hired by the PC's. Or the 1000 new senior support care workers. Rocky, your point is not valid.
http://www.wildrose.ca/media/2012/02...ative-2012.pdf
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Good to have you back Rock. The buffet is to the left, please take Rug's plate away from him. Help yourself. We're an inclusive society and take care of our minorities, be they black, white, bigot, RIGHT or wrong.
You need to sit Danni down and help her plow a new direction. She's backpeddaling bad and should never, NEVER have done an interview with the Globe (left) so soon..... I think she's soooo had a target painted on her..... she's got a real opportunity to blaze a trail as a politician.... AND WE ALL NEED THIS!!!... (dammit! this sure sounds like im posting bout the elections again..... frig! its like crack... sorry.. me no post no more... this time for serious!)
Stringer..... are you seriously assuming I do not know what I'm talking about? C'mon. I've spend ALOT of $$ studying that document and its impact on Canadians.
Not gonna do your edumacating for ya.... I really really want to know if you can comprehend it... It makes for a wonderful baseline intelligence test...
...... lets see how intelligent you are boyo..!
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No I asked for you to explain not complain.
Oh buy the way I have read it many times and know exactly what it says
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Oh god I've missed you and your "the sky is red" observations, if even for just a couple days.
Your're right. The people who pointed out that a WR candidate said that gays would burn in a lake of fire are clearly intolerant bigots. Welcome back Stevie Wonder.  LOL
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Oh god I've missed you and your "the sky is red" observations, if even for just a couple days.
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The rights therein are guareteed to all canadians in so far as they are not limited by prescribed law and are reasonable in a free and democratic society.
sumpin like that.
Current case law exists that would shoot the snot out of 'concience rights'. UNLESS..... Harper gets enough new SCOC justices through that would act like a canadian version of Clarence Thomas (USSC) .... but Harper also shot himself in the foot by allowing a Parliament-Senate Vetting comiittee to interview appointees....
Really really tough to change the face and judicial activism lefty SCOC.
Now I'm grouchy! Gonna get coffee!
you philistine!
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Oh god I've missed you and your "the sky is red" observations, if even for just a couple days.
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So the Wr candidate is not allowed his religious beliefs?
Which beliefs are allowed. Is there a list someplace?
Did this guy say beat gays, don't hire gays, don't rent to gays?
Naaah I didn't think so.
So are muslim beliefs allowed? how about Druids? Hindu, Buddists?
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So the Wr candidate is not allowed his religious beliefs?
Which beliefs are allowed. Is there a list someplace?
Did this guy say beat gays, don't hire gays, don't rent to gays?
Naaah I didn't think so.
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As I've been saying over and over again to you Red, EVERYBODY is allowed to state their beliefs. And voters are allowed to decide whose beliefs they support. A Muslim candidate is allowed to state that he thinks people who blow up school children are martyrs who will go to heaven. And Alberta voters probably wouldn't vote for him either. I didn't call anyone an intolerant bigot, Rocky did.
Albertans aren't stupid. If one party points out what a member of the other party said, as long as the quote is accurate, Albertans will make up their own minds about who's a bigot and who isn't.
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Redfrog, it has felt like I discovered part of my family were actually aliens. Albertans I know don't cut and run. They just don't. Not the ones I know anyway, and I know a LOT. Not as many in the cities, though, I guess.
Over the next four years, we are going to see higher taxes, more spending programs, bigger government, U.N agendas, reduced property rights and the same old corrupt politics. We will be able to dig out of that hole over time.
But if she multiplies the number of people who feel dependent on PC beneficence - teachers and unions come first to mind but there will be others - we might be lost. They will vote for more butter on their bread and that's all they will vote for. I would not be surprised if she encourages more of the dependent classes to move to Alberta.
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So the Wr candidate is not allowed his religious beliefs?
Which beliefs are allowed. Is there a list someplace?
Did this guy say beat gays, don't hire gays, don't rent to gays?
Naaah I didn't think so.
So are muslim beliefs allowed? how about Druids? Hindu, Buddists?
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state your beliefs is just fine , but suffer the consiquences .
when the electorate votes they also judge . this is the reality .
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As I've been saying over and over again to you Red, EVERYBODY is allowed to state their beliefs. And voters are allowed to decide whose beliefs they support. A Muslim candidate is allowed to state that he thinks people who blow up school children are martyrs who will go to heaven. And Alberta voters probably wouldn't vote for him either. I didn't call anyone an intolerant bigot, Rocky did.
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You seem to make sense when you post a reply to me but you argue with Rocky. are you frightened of me? 
I agree with your post here. Believe what you want and vote your conscience, but there are a lot of intolerant bigots who rail against the guy speaking his Christian beliefs . Those are bigots.
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state your beliefs is just fine , but suffer the consiquences .
when the electorate votes they also judge . this is the reality .
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I have no problem with that The problem arises when the guy is called a bigot for his religious beliefs but all other beliefs are allowed.
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So the Wr candidate is not allowed his religious beliefs?
Which beliefs are allowed. Is there a list someplace?
Did this guy say beat gays, don't hire gays, don't rent to gays?
Naaah I didn't think so.
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Allan Hunsperger and his wife warned against accepting gays and lesbians for who they are.
They wrote if they don't change they will "suffer the rest of eternity in the lake of fire" — a reference to hell.
I think this is more then just religious beliefs. I know a few Christians and they would not condone this behavior.
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Without googleing:
The rights therein are guareteed to all canadians in so far as they are not limited by prescribed law and are reasonable in a free and democratic society.
sumpin like that.
Current case law exists that would shoot the snot out of 'concience rights'. UNLESS..... Harper gets enough new SCOC justices through that would act like a canadian version of Clarence Thomas (USSC) .... but Harper also shot himself in the foot by allowing a Parliament-Senate Vetting comiittee to interview appointees....
Really really tough to change the face and judicial activism lefty SCOC.
Now I'm grouchy! Gonna get coffee!
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Samething could be said about any rights listed in the costitution or any law for that matter.So what your saying is we realy don't have any rights that can not be taken away by a judge.
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I have no problem with that The problem arises when the guy is called a bigot for his religious beliefs but all other beliefs are allowed.
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i am sure if a political candidate of another religion proclaimed some scripture from the koran he would be pasted with a label or 2 as well . nothing to do with just Christians here .
this election was a prime example how the electorate weighs a candidates perceptions , stereotypes , ass much as the facts of their political platform , the business part per se .
you have the " perception " of the political right , which is always lurking in the background , then you get someone to solidify that steriotype , shizzam , it becomes reality .
danni should have preston and stephen help her out in this regard , as it was a fail of epic proportion . this election was in the bag for the wr, theirs to lose , and they sure did , based on the polls any ways ..
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Without googleing:
The rights therein are guareteed to all canadians in so far as they are not limited by prescribed law and are reasonable in a free and democratic society.
sumpin like that.
Current case law exists that would shoot the snot out of 'concience rights'. UNLESS..... Harper gets enough new SCOC justices through that would act like a canadian version of Clarence Thomas (USSC) .... but Harper also shot himself in the foot by allowing a Parliament-Senate Vetting comiittee to interview appointees....
Really really tough to change the face and judicial activism lefty SCOC.
Now I'm grouchy! Gonna get coffee!
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I am with you on this, I think some people have this backwards. The charter outlines how the gov't treats you. Dr's, JPs, nurses are an extension of government. How is a dr refusing to perscribe birth control, different than the province of Alberta refusing to perscribe you birth control, when the dr is their agent.
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Allan Hunsperger and his wife warned against accepting gays and lesbians for who they are.
They wrote if they don't change they will "suffer the rest of eternity in the lake of fire" — a reference to hell.
I think this is more then just religious beliefs. I know a few Christians and they would not condone this behavior.
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You seem to make sense when you post a reply to me but you argue with Rocky. are you frightened of me?
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Seriously, I probably raise or lower myself to the level of argument offered. Talk calmly using facts and figures, I'll do the same. Flame and throw out vitriol and I'll limber up and get ready for a rumble! You've simply been uncharacteristically thoughtful and reasonable lately. LOL
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Originally Posted by bessiedog
Good to have you back Rock. The buffet is to the left, please take Rug's plate away from him. Help yourself. We're an inclusive society and take care of our minorities, be they black, white, bigot, RIGHT or wrong.
You need to sit Danni down and help her plow a new direction. She's backpeddaling bad and should never, NEVER have done an interview with the Globe (left) so soon..... I think she's soooo had a target painted on her..... she's got a real opportunity to blaze a trail as a politician.... AND WE ALL NEED THIS!!!... (dammit! this sure sounds like im posting bout the elections again..... frig! its like crack... sorry.. me no post no more... this time for serious!)
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It's not crack, bud. You care. So do I. And you're right.
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04-26-2012, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by stringer
Obviously your not a christain
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And you know this HOW....?
PS it's CHRISTIAN
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04-26-2012, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by darius
i am sure if a political candidate of another religion proclaimed some scripture from the koran he would be pasted with a label or 2 as well . nothing to do with just Christians here .
this election was a prime example how the electorate weighs a candidates perceptions , stereotypes , ass much as the facts of their political platform , the business part per se .
you have the " perception " of the political right , which is always lurking in the background , then you get someone to solidify that steriotype , shizzam , it becomes reality .
danni should have preston and stephen help her out in this regard , as it was a fail of epic proportion . this election was in the bag for the wr, theirs to lose , and they sure did , based on the polls any ways ..
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Ever hear a muslim candidate called a bigot?
Horse do you think this guy is the only Christian or any other religion who believes homosexuality is a sin?
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