Alberta Primetime with Huntinstuff

[great white whaler]

I agree 100% with you sir ,,that was a pretty good chew . If a person was allowed to tuck a gun under the bed ,violent B and Es would drop big time ,make the thug thing twice.

[Rod1960]

Originally Posted by Kanonfodder

LOL " I"d prefer she put 5 in his chest " GOLD Randy GOLD !!

Amen!

[Lefty-Canuck]

I caught the 11pm showing, nice work and good points were made. I think you caught the old Chief off-guard with your "5 to the chest" comment....he kind of reeled it in with the old prevention is the best medicine

LC

[The Fisherman Guy]

Just watched your interview Randy, I thought you did a terrific job at keeping your points on target and not getting lost while trying to make your point. Just like your posts here on the forum, they aren't the longest; however they are concise, to the point and accurate.

We are lucky to have you as a regular contributer to our community, thank you sir.

The Ariat shirt makes up for no moustache and hat

So when do the bets begin on what day the registry is deemed kaput?

[ESOXangler]

Excellent Debate! Not an American debate with yelling, cutting people off and personal attacks but a good old Canadian debate, with logic, reason and respect. Randy you have such a reasonable approach to such a hot button issue. Thanks.

Can't wait for a debate against the Wicked Witch of Whyte Ave.

[New Hunter Okotoks]

Nice work Randy;as expected.

You really do represent the silent majority. It's good to know that there are men like you who are willing to go out on a limb(because you're a public servant) and say the common sense things that the bureaucrats either won't say because:A; they don't want to upset anybody;or B;they are too ignorant or stupid to understand and recognize the real problems.

You are absolutely right and hopefully some viewers who may not be outdoor enthusiasts took notice. "Punishments do not equal the crimes." Is something that really does need to be addressed and hopefully we finally have the government in place that might do something about it. I had no idea until tonight's broadcast,that a criminal convicted of B&E into someone's home would face as little as 7 months incarceration. To me,some creep who is willing to break into somebody's home,had also better be willing to lose his life. If my wife woke me in the middle of the night and said,while terrified:"Somebody's in the house!!!" I know without doubt,that I would be on Max adrenaline pump and my only priority would be to protect the family at any,and all cost. The law wouldn't even factor into my actions in such a situation. That is ONE scenario that criminals had better be wary of. If some loser was to read the paper as you mentioned, and the front page story was that of an elderly woman shooting an intruder to his death;that would be another scenario they had better have in the back of their head but are not too worried about now.(Especially if these guys are specifically targetting "Easy Prey")

Thanks Randy.

[mtylerb]

Well done Randy. I find it interesting that he couldn't see his own statistics falling even before the LGR was introduced. Right at the beginning of the show they show these statistics:

Homocides by Shotgun and Long Guns:
1993 - 103
1995 - 61
2009 - 29

So, in 2 years prior to the LGR, it fell 41% total. So, approximately 20.5% per year on average. In the next 14 years, with the LGR in place, it fell 52% total. So, approximately 3.7% per year average. Seems like we were doing better before the LGR.

[huntinstuff]

Originally Posted by mtylerb

Well done Randy. I find it interesting that he couldn't see his own statistics falling even before the LGR was introduced. Right at the beginning of the show they show these statistics:

Homocides by Shotgun and Long Guns:
1993 - 103
1995 - 61
2009 - 29

So, in 2 years prior to the LGR, it fell 41% total. So, approximately 20.5% per year on average. In the next 14 years, with the LGR in place, it fell 52% total. So, approximately 3.7% per year average. Seems like we were doing better before the LGR.

Yup those facts have been used over and over so i gave it the time it deserved...... about 6 seconds

Defending your life is not an "American" thing.... Its written into our constitution. The ability to do it with a golf club, lamp, firearm should not matter

[Redfrog]

Good job Randy!!1


Chubb. I don't believe the drop has anything to do with the registry. It could be the result of education. It could be the drop in ownership of firearms. It could be societal changes. Taking two unrelated stats and putting them together to prove a point is often done by politicians.

Drunk driving deaths have dropped in the last 20 years, but I doubt the registry had anything to do with that. On the other hand pedestrian deaths in Vancouver alone have risen, and are higher than firearms deaths in all of Canada. That must be a direct result of the registry.

[Redfrog]

Good job Randy!!1


Chubb. I don't believe the drop has anything to do with the registry. It could be the result of education. It could be the drop in ownership of firearms. It could be societal changes. Taking two unrelated stats and putting them together to prove a point is often done by politicians.

Drunk driving deaths have dropped in the last 20 years, but I doubt the registry had anything to do with that. On the other hand pedestrian deaths in Vancouver alone have risen, and are higher than firearms deaths in all of Canada. That must be a direct result of the registry.

BTW all those vehicles involved were registered. Check the stats for pedestrians killed , not just struck, but struck and killed in Canada in a year.
We already register vehicles, and test drivers, I guess we need to extend the education to walking and the registration to pedestrians.



I just have stats from 1992 to 2001 for general interest sake. I'm not sure how much effect the gun registry had on these deaths or incidents. You can see a lot more people were run down than shot.

"Over the 10-year period, 1992-2001:

Pedestrian fatalities averaged 416 per year and decreased 24.1 percent over the 10-year period.
Pedestrian injuries averaged 14,252 per year and decreased 10.2 percent from 1992 to 2001.
Overall males represented 61 percent of pedestrian fatalities while females accounted for 39 percent of fatalities.
The 65+ age group accounted for 27 percent and 39 percent of male and female pedestrian fatalities, respectively. Over the period, male fatalities over 64 years old decreased 12.7 percent and over 64 year old female fatalities decreased 30.4 percent.
Pedestrian fatalities decreased 24.1 percent compared to a decrease of 20.7 percent for all road users including pedestrians. Pedestrian fatalities were down 20 percent among males and down 30 percent among females.
Pedestrian fatalities in urban areas represented 69.5 percent of all pedestrian fatalities over the 10 years.
For pedestrians over 64 years of age, 85 percent of the fatalities occurred in an urban area.
Pedestrian injuries dropped 10 percent – decreases of 13 percent in male injuries and 7 percent in female injuries, while all road user injuries decreased 11.5 percent.
An average of 95 percent of pedestrian injuries occurred in urban areas.

In 2001:

Pedestrian fatalities (334) decreased 10 percent from 2000 and represented 12 percent of all road user fatalities, while injuries (13,475) decreased 2 percent from 2000 and accounted for 6 percent of all road user injuries.
Fatalities in 2001 were at their lowest level during the 10-year period. On average, 1 pedestrian fatality occurred each day in Canada.
Males accounted for 63.5 percent of pedestrian fatalities, and females accounted for 36.5 percent.
Pedestrian injuries were more evenly distributed between the genders with males accounting for 52 percent of injuries and females at 48 percent.
Of the 247 fatally injured pedestrians who were tested for alcohol use, 40.5 percent had been drinking. The majority of those tested and found to have been drinking had Blood Alcohol Concentrations (BAC) over the legal driving limit (80 mg%)."


Hope this helps

[BloodHound70]

Originally Posted by Kanonfodder

Cheap too didnt buy my Timmies the other day..oh wait Bloodhound did

Also gets jealous when HOT chicks wave at me and not him lol

I'm glad me and Kanon had a chance to coach Randy before his debut...


Just kidd'n pal, you did a great job, and I loved how my wife's jaw dropped when you made the "5 in the chest" comment, that was pure GOLD!!!!!
We both totally agreed with what you said.......

BH

[Jamie Black R/T]

Thank you Randy....again, you represented us all as good as any

Seriously buddy....THANKS!

[packhuntr]

Very well spoken, while digging your heels in that there are major underlying issues. Nice work!

[colt45]

Nice Job well done . your comment about the old lady protecting her self is right on,
Exactly as should be,the more people are allowed to protect themselves, the more the criminal will start to wunder about getting shot themselves.
The Canadian Association for Self Defense, is all for self protection, CASD.CA if anybody wants to check there site out/
Again excellent job Randy

[kennedy]

Great job Randy! Well done. Thanks for standing up for us.

[Mike_W]

Yeah like the "5 in the chest comment" like a page straight from Ted Nugget's manual!!!

[Jager]

Watched it with my wife last night and she dosn't really understand what we were all complaining about until after she watched the 15 minutes or so.

Good on you Randy for fly'n the flag for us all!

[huntinstuff]

Originally Posted by Mike_W

Yeah like the "5 in the chest comment" like a page straight from Ted Nugget's manual!!!

I find the best way to get the point across is to GET the point across....

If one person defended their life with a firearm, we would have 100% more success than the registry has when it comes to saving lives

[chubbdarter]

[QUOTE=Redfrog;1016345]Good job Randy!!1


Chubb. I don't believe the drop has anything to do with the registry. It could be the result of education. It could be the drop in ownership of firearms. It could be societal changes. Taking two unrelated stats and putting them together to prove a point is often done by politicians.





Thanks Redfrog for the explaination. Some of us who arent intimate with the gun issues appreciate the break down. The reason I taped it is my daughters U of L room mate is doing a paper on the Gun Registry and had approached me before knowing I hunted . I couldnt help her with anything of value, especially having not owned a firearm for 22 years now.
Im not the brightest bulb in the buildng but when she looked at me and was confussed after viewing the charts and stats, I knew I was going to be questioned for my beliefs. She has taken a completely neutral stand on the issue but knows Im against it on my belief that criminals arent about to register a gun.
I have forwarded your entire post to Her
Thanks

[mtylerb]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

I find the best way to get the point across is to GET the point across....

If one person defended their life with a firearm, we would have 100% more success than the registry has when it comes to saving lives

And ... if you're only counting the cost of the bullet(s):

5 shots at ~$0.78 = ~$3.90.

As opposed to ~$2,000,000,000.00+.

That's a 99.999999805% decrease in cost! Heck, even with the cost of a cheaper pistol:

Gun: ~$500
5 Shots: ~$3.90
Total: ~$503.90

That's still a 99.999974805% decrease in cost, with 100% more success!

[WkndWarrior]

Great Job Randy!

The tone of the the entire depate was in our favour, lets keep the momentum going on this...

[Albertadiver]

I just watched on the PVR.

Great job Randy. The ex chief was very much 'a suit' with lots of big words that weren't too offensive. Typical politician.

Nice to see a positive representation for a change. Too bad access is watched by maybe a half dozen viewers...

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by WkndWarrior

Great Job Randy!

The tone of the the entire depate was in our favour, lets keep the momentum going on this...

Honestly it wasn't really a debate...Randy and the Chief were on the same side and the only instigator was the interviewer I would have loved to see Randy sticking up for all of us up against a Lib/Dipper opponent.....now that would be television!

LC

[bb356]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

Just some cop who thinks the registry is crap....kinda has a big mouth but makes sense when he's sober

You ever live in FAIRVIEW ?

[2 Tollers]

Very nicely done --- thanks

Hugh

[greylynx]

Defending your life is not an "American" thing.... Its written into our constitution. The ability to do it with a golf club, lamp, firearm should not matter[/QUOTE]

Defending yourself is a right. That is the new approach being taken by anti-gun control groups in the U.S. Notice how the Second Amendment is not even being brought up.

Using the "rights" issue versus the gun issue has been found to create more distrust against the gun control groups by the general public according to Tom Greshams radio talk show called Gun Talk.

I think we gun owners should use the same approach of us having a right to defend ourselves.

The coalition for gun control says owning a gun is a privilege. That is not true when it takes my right to defend myself.

Thanks again Randy.

[huntinstuff]

Originally Posted by bb356

You ever live in FAIRVIEW ?

17 yrs

[TreeGuy]

Randy.......

THANK YOU!

[donabb]

Thank You Randy
Don

[huntinstuff]

Originally Posted by TreeGuy

Randy.......

THANK YOU!

You guys and gals are worth it.......

And it just goes to show ya.....they will put ANYONE on TV...