Go Back   Alberta Outdoorsmen Forum > Main Category > Archery Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-15-2014, 10:40 PM
SonofDixie's Avatar
SonofDixie SonofDixie is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 465
Default 2 blade broadheads

Hey Yall

Theres a million different types of broadhead.... and they all look the same to me. lol. The only ones that have really stood out to me though are the 2 blade broadheads.

Any of yall use em? What do you think?

I'm wanting to get some grizzlystik but $$$$$ yikes. Carbon express has a decent looking 2blade. Yall try it?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-15-2014, 10:43 PM
coyotekiller's Avatar
coyotekiller coyotekiller is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Central AB
Posts: 1,707
Default

i have been using NAP killzones and rage hypodermics, both great broadheads
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-15-2014, 10:48 PM
Lefty-Canuck's Avatar
Lefty-Canuck Lefty-Canuck is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Look behind you :)
Posts: 27,797
Default

I prefer 3 blade....two blade make a "slit", 3 blade make three flaps....three flaps bleed more and plug up less in my experience.

Used the Sonorans (Schwackers) don't like the way they stay shut and I lost a deer once that barely bled...so I switched to Grim Reapers and never looked back.

LC
__________________

Last edited by Lefty-Canuck; 11-15-2014 at 10:57 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-16-2014, 04:22 AM
edmhunter edmhunter is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Over That Hill
Posts: 3,872
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck View Post
I prefer 3 blade....two blade make a "slit", 3 blade make three flaps....three flaps bleed more and plug up less in my experience.

Used the Sonorans (Schwackers) don't like the way they stay shut and I lost a deer once that barely bled...so I switched to Grim Reapers and never looked back.

LC
LC I am thinking of switching to Grimm Reapers, which ones do you use? Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-16-2014, 07:40 AM
Lefty-Canuck's Avatar
Lefty-Canuck Lefty-Canuck is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Look behind you :)
Posts: 27,797
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by edmhunter View Post
LC I am thinking of switching to Grimm Reapers, which ones do you use? Thanks
100gr Razortips...I was put onto them by Normanrd and WCTbowtech. They have taken many animals with them before me and had excellent results.

LC
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-16-2014, 08:08 AM
Prdtrgttr's Avatar
Prdtrgttr Prdtrgttr is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Lethbridge
Posts: 749
Default

If you like the grims...try the Wasp Jak hammers out too. 1 3/4 cut! They are deadly!!!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-16-2014, 11:00 PM
pottymouth's Avatar
pottymouth pottymouth is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: In the 400's
Posts: 6,581
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck View Post
I prefer 3 blade....two blade make a "slit", 3 blade make three flaps....three flaps bleed more and plug up less in my experience.

Used the Sonorans (Schwackers) don't like the way they stay shut and I lost a deer once that barely bled...so I switched to Grim Reapers and never looked back.

LC
Best answer!

95% of the deer I've seen lost, were off 2 blade broadheads!
__________________
How to start an argument online:
1. Express an opinion
2. Wait ....
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-16-2014, 11:15 PM
petew petew is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Alberta
Posts: 2,824
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pottymouth View Post
Best answer!

95% of the deer I've seen lost, were off 2 blade broadheads!
If you put it where it belongs you won't be loosing animals. Shot placement is the key. marginal shots = marginal recovery even with a rifle.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-17-2014, 12:55 AM
pottymouth's Avatar
pottymouth pottymouth is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: In the 400's
Posts: 6,581
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by petew View Post
If you put it where it belongs you won't be loosing animals. Shot placement is the key. marginal shots = marginal recovery even with a rifle.
I didn't say I've lost any animals. ... i make my shots count...

Like LC stated, that flap closes quickly, and blood trails fade faster....
__________________
How to start an argument online:
1. Express an opinion
2. Wait ....
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-17-2014, 04:28 AM
petew petew is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Alberta
Posts: 2,824
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pottymouth View Post
Best answer!

95% of the deer I've seen lost, were off 2 blade broadheads!
Just how many lost deer have you watched the arrow penetrate that were 2 blades? 95% seems like it has been a lot of deer that were lost . If you don't see it go in you don't know if it was a bad shot or not. And how many people swear that it was a perfect shot only to find out it was a gut shot. It is always easy to blame the equipment instead of the monkey behind the string.
Typically a light blood trail isn't from a shot thru the lungs, or it is high up thru the lungs and the blood doesn't leak out like it will in the lower half of the lung cavity . low hits bleed more outside, high hits bleed into the lung cavity. Guts and legs don't bleed much .
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11-17-2014, 08:50 AM
pottymouth's Avatar
pottymouth pottymouth is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: In the 400's
Posts: 6,581
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by petew View Post
Just how many lost deer have you watched the arrow penetrate that were 2 blades? 95% seems like it has been a lot of deer that were lost . If you don't see it go in you don't know if it was a bad shot or not. And how many people swear that it was a perfect shot only to find out it was a gut shot. It is always easy to blame the equipment instead of the monkey behind the string.
Typically a light blood trail isn't from a shot thru the lungs, or it is high up thru the lungs and the blood doesn't leak out like it will in the lower half of the lung cavity . low hits bleed more outside, high hits bleed into the lung cavity. Guts and legs don't bleed much .
Pete, not arguing that shot placement is the most important. .. it is the most important. ....but when people call me to help them, 95% of the time, the constant variable i see is 2 blades....when you dont find the deer , you really dont know where they been hit. .. just my experience, 3 blades bring down more animals. ..even if the shot is buggered...from my experience. I also believe 3 blades fly better ....

You bleeding theory is correct for the most part.... but there are numerous factors that can change things.... hunt long enough and you'll witness all sorts of things.

Field points and blunt arrows will kill, with shot placement. ... but thats not the question. The question is 2 or 3 blades...without any other deciding factors....i will never put a two blade head on my arrows.....ever... just my opinion...doesnt make it wrong if you use two blades pete...its all opinion and preferences.
__________________
How to start an argument online:
1. Express an opinion
2. Wait ....

Last edited by pottymouth; 11-17-2014 at 08:55 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-15-2014, 10:50 PM
45-70sapper 45-70sapper is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 330
Default

As far as 2 blade broad heads are concerned, I've wanted to try the dirt nap drt's but I think you have to order them... And they have 2 bleeder blades so maybe not really a 2 blade but whatever. Youll get a lot of people saying to use grim reaper razortips or any grim reaper, they're an awesome Broadhead. Also a lot of people like slick tricks.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-15-2014, 11:14 PM
Pudelpointer Pudelpointer is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Back in Lethbridge
Posts: 4,647
Default

Someone says two-blade and I automatically think Zwickey and Magnus.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-15-2014, 11:15 PM
Lefty-Canuck's Avatar
Lefty-Canuck Lefty-Canuck is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Look behind you :)
Posts: 27,797
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pudelpointer View Post
Someone says two-blade and I automatically think Zwickey and Magnus.
Two blade fixed are totally different than two blade mechanicals IMHO.

LC
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-16-2014, 12:17 AM
3blade's Avatar
3blade 3blade is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 5,191
Default

Here we go ....

Physiologically speaking, what lefty said about flaps from 3 blades bleeding more is 100% correct. Also, a shallower angled blade (muzzy 3 blade) will penetrate better than a steep angle (muzzy mx3). A trocar tip design will out penetrate any other tip design, though a cut on contact blade (phantom) is better than a wedge.

Performance wise, mechanicals work until they don't. Anything with moving parts will fail eventually. The only place I see for a mechanical is if you hunt in high wind (>25km/hr) ex southern AB. With that being said, I do plan to set up mechanicals on some of my arrows for just that reason. You must be shooting enough arrow weight to have the energy to open consistently. And only take broadside shots, regardless of what commercials say. Pick one that has a positive locking design, elastics or clips, vs a passive blade tension design to avoid mid flight opening.

Make sure your bow is spec tuned, paper tuned, and walkback tuned. then you get to test broadheads. They all have to be spin tested, and shot at every range/angle you would shoot an animal at.

The carbon express 2 blade has a reputation for making a buzzing sound during flight. Never tried it myself.
__________________
“Nothing is more persistent than a liberal with a dumb idea” - Ebrand
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 11-17-2014, 04:16 AM
petew petew is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Alberta
Posts: 2,824
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck View Post
Two blade fixed are totally different than two blade mechanicals IMHO.

LC
Definitely diferent.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:11 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.