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06-18-2012, 09:44 PM
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Outfitter Illegally Sold Bighorn Sheep Permits to an American?
Details are sketchy and convoluted, but the gist seems to be that an American puchased Alberta Bighorn Sheep Outfitter Permits from the new Mantracker, Chad Lenz ( Savage Encounters Outfitting).
I look forward to F&W's and APOS's statement after the court case.
http://www.calgarysun.com/2012/06/18...ighorn-permits
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The relationship between a U.S. trophy hunter and TV’s new Mantracker was less than “warm and fuzzy,” a Calgary court heard Monday.
Bruce Morgan testified he had an arrangement with Chad Savage Lenz, the new star of OLN’s Mantracker, to lease bighorn sheep hunting permits on his behalf.
Morgan, who is suing Lenz claiming breach of trust and breach of contract, said he purchased two hunting permits for non-resident Albertans for $105,000.
But after having troubles dealing with getting payment from Lenz for the 2005 and 2006, hunting seasons, he decided to look for a different hunting outfitter to handle the leases.
Morgan said he didn’t receive the $20,000 paid by hunters to use the permits in those years from Lenz until December, 2006.
The plaintiff admitted to Lenz’s lawyer, John Boulton, he transferred the lease agreement to another outfitter in 2007, without telling the defendant he wouldn’t have them available for hunters.
“If I had an agreement with someone that I hadn’t paid them ... I probably wouldn’t be booking any hunts in the future,” Morgan said.
“We didn’t have a warm and fuzzy relationship in December, 2006.”
Morgan said when he purchased the permits he consulted with a lawyer who informed him he’d need a local connection, such as Lenz, to lease the permits to hunters.
“He explained those permits would always have to be held my an Albertan, a Class-S guide,” he told lawyer Teddy Nobles.
Morgan is seeking a court declaration the permits are his and damages for lost income while they’ve been under Lenz’s control.
Lenz, of Caroline, has countersued and is also seeking damages.
He was introduced as the new Mantracker last month, replacing Terry Grant, who had starred for the first six seasons of the show.
Lenz is set to testify Tuesday.
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06-18-2012, 10:15 PM
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is he the same outfitter i seen on tv taking Tom Miranda Big horn sheep hunting with a bow>> seen it on wild tv
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06-18-2012, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cochranenite
is he the same outfitter i seen on tv taking Tom Miranda Big horn sheep hunting with a bow>> seen it on wild tv
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Yup, same...
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06-18-2012, 10:40 PM
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This shall prove interesting!
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06-18-2012, 10:45 PM
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Tell me again how good it is that outfitters are sold tags that Albertans can't get?
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06-18-2012, 10:49 PM
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Gone Hunting
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I'd wait till ALL the info comes out before I'd be feeling too froggy on this one.
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06-18-2012, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rocky7
Tell me again how good it is that outfitters are sold tags that Albertans can't get?
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I trust that was a rhetorical question... right?
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06-19-2012, 12:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by walking buffalo
Details are sketchy and convoluted, but the gist seems to be that an American puchased Alberta Bighorn Sheep Outfitter Permits from the new Mantracker, Chad Lenz ( Savage Encounters Outfitting).
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He did not purchase them from chad I think he purchased them with chad.
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06-19-2012, 12:34 AM
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What AB animals died illegally in this case?
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06-19-2012, 06:35 AM
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Good post Walking Buffalo. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Lenz and his guides have always been in trouble in this area for a variety of things. He should have got a better lawyer though if he intends to win the case.
Talking about selling tags to Americans, another outfitter who lives on the other side of highway 22 from Lenz sold his permits to an American consortium. I believe a Resident here holds the permits for them. All legal so I am told.
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