Discrimination Runs High in Sask. Hunting Regs

gevarm guy · #1 10-05-2010, 02:35 PM

Anyone noticed that Saskatchewan went to a 7 day hunting week EXCEPT if your a Canadian resident. As an Alberta resident hunting there you don't deserve the same right to 7 days. Plus next year you need to draw just to hunt there and no its not because there is a shortage of deer. Its because resident hunters keep whining that you might shoot the big one that got away on them!! Some purely prejiduce decisions imo.

mtylerb · #2 10-05-2010, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gevarm guy

Anyone noticed that Saskatchewan went to a 7 day hunting week EXCEPT if your a Canadian resident. As an Alberta resident hunting there you don't deserve the same right to 7 days. Plus next year you need to draw just to hunt there and no its not because there is a shortage of deer. Its because resident hunters keep whining that you might shoot the big one that got away on them!! Some purely prejiduce decisions imo.

Three words should make you understand:

New Democratic Party (NDP)

Now do you understand?

blackpheasant · #3 10-05-2010, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mtylerb

Three words should make you understand:

New Democratic Party (NDP)

Now do you understand?

MT NDP's got ousted by the "right of center" Saskatchewan Party in 2007....

Mhunter51 · #4 10-05-2010, 04:00 PM

Gevarm Guy -- you have to go back and read the dates in the regs. White-tailed deer for Canadian residents in ALL zones from 56 to 69 including nine wildlife and provincial parks are open to canadian residents from Sept 1 to Oct 31 with a muzzle loader and Nov 1 to Nov 30 with a rifle and that includes Sundays -- Thats 7 days a week in case yoiu can't find that in the guide. Only the southern heavily populated ( with people that is ) zones are Nov 25 to 30. So don't tell people that all zones are 5 days long for Canadian residents when you can actually hunt for two months -- 7 days a week.

Chet · #5 10-05-2010, 04:08 PM

Sask certainly looks for opportunities to benefit from non-resident hunters and I can't really blame them. The guys that just come for a weekend or don't even overnight in sask may leave with a deer but don't leave many tourism dollars and that is the bottom line.

mclean · #6 10-05-2010, 04:53 PM

Sask. has a proper management plan in place concerning wildlife, i say good for them. Alberta should take a good look at how Sask. looks after their fish and wildlife do the same in this province.

mtylerb · #7 10-06-2010, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by blackpheasant

MT NDP's got ousted by the "right of center" Saskatchewan Party in 2007....

I stand corrected. I don't know what map I was last looking at, but I was sure it was a lot of yellow.

Mhunter51 · #8 10-06-2010, 03:03 PM

Kale, I think you hit it right on the money. There should never have been a three deer season, particularily in the forest zones. Our wildlife people in the supposed " know " have a reputation of being reactive instead of being proactive. They did the same thing in zones 9 and 10 around Cabri with Mule Deer a number of years ago. They received some crop and hay damage complaints and put in a season for a total of four mule deer per person with antlered and 3 antlerless tags. People got three antlerless and guess which ones the harvested -- the large mature does. That zone was decimated of mature fawn producing does and still has not rebounded. In the northern zones that allow non-resident guided American hunters they allowed them to harvest two whitetail bucks. They would shoot the first 130 ish class deer that showed itself ( just to return home with some trophy ) and then site for the rest of the week waiting for a larger deer. A guided hunt should have never been for two deer. Kale, I wish you good hunting and luck in the november hunt.

ishootbambi · #9 10-06-2010, 04:48 PM

saskatchewan manages much of their big game with trophy size animals in mind. alberta manages most of the province for hunter opportunity with little focus on trophy quality. i guess it depends which camp you are in which way is better. the move to limit can residents has much more to do with outspoken residents complaining about trophy quality and not so much to do with hunter numbers and the size of the herd. there will be a lot of small towns that will feel the economic pinch from a reduction in touring hunters. the loudest complaints came from the hunsond bay areas and meadow lake areas where acces to the forest is basically one road and they turn into superhighways during the week canadians are allowed. changes are likely, and it wont be for the better of the herd, or the province as a whole....though it will be a relief to the small areas mentioned. once the changes are in place, go ask hotels and gas stations in those 2 towns what they think. it will hurt a lot of small towns, but those 2 will be the hardest hit by far.

Redfrog · #10 10-05-2010, 02:42 PM

Does Alberta use the same regulations for Residents and non residents as well, or do we have a different set of rules for those who do not live here?

LongDraw · #11 10-05-2010, 02:55 PM

Looks to me like Saskatchewan has it figured out!

Espo · #12 10-05-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LongDraw

Looks to me like Saskatchewan has it figured out!

I totally agree. It's time for Alberta to follow suit.
B.C. charges a daily rate for non-res fishing on certain waters. Alberta should do the same.

Mhunter51 · #13 10-05-2010, 03:04 PM

So, gevarm guy- your saying that as a non-resident you should get the same number of hunting days and be able to hunt where-ever you want in the province as a resident. You must have damaged something getting out from under that rock. Can I come over to Alberta ( or Manitoba ) and hunt ( by myself with no hunter-host ) were-ever and whenever I want. No and I shouldn't be allowed too. The regs are changing so non-residents have to put in for a draw to limite the numbers coming in to one or another particular area. Long over due. And YES it is because in a lot of areas the deer population has taken a sh**-kicking from the winters of 07-08 and 08-09. There are areas where you could litterally find a hundred deer in a logging clearing two winters ago that couldn't make it because of deep snow and no food. add to that wolves, outfitters, non-resident hunters, subsistance hunters and local resident hunters. They can not keep up. Again -- LONG OVERDUE !!!!!!!!

Floppy · #14 10-07-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mhunter51

So, gevarm guy- your saying that as a non-resident you should get the same number of hunting days and be able to hunt where-ever you want in the province as a resident. You must have damaged something getting out from under that rock. Can I come over to Alberta ( or Manitoba ) and hunt ( by myself with no hunter-host ) were-ever and whenever I want. No and I shouldn't be allowed too. The regs are changing so non-residents have to put in for a draw to limite the numbers coming in to one or another particular area. Long over due. And YES it is because in a lot of areas the deer population has taken a sh**-kicking from the winters of 07-08 and 08-09. There are areas where you could litterally find a hundred deer in a logging clearing two winters ago that couldn't make it because of deep snow and no food. add to that wolves, outfitters, non-resident hunters, subsistance hunters and local resident hunters. They can not keep up. Again -- LONG OVERDUE !!!!!!!!

you took the words right out of my mouth

Okotokian · #15 10-07-2010, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gevarm guy

Anyone noticed that Saskatchewan went to a 7 day hunting week EXCEPT if your a Canadian resident. As an Alberta resident hunting there you don't deserve the same right to 7 days. Plus next year you need to draw just to hunt there and no its not because there is a shortage of deer. Its because resident hunters keep whining that you might shoot the big one that got away on them!! Some purely prejiduce decisions imo.

I have no problem with that. It's their province and game, they can do anything they want with it, just like we can if we choose.

Now if you want the same regulation and access rights across the country I'm sure we could lobby the Federal Government to take over legal jurisdiction..... ahhhh, I thought not. LOL

dgl1948 · #16 10-07-2010, 08:49 PM

The reason for putting a draw for out of province hunters is to properly manage game populations. I live in a zone on the Man/Sask border. Just about every hunter from Man. stops and hunts in the first zone they come to on the border. This puts far to much presure on these zones. How can you manage the harvest if you have no control on the number of hunters? I am sure this goes for most coming from Alberta as well. This leave a lot of zones that could use more hunters. By going to a draw there will still be lots of oportunity to hunt but some may have to travel into central zones. Another problem with non resident hunters is that they all come to shoot a buck. This seems to be the norm for local hunters as well. In order to off set this some zones offer one or two doe tags to help balance the population. One of the greatest threats to population numbers here is that there is a lot less habitat to support the populations. trees are getting harder to find and draining to gain acres has seen dramatic increases in the last few years. Farmland zones do not have the populations they had at one time. The forest fringe zones have been real good untill the last couple of winters and they have been devostated with the amount of snow that they had.

I am sure you will see non resident controls in other provinces as populations decrease or hunters increase as well. I am a firm believer that you cannot stockpile wildlife. There are years when the surplus increases and the hunters coming across borders should increase as well but the oposite is true as well. One thing for sure is the farmland zones will never see the populations they have had in the past.