Trump doomed

elk396 · #1 10-13-2016, 10:46 AM

I know there have been recent news bias threads on here, but just have to say the news agencies are mostly a joke these days, they push whatever their agenda is. All the new wiki-leaks stuff out on Hillary, but not one bite by the news, all on 30 year old unproven groping by Trump. CNN has shocked me on this. They just won't let it go. No wonder the middle easterners are trying to level the west, it's becoming a joke here.

Big Sky · #2 10-13-2016, 10:58 AM

Groping is more titillating.

The Elkster · #3 10-13-2016, 11:02 AM

The PC crowd is definitely having a conniption fit over trump. I personally hate the guy as a person but some of his comments are not off the mark and I love more than anything else that he thumbs his finger at political correctness and refuses to kowtow to MSM and bleeding hearts. Masses of people are so fed up with the encroachment of PC madness and media manipulation that Trump actually has a solid chance of winning...despite himself.

That says something about just how bad PC crap and political manipulation has gotten and how much people are just sick of it. So sick they will go with Trump rather than put up with another second of the status quo. Nov 9 is going to be very very interesting. If Trump wins MSM just might implode. It'll make the NDP winning AB look like chicken feed. Oh the wailing that'll ensue.

Stinky Buffalo · #4 10-13-2016, 11:11 AM

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Oh the wailing that'll ensue.

Oh, pretty sure wailing will ensue if Hilary wins as well.

Large portions of the US electorate have gotten a glimpse of the possibility of an alternative - Having that yanked away from them will not sit will with them.

No matter who wins, our neighbours to the south will feel the effects of this division for a long time. If it leads to any kind of uprising, expect the boots to come down hard.

Stustage · #5 10-13-2016, 11:16 AM

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The PC crowd is definitely having a conniption fit over trump. I personally hate the guy as a person but some of his comments are not off the mark and I love more than anything else that he thumbs his finger at political correctness and refuses to kowtow to MSM and bleeding hearts. Masses of people are so fed up with the encroachment of PC madness and media manipulation that Trump actually has a solid chance of winning...despite himself.

That says something about just how bad PC crap and political manipulation has gotten and how much people are just sick of it. So sick they will go with Trump rather than put up with another second of the status quo. Nov 9 is going to be very very interesting. If Trump wins MSM just might implode. It'll make the NDP winning AB look like chicken feed. Oh the wailing that'll ensue.

I agree I like that he isn't some pc pansy. The down side is Obama can push the tension with Russia over the edge, go to war and never have to leave office. wouldn't that be great the nobel peace prize holder taking us to ww3.

bat119 · #6 10-13-2016, 11:29 AM

Elections used to be about voting for the party and the nominees promises for change or improvements in government. Now its the media slinging mud to demean the candidate they don't support much the same way we got stuck with our current leader.

avb3 · #7 10-13-2016, 11:38 AM

The USA had two bad choices. Trump was the worse and did himself in. Over the top never wins.

Sashi · #8 10-13-2016, 11:40 AM

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Elections used to be about voting for the party and the nominees promises for change or improvements in government. Now its the media slinging mud to demean the candidate they don't support much the same way we got stuck with our current leader.

X2
The media no longer delivers the news, it is all about their leftist and corporate opinion. Guess I'll just have to watch more John Wayne westerns.

The Elkster · #9 10-13-2016, 11:42 AM

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....much the same way we got stuck with our current leader.

and the one before that, and the one before that and so on...

The Elkster · #10 10-13-2016, 11:38 AM

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I agree I like that he isn't some pc pansy. The down side is Obama can push the tension with Russia over the edge, go to war and never have to leave office. wouldn't that be great the nobel peace prize holder taking us to ww3.

I'll send you a tinfoil hat just forward your address.

"Oh, pretty sure wailing will ensue if Hilary wins as well."

If Hillary wins there will be wailing but it'll be the same wailing as there always is after an election. Hillary = politically things will remain exactly the same as under the last 20 presidents with the same old establishment doing the same ol' things. Liars and cheats have always saturated gov't. on both sides of the floor. Hillary is hardly the first and won't be the last. If a conservative did the same thing Hillary has done conservatives would be finding excuses and working to burying it just as the Dem's have. All part of politics and political bias these days. Lying, cheating and stealing are okay as long as it supports one's own interests. How much do con's bring up Bush going to war over weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist and for which they had no proof? How many soldiers died for that? Hmmmmm

Trump = who knows what for the establishment. People will freak at the uncertainty. Markets, politicians and MSM will all fear. Trump is not scared to upset people. The aforementioned thrive on fear to control people and politicians. Interesting times.

husky hunter · #11 10-13-2016, 11:48 AM

The media is always socialist....they are parasites hooked onto the government...the higher the taxes the more coming to them...lots of back room deals...too bad so many people are too stupid to realize it.

Okotokian · #12 10-13-2016, 11:55 AM

Soooo.... the media just made up Trumps quote about how he just grabs women by their genitals? LOL

Half of the electorate just got told what the candidate thinks of them.

sirmike68 · #13 10-13-2016, 11:59 AM

Just watched Trumps speech on CNN and throughout the whole time CNN had their ticker tape scrolling non-stop spew and accusations against Trump the whole time. I hope the Americans see past all the media crap.

ak-71 · #14 10-13-2016, 11:44 AM

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I agree I like that he isn't some pc pansy. The down side is Obama can push the tension with Russia over the edge, go to war and never have to leave office. wouldn't that be great the nobel peace prize holder taking us to ww3.

Russian MSM are directly saying that the US is conspiring with terror groups, including ISIS in Mosul to topple Assad, all these "relative evacuation leaks", Lavrov's comment on USA elections (very uncharacteristic)- looks like Russians are loosing their cool for some idiotic reason.
May be it's just a calculated propaganda game on both sides, but it sure looks scary, because I can't see any common sense in what is going on.

It looks like a lot of posturing, kind of a chicken game with all the Syrian government positions bombed, convoy destroyed, anti-aircraft complex deployment show, constant blaming each other for every event, now USA and Iran poking at each other in Yemen - that I just hope who ever Americans vote for can keep some cool, and figure out the way of the mess.
But yes anything related to grubbing, even verbal mentioning of it will decide the election, scary times.

58thecat · #15 10-13-2016, 03:31 PM

He touched me in 2005.... Meh!

tri777 · #16 10-13-2016, 06:49 PM

psst...(to all Trump supporters)

Newview01 · #17 10-13-2016, 08:01 PM

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psst...(to all Trump supporters)

Seems juicy, but there was supposed to be an October surprise that we have yet to see.. The problem is that the people we need to swing the vote to Trump's favour rely on MSM, who we know will publish nothing that can hurt Hillary.

The Elkster · #18 10-13-2016, 08:09 PM

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Seems juicy, but there was supposed to be an October surprise that we have yet to see.. The problem is that the people we need to swing the vote to Trump's favour rely on MSM, who we know will publish nothing that can hurt Hillary.

Not so sure. IMO that is the big unknown with this election. There are a lot of people fed up with the whole establishment and doing a fair bit of searching and questioning beyond the MSM. Election night will tell the tale but I suspect if not this election then the next will see a shocker on account of citizens bucking the trend of falling for MSM and party propaganda.

avb3 · #19 10-13-2016, 08:15 PM

The officers who actually have to launch the nuclear missiles have come out against Trump:

https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc...ear-launch.pdf

They just don't trust his judgement.

Newview01 · #20 10-13-2016, 08:18 PM

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Not so sure. IMO that is the big unknown with this election. There are a lot of people fed up with the whole establishment and doing a fair bit of searching and questioning beyond the MSM. Election night will tell the tale but I suspect if not this election then the next will see a shocker on account of citizens bucking the trend of falling for MSM and party propaganda.

If Hillary gets in, there won't be a next election.

Macdrizzle · #21 10-13-2016, 10:20 PM

clinton news network - bought and paid for by the clinton foundation.

bigskinner · #22 10-14-2016, 01:04 AM

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUMP , we need one like him up here

dawei88 · #23 10-14-2016, 09:07 PM

Voting is gonna be rigged, Trump don't have much chance.

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avb3 · #24 10-14-2016, 09:21 PM

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Voting is gonna be rigged, Trump don't have much chance.

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Want to explain how it is rigged? Do you even understand that in the USA there is no central election bureaucracy like in Canada?

So, explain how it will be rigged.

ak-71 · #25 10-14-2016, 09:34 PM

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Want to explain how it is rigged? Do you even understand that in the USA there is no central election bureaucracy like in Canada?

So, explain how it will be rigged.

Ask me how it might be

My CV for the job - I am Russian.

avb3 · #26 10-14-2016, 10:33 PM

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Ask me how it might be

My CV for the job - I am Russian.

Nope, don't answer the question. The USA does not have one particular way of running an election; each state is different.

ak-71 · #27 10-14-2016, 10:38 PM

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Nope, don't answer the question. The USA does not have one particular way of running an election; each state is different.

And yet, I can fix it for you, theoretically
There are multiple tools in my toolbox. It may seem hard, but it's been done before. Yes we can again!

rugatika · #28 10-14-2016, 09:40 PM

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Want to explain how it is rigged? Do you even understand that in the USA there is no central election bureaucracy like in Canada?

So, explain how it will be rigged.

Lone wolf vote riggers.

You always hear about someone doing 5 votes here, 50 votes there. etc

I don't think it's any big central conspiracy, just certain individuals that take it upon themselves to advance their cause.

Wasn't there some Reserve in Northern Saskatchewan or Manitoba where everyone got a TV if they showed up to vote or something? Of course they all voted Lib, but it was under the radar as a get out the vote thing.

Some guy in Colorado or California just got caught registering a few hundred dead guys. Virginia. http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2016...vote-virginia/ etc etc etc

It always seems to be lefty's doing it, but that could just be my selective memory kicking in.

ak-71 · #29 10-14-2016, 10:25 PM

Armatures, what do you have more - money or control over the voting sites?
Money - massive "merry go rounds", control of sites (or lack of independent control) - "stuffing" (particularities may vary on the box construction). There are much more involved options, tin foil on, not cheap, but historically proven about 146% (c) efficient.

Newview01 · #30 10-14-2016, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by avb3

Want to explain how it is rigged? Do you even understand that in the USA there is no central election bureaucracy like in Canada?

So, explain how it will be rigged.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/13/...l-heres-proof/