Cocked or uncocked bolt storage

[JWCalgary]

In my brain I would think that for storage one should store the bolt of your rifle in the fired position to relieve the pressure from the firing pin. How do you store your bolt cocked or uncocked? I would have to manually decock my rifles to store this way and am wondering if I should do this season to season. Day to day. Your thoughts are appreciated

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[catnthehat]

All my rifles are stored uncocked
Cat

[JWCalgary]

I just noticed the topic header spelling. ... Sorry for the misspell. Meant to say cocked or uncocked

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[TrollGRG]

Originally Posted by JWCalgary

I just noticed the topic header spelling. ... Sorry for the misspell. Meant to say cocked or uncocked

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So change it.

[JWCalgary]

Originally Posted by TrollGRG

So change it.

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[Pathfinder76]

Uncocked. Always.

[JWCalgary]

Thanks cat. I will do that as well.

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[Battle Rat]

A spring does not get weak from being kept compressed but from cycling.
The amount of cycles that a gun spring goes through is relatively small compared to, say a car spring.
No harm in un-cocking but you wouldn't cause any harm by leaving it cocked either.

[catnthehat]

I don't store mine cocked because of safety procedure , nothing to do with springs
Cat

[DanOO]

I highly recommend that firing pin springs be stored with the least amount of compression on them as you can get.
If you can accurately measure spring pressure you will find over time (years) that springs will loose lbs of resistance. Maybe not enough to cause misfires.
I have change out springs that have been compressed or shortened by as much as 3/16" in a two year time frame.
I believe you will find that most steels used in the firearms industry will take a set if left in a bent or compressed state.

[Jeron Kahyar]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

I don't store mine cocked because of safety procedure , nothing to do with springs
Cat

Care to elaborate on this one? How is uncocking make it safer?

Just curios as the the reasoning behind it. If I'm overlooking something perhaps it is time I change my storage habits.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by Jeron Kahyar

Care to elaborate on this one? How is uncocking make it safer?

Just curios as the the reasoning behind it. If I'm overlooking something perhaps it is time I change my storage habits.

I said " safety procedure" notbthat it makes the gun safer.
That is, if the firearm is not being shot it is open or at the very least uncocked .
Most bolt actions can visibly be seen as cocked or uncocked as can hammer guns
If the firearm is cocjed it normally has a round in it.
This is the reason many disciplines require open actions when not actually being shot , some require chamber flags, etc.
Cat

[bat119]

I store mine bolts, mags out -- stored separately
slides and cylinders out-- stored separately
Hammers down
I'm uncocked as possible

[6.5x47 lapua]

Originally Posted by Battle Rat

A spring does not get weak from being kept compressed but from cycling.
The amount of cycles that a gun spring goes through is relatively small compared to, say a car spring.
No harm in un-cocking but you wouldn't cause any harm by leaving it cocked either.

this. it is well documented that it is exactly this.

[Pathfinder76]

So what was the upside of storing them compressed or cocked again?

[fish_e_o]

Originally Posted by chuck

So what was the upside of storing them compressed or cocked again?

sometimes you're not in an area where it is acceptable to pull the trigger on a rifle.

myself, i don't like pulling the trigger on a rifle unless it's a place and direction where it's safe to shoot. sometimes people get too complacent with firearms safety.

[West O'5]

Originally Posted by Battle Rat

A spring does not get weak from being kept compressed but from cycling.
The amount of cycles that a gun spring goes through is relatively small compared to, say a car spring.
No harm in un-cocking but you wouldn't cause any harm by leaving it cocked either.

THIS^^
Same goes for mags.....stored empty or charged doesn't make a fiddler's fart worth of difference,it's the cycling of a spring that weakens it.

[calgarychef]

Originally Posted by West O'5

THIS^^
Same goes for mags.....stored empty or charged doesn't make a fiddler's fart worth of difference,it's the cycling of a spring that weakens it.

Don't go confusing things with actual facts

[JWCalgary]

The real question was related to *bolt* storage in the cocked or uncocked position. My bolt actions allow me to close the bolt while depressing the trigger, putting the rifle (bolt in) in a decocked position. But the bolt has to stay in the rifle while being stored. I typically pull the bolts for added security in the house and the only way to uncock the bolts are to manually decock them. Was just wondering how others do it.

Interesting that the cycling of the action would cause more spring wear.



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[Smokinyotes]

This really isnt rocket science. Remove the mag check the chamber, squeeze the trigger, close the bolt. Voila.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by Smokinyotes

This really isnt rocket science. Remove the mag check the chamber, squeeze the trigger, close the bolt. Voila.

It really is as simple as that.

[Stally77]

Originally Posted by smokinyotes

this really isnt rocket science. Remove the mag check the chamber, squeeze the trigger, close the bolt. Voila.

x 2

[Bigiron]

Originally Posted by Smokinyotes

This really isnt rocket science. Remove the mag check the chamber, squeeze the trigger, close the bolt. Voila.

Seems simple enough to me.... didn't realize there was such concern with bolt cocked or not, mag in or mag out, firing pin fired or firing pin set.....

[Jeron Kahyar]

Originally Posted by Bigiron

Seems simple enough to me.... didn't realize there was such concern with bolt cocked or not, mag in or mag out, firing pin fired or firing pin set.....

You must be new here, any excuse to argue is exploited to its fullest extent around here.

Try asking "Muzzle up or down in the truck?"

[CNP]

Originally Posted by Jeron Kahyar

You must be new here, any excuse to argue is exploited to its fullest extent around here.

Try asking "Muzzle up or down in the truck?"

or;

still-hunting with a round chambered...

[fps plus]

In the real world it will make no difference . If you feel better about leaving decocked do it .

[gitrdun]

Boring forum if that's what concerns you.

[last minute]

Originally Posted by JWCalgary

In my brain I would think that for storage one should store the bolt of your rifle in the fired position to relieve the pressure from the firing pin. How do you store your bolt cocked or uncocked? I would have to manually decock my rifles to store this way and am wondering if I should do this season to season. Day to day. Your thoughts are appreciated

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no not buying that but that's you and your guns i leave mine uncocked,