Customs BANS "Centrifugal Knives"

[IronNoggin]

The Canadian International Trade Tribunal has decided that all "centrifugal opening knives" are now classified as Prohibited Weapons in Canada.

This was not in response to a perceived problem. It is however a fine example of bureaucratic meddling:

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publicati...18-01-eng.html

Shortly after that announcement, I ordered several more from Canadian sources.

I have carried an SOG Twitch XL for as long as I can remember.
And I ain't about to quit. Period.

Cheers,
Nog

[3blade]

How is it that we have unelected pencil pushers making law?

Kanuckistan. That's why.

They are going to have one hell of a time enforcing this as pretty well every folding knife can be opened in such a manner. I predict a very expensive Supreme Court challenge for whatever poor soul is the royal gestapos next victim of overreach.

[CF8889]

Am I undetstanding this correct...any folding knife that can be opened by flicking your wrist or using a little knob on the side/back is prohibited?

So the little kershaw assisted open pocket knife my girlfriend uses when camping is now illegal? Jesus...

[ETOWNCANUCK]

So big ass Rambo type knives are ok,
But most pocket knives are not?


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AdZsF45yy9E

[tirebob]

Such bullcrap... A knife is a knife is a knife. This is really getting ridiculous!!

[dmcbride]

My 7 year old is now a criminal.

[averagejoe]

Be aware that is only affects customs/border and not actual Canadian law. Customs has been pushing their authority for a long time now.

They have another "Tribunal" decision that lets them adjust pivot screws so they can loosen them to make a legal knife into a "prohibited" one.

This decision allows them to open any folding knife however much they want, even to 99% and then try to flick it open. Even a Swiss Army knife would fail under those conditions.

I have emphasized a bit of the link, the "CBSA resolves that" so it is not actual Canadian law, just over reach by the CBSA.

2. In accordance with subsection 84(1) of the Criminal Code and the CITT’s recent decision in T. LaPlante, the CBSA resolves that centrifugal knives will be classified as prohibited weapons if the following conditions are met:

a knife has a blade that opens by centrifugal force, when the blade is released from the handle into the fully ejected and locked position with a simple and brisk outwardly flick of the wrist; and
it includes knives that require some preliminary or simultaneous minimal manipulation of either a flipper or other non-edged parts of the blade.

[sillyak]

Prohibited from import or prohibited weapon? I only saw import prohibition in that link.

[parfleche]

Makes you wonder if some individuals don,t wake up some days and say Hey! Lets ban something !
The fact that a person can open a knife by flicking it outward or pull it out of a sheath makes no difference EXCEPT if you have watched too many gangster movies ! You can only be so dead or so sliced regardless of how the knife was used! Probably because it brings mafia connotations into the picture!

[Twisted Canuck]

It's bureaucratic power grasping. I ordered a knife from the USA a few years back, to save some money, and CBA grabbed it. I appealed and sent them a document with links showing that no fewer than 12 retailers sold the same knife in AB, from Cabelas, Basspro, Wholesale, to Canadian Tire. They said that it doesn't matter, a determination had been made that it was 'mechanical assisted' and therefore prohib. It was a kershaw blur, they still sell them here, and I have a couple, but CBA cost me $75 on that one, plus a bunch of my (wasted) time fighting with them.

[Hillbilly 12]

To bad they wouldn't ban terrorists, murders, drug dealers, rapists, thieves, child sex offenders, welfare bums, druggies, and the rest or the losers from our country, and what a country it would be.

But people keep telling me we are moving it the right direction, unreal what next.

[Ken07AOVette]

Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck

It's bureaucratic power grasping. I ordered a knife from the USA a few years back, to save some money, and CBA grabbed it. I appealed and sent them a document with links showing that no fewer than 12 retailers sold the same knife in AB, from Cabelas, Basspro, Wholesale, to Canadian Tire. They said that it doesn't matter, a determination had been made that it was 'mechanical assisted' and therefore prohib. It was a kershaw blur, they still sell them here, and I have a couple, but CBA cost me $75 on that one, plus a bunch of my (wasted) time fighting with them.

My wife had a very nice Spyderco that someone in the airport system helped themselves to on the way back from Hawaii a couple years ago. We didn't get any note though.

[Scottmisfits]

A knife as simple as my Outdoor Edge Razorlite could be included in this. No spring at all but very easy one handed opening. I have a CRKT Shennanigan that has no spring but I can open with just the flick of a wrist. Both of them are great hunting knives. Do I “need” either one of them? Nope. But how does that make them any more dangerous than my Buck 119?

[blacknorthernjk]

Guess I'll need to educate myself on just what this tribunal quasi judicial group is

[Rig 44]

So my new go to hunting knife out door edge zip & flip is going to be prohibited because it has a thumb stud and all it takes to open it is my thumb instead of two fingers and both hands ???

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by Rig 44

So my new go to hunting knife out door edge zip & flip is going to be prohibited because it has a thumb stud and all it takes to open it is my thumb instead of two fingers and both hands ???

Won't be prohibited, you just won't be able to get it across the border.
Cat

[Jeron Kahyar]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

Won't be prohibited, you just won't be able to get it across the border.
Cat

I wouldnt say that so quickly. The CBSA only seems to be putting a definition to wording already in Canadian law.

Section 84 of the criminal code:

prohibited weapon

(a)*a knife that has a blade that opens automatically by gravity or centrifugal force or by hand pressure applied to a button, spring or other device in or attached to the handle of the knife, or

(b)*any weapon, other than a firearm, that is prescribed to be a prohibited weapon; (arme prohibée)


This may be the start of enforcing this.

[AdAMxr]

Hmm doesn't add up to me. Quickest assisted opener kept in someone's pocket is still slower than a fixed blade on someone's hip. No matter how quick you can enable the blade it's still and extra step. Must be the intimidation factor?

Pretty sad this is what border security is concerning themselves with. Every kitchen in this country has knives that would make better weapons than joe blows pocket knife.

[mattthegorby]

Originally Posted by AdAMxr

Hmm doesn't add up to me. Quickest assisted opener kept in someone's pocket is still slower than a fixed blade on someone's hip. No matter how quick you can enable the blade it's still and extra step. Must be the intimidation factor?

Exactly what confuses me about the whole thing.

Matt