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12-07-2013, 08:50 AM
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Suffield Elk Hunt, Fair Chase?
I know, I know, the Mod's are watching this topic closely and I'm not looking to start any trouble here but I was curious about any Boone and Crockett records being able to come out of CFB Suffield? Here's what it says on their website:
SUBSISTENCE LICENSES
In general, trophies taken with a subsistence license/permit are acceptable for entry in the Awards Programs and listing in the Club’s records books so long as they meet all the Club’s entry requirements, including all aspects of fair chase.
My question is does Boone and Crockett view Suffield as a fair chase or is it more of a farm hunt and not eligible for records?
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12-07-2013, 08:57 AM
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Those r not penned elk no problem jumping a barbwire fence
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12-07-2013, 08:58 AM
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Hope to draw a archery tag next year to man i cant wait
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12-07-2013, 10:01 AM
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My question is does Boone and Crockett view Suffield as a fair chase or is it more of a farm hunt and not eligible for records?
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What pound test is attached to this?
Suffield is the same size as the State of Rhode Island.
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12-07-2013, 08:57 AM
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FAIR CHASE STATEMENT
FAIR CHASE, as defined by the Boone and Crockett Club, is the ethical, sportsmanlike, and lawful pursuit and taking of any free-ranging wild, native North American big game animal in a manner that does not give the hunter an improper advantage over such animals.
You decide, sounds like a fair chase hunt to me though.
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12-07-2013, 10:30 AM
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What about found wildlife ? How does that fit into fairchase?
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12-07-2013, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by OpenRange
I know, I know, the Mod's are watching this topic closely and I'm not looking to start any trouble here but I was curious about any Boone and Crockett records being able to come out of CFB Suffield? Here's what it says on their website:
SUBSISTENCE LICENSES
In general, trophies taken with a subsistence license/permit are acceptable for entry in the Awards Programs and listing in the Club’s records books so long as they meet all the Club’s entry requirements, including all aspects of fair chase.
My question is does Boone and Crockett view Suffield as a fair chase or is it more of a farm hunt and not eligible for records?
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Explain how Suffield resembles a farm at all?
You realize the elk are free to come and go as they please, no one puts feed out for them or milks them every morning.....
LC
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12-07-2013, 10:55 AM
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A "farm" hunt might be a bit drastic but there is no question these animals are not truly wild. My opinion thats all, an informed one though.
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12-07-2013, 11:05 AM
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A "farm" hunt might be a bit drastic but there is no question these animals are not truly wild. My opinion thats all, an informed one though.
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Please explain ....... looking forward to hearing this one !!
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12-07-2013, 11:41 AM
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Please explain ....... looking forward to hearing this one !!
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Lone Wolf, have you spent much time out here, around these Elk? Please be honest. I have Sir and yes there are no high fences but to compare these animals to those in Northern Alberta or Saskatchewan that are not protected by a giant game preserve, well thats just silly. Then again I could be wrong, what would I know 
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12-07-2013, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by cacty
Lone Wolf, have you spent much time out here, around these Elk? Please be honest. I have Sir and yes there are no high fences but to compare these animals to those in Northern Alberta or Saskatchewan that are not protected by a giant game preserve, well thats just silly. Then again I could be wrong, what would I know |
Cacty, I don't think comparing animals from different parts of the province is really the point. The original question was would a bull harvested from the base qualify for b&c. I believe hunting with permission on the base it would be. Farmed animals are fed, watered, housed, high fenced etc. these elk are free to roam wherever they choose and have been wandering all over the se parts of AB.
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12-07-2013, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cacty
Lone Wolf, have you spent much time out here, around these Elk? Please be honest. I have Sir and yes there are no high fences but to compare these animals to those in Northern Alberta or Saskatchewan that are not protected by a giant game preserve, well thats just silly. Then again I could be wrong, what would I know |
So by your logic any animals taken leaving Banff or Jasper national parks you would consider to be not wild or not fair chase ??
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12-07-2013, 01:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cacty
Lone Wolf, have you spent much time out here, around these Elk? Please be honest. I have Sir and yes there are no high fences but to compare these animals to those in Northern Alberta or Saskatchewan that are not protected by a giant game preserve, well thats just silly. Then again I could be wrong, what would I know |
So the same could be said for animals taken from areas with very little draws available
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12-07-2013, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by cacty
A "farm" hunt might be a bit drastic but there is no question these animals are not truly wild. My opinion thats all, an informed one though.
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Could not disagree with you more, the only reason for the high success rate there is the shear volume of elk.
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12-07-2013, 11:13 AM
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Lot of Alberta fair chase hunts are "Farm" hunts. Just depends on the height of the fence. 
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12-23-2013, 07:29 PM
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I had the good fortune to draw the 3rd hunt for cow elk on the Suffield base. Calling this a hunt is a misnomer. This a herd cull and can best be discribed as an elk shoot. It is similar to a pheasant shoot in the United Kingdom. Is the hunt fair chase - I am of the opinion it is not. When the herd id found it is like a drive with shooters (I do not call them hunters picking them off the road when they get in range. The cull serves its purpose and if you are looking for elk meat this is better than buying it from an elk farm. I applied for this hunt for three reasons 1) I wanted to see what the terrain of the Block was like; 2) I wanted to see the big bulls: 3) I wanted to shoot a cow elk. I was sucessful in all three. Am I proud of myself shooting a cow elk under this situation - not really but the meat is good. Will I apply again - probably not.
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