Deer hunting method question - Alberta/Sask

[buckchaser]

It seems as though every time I watch Jim Shockey/Dean Partridge/Cody Robbins/etc hunting for whitetails they appear to be stand hunting over bait. It's often not clearly shown, but it appears the deer are coming in for alfalfa, etc.

Is baiting the predominate method in the big woods of northern Alberta/Saskatchewan?

No judgement on my part - just a curious Ontario hunter.

[saskwhitey]

Not allowed in alberta, very common in Sask.

[openfire]

yup what he said, Illegal to hunt over bait here…and poor sport.

[pseelk]

Originally Posted by openfire

yup what he said, Illegal to hunt over bait here…and poor sport.

No worse than hunting bear over bait,however is not legal here.

[The Flint&Fly Guy]

while it is illegal and looked down on to hunt over a bait in alberta. it is a fact that a large part of the hunting is done over a natural food source. or a farmers alfalfa hay field. its not bait hunting, just utilizing the whitetails natural need to feed!

[snowman160]

I do not believe hunting over bait for deer is poor sport..they target a mature animal..time can be taken to make an ethical shot..an most important that feed gets a lot of deer through the winter..I was skeptical until I read Garry Donald's article in his editors section for Big Buck Magaizine that changed my perspectives on it..most are just jelous I think.and if ya think big bucks just come running into bait sites,from what I've heard from friends an people that hunt regularly in sask over bait..that's is so not the case..

[reddeerhunter]

As stated.
People hunt over corn fields.
In the south my buddies have pivots. Holy cwd. But if Input a pail of molasses oats along red deer river it will be a tarnation.
Yikes. Different strokes.

[Ranch11]

The one thing that ticks me off about bait hunting is that, in most cases, once the season is done, the food source goes away. Not many outfitters, or baiters, continue to feed the deer. The deer are then forced to find a quick food source, after they've depended on it for a month or more. Now, I know some guys do, and Gary is one of the good guys. Kudos to the guys who do.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by openfire

yup what he said, Illegal to hunt over bait here…and poor sport.

Here we go again, running down legal hunting tactics for different provinces, when are we ever going to learn to be on the same side whether it is hunting or fishing as long as it is legal?
Sometimes we are our worse enemies which makes us easy targets for those who want to shut hunting/fishing down forever...wake up!

[expmler]

Originally Posted by buckchaser

It seems as though every time I watch Jim Shockey/Dean Partridge/Cody Robbins/etc hunting for whitetails they appear to be stand hunting over bait. It's often not clearly shown, but it appears the deer are coming in for alfalfa, etc.

Is baiting the predominate method in the big woods of northern Alberta/Saskatchewan?

No judgement on my part - just a curious Ontario hunter.

A lot easier to video a hunt over bait.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by buckchaser

It seems as though every time I watch Jim Shockey/Dean Partridge/Cody Robbins/etc hunting for whitetails they appear to be stand hunting over bait. It's often not clearly shown, but it appears the deer are coming in for alfalfa, etc.

Is baiting the predominate method in the big woods of northern Alberta/Saskatchewan?

No judgement on my part - just a curious Ontario hunter.

Buckchaser just google the hunting regs for each province. This will tell you what is allowed and not allowed, as indicated by other posts it will turn south quick, whatever you do just make sure it is legal and enjoy the great outdoors.

[catnthehat]

Waterhawk your post has NOTHING to do with you slamming people who bait in another province which is considered totally ethical there.

As far as shooting birds on the ground goes, no I don't do it, but that article fails too mention that in some places it is totally legal and acceptable and considered ethical to shoot upland game with a .22 or a pellet gun ON THE GROUND!!

Give it a rest, you slammed hunters who bait, called them lazy and you will not admit it.
The best thing to do when you find yourself in a hole is to quit digging!
And before you start slamming me for not being ethical, I've never hunted in Saskatchewan, never baited bears, and do not like to hunt out of tree stands.

However I have killed animals at distances some would consider unethical so if you want to run me down for that go ahead, have at 'er!
Cat

[Lefty-Canuck]

I have shot grouse on the ground with my bow and duck on the water with my bow....anyone who wants to place a label of unethical on me can pee up a rope, I got wet recovering the duck

LC

[fish_e_o]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

As far as shooting birds on the ground goes, no I don't do it, but that article fails too mention that in some places it is totally legal and acceptable and considered ethical to shoot upland game with a .22 or a pellet gun ON THE GROUND!!

i think it's ethical to shoot them with a 22 on the ground. actually i never once even considered that walking through the bush with a 22 looking for grouse was a bad practice. i always thought it was harder to get them with a 22 and recently i started flushing them and getting them with a 20 gauge. not because it was ethical, because it was easier to hit them in the air than to walk up slowly and hope they don't fly away.

as far as pheasants go i almost find it impossible to get them with a 22 on the ground rather than a shotgun.

i just don't understand...

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by fish_e_o

i think it's ethical to shoot them with a 22 on the ground. actually i never once even considered that walking through the bush with a 22 looking for grouse was a bad practice. i always thought it was harder to get them with a 22 and recently i started flushing them and getting them with a 20 gauge. not because it was ethical, because it was easier to hit them in the air than to walk up slowly and hope they don't fly away.

as far as pheasants go i almost find it impossible to get them with a 22 on the ground rather than a shotgun.

i just don't understand...

Yeah, that article reads like something out of Chuck Hawkes !
I actually know very few hunters up here that target
Partridge with a shotgun as compared to .22's

Try to tell an East Coaster he shouldn't shoot sea birds from z motor bust and see what kind of response you get , let alone telling s stubble jumper hd choked bait deer!!
Cat

[fish_e_o]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

Yeah, that article reads like something out of Chuck Hawkes !
I actually know very few hunters up here that target
Partridge with a shotgun as compared to .22's

Try to tell an East Coaster he shouldn't shoot sea birds from z motor bust and see what kind of response you get , let alone telling s stubble jumper hd choked bait deer!!
Cat

i agree whoever wrote that is narrow minded.


and gilly in some places pushing bush is illegal! when i found that out i laughed so hard. that's the style of hunting i look forward to the most, i love walking through the bush trying to herd and listen for deer. i feel sorry for people who don't get to do that.

[Gilly]

hahh the old bait vs no bait argument again. Pointing fingers at people that are hunting legally always makes sense being a sask resident and having hunted over bait I can tell u this. If u think we r lazy that's fine. Do I have a wall full of booners from hunting over bait? Absolutely not. Hell I have hunted deer by pushing, spot and stalk, and still hunting. And all my better deer where done spot and stalk. Fact of the matter is it's completely legal. So why slam it? And anyone who thinks it's not happening in Alberta is either nieve or blind. Correct me if I'm wrong but u can legally use salt and mineral blocks in Alberta for photography purposes. I bet dollars to donuts them blocks ain't hauled out before the season opener. Anytime a thread like this comes up where someone has to belittle the hunting style or ethics of another group the mods should shut her down. Well that reminds me I better go check my baits and check cameras.

Gilly

[xterratitan]

Perhaps its best to just leave it alone.

[norwestalta]

I really don't know why there is any question of ethics when one hunts/fishes legally. There is many different methods as there is many different reasons and why should I or anyone else on here judge one another. Seems like a bunch of whiny sucky boys that squat to pee.

[purgatory.sv]

Originally Posted by waterhawk

Battle Rat: I agree it is probably best we never meet. I expect we would quarrel. You appear to have no ethical compass other than whether the thing is legal or not. Perhaps that is best for you because it is strait forward and requires little thought.

Originally Posted by purgatory.sv

The ethical answer is what you want and your satisfaction.

I do troll.

Are you?

I wish to apologise.

Ethics is a personal decision.

If you compile with the perceived guide you are good.

If you question what you perceive ask.

[waterhawk]

I am off today for a three day fishing trip. I thought I would get a last post in before I go. It seems that almost everyone that has been posting takes the position that each individual hunter has to decide what he is prepared to do and not do and other hunters have no right to criticize his decision as long as what he is doing is legal. This is not my belief. I an now 62 years old and have hunted all my life. I was taught to hunt by my grandfather and father. They had a certain code by which they hunted by and had no problem speaking up when they saw something in the field that they thought wrong. My grandfather was with the Canadian army in France during WW I. He was at Vimy Ridge. He as a very stern man. He died in the early 70"s and I am still scared of him. When I was 13 I went with him on a mule deer hunt in the south Saskatchewan sand hills. Hunting was done by walking the hills. At one point we came on a guy that was taking pot shots at a big buck at a long distance. My grandfather in no uncertain terms pointed out that this was flat out wrong. It would have been interesting if it was one of you guys and the old man was told to shove it because the shots were legal.

I am out of this now. I want to apologize for my attempts at humor in my early posts. I did not realize how serious some members take this issue. In the future I will still post on ethical issues but I will be more respectful.

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by waterhawk

I am off today for a three day fishing trip. I thought I would get a last post in before I go. It seems that almost everyone that has been posting takes the position that each individual hunter has to decide what he is prepared to do and not do and other hunters have no right to criticize his decision as long as what he is doing is legal. This is not my belief. I an now 62 years old and have hunted all my life. I was taught to hunt by my grandfather and father. They had a certain code by which they hunted by and had no problem speaking up when they saw something in the field that they thought wrong. My grandfather was with the Canadian army in France during WW I. He was at Vimy Ridge. He as a very stern man. He died in the early 70"s and I am still scared of him. When I was 13 I went with him on a mule deer hunt in the south Saskatchewan sand hills. Hunting was done by walking the hills. At one point we came on a guy that was taking pot shots at a big buck at a long distance. My grandfather in no uncertain terms pointed out that this was flat out wrong. It would have been interesting if it was one of you guys and the old man was told to shove it because the shots were legal.

I am out of this now. I want to apologize for my attempts at humor in my early posts. I did not realize how serious some members take this issue. In the future I will still post on ethical issues but I will be more respectful.

Long distance pot shots, although legal,can be perceived of poor ethics because the chance of wounding and maiming an animal sky rockets. But this thread is about baiting... Baiting cuts out some variables. (Knowing the exact distance being a big one.... Probably a close shot) and actually reduces the chance of poor shot placement. Long distance pot shots and baiting....apples to oranges.

[norwestalta]

Originally Posted by waterhawk

I am off today for a three day fishing trip. I thought I would get a last post in before I go. It seems that almost everyone that has been posting takes the position that each individual hunter has to decide what he is prepared to do and not do and other hunters have no right to criticize his decision as long as what he is doing is legal. This is not my belief. I an now 62 years old and have hunted all my life. I was taught to hunt by my grandfather and father. They had a certain code by which they hunted by and had no problem speaking up when they saw something in the field that they thought wrong. My grandfather was with the Canadian army in France during WW I. He was at Vimy Ridge. He as a very stern man. He died in the early 70"s and I am still scared of him. When I was 13 I went with him on a mule deer hunt in the south Saskatchewan sand hills. Hunting was done by walking the hills. At one point we came on a guy that was taking pot shots at a big buck at a long distance. My grandfather in no uncertain terms pointed out that this was flat out wrong. It would have been interesting if it was one of you guys and the old man was told to shove it because the shots were legal.

I am out of this now. I want to apologize for my attempts at humor in my early posts. I did not realize how serious some members take this issue. In the future I will still post on ethical issues but I will be more respectful.

Your grandfather is one to be proud of but should have no bearing on ethics. Or does it? I have prior military experience but that does not mean that my ethics are the same as yours.
The main goal of all of us here is to enjoy the hunt in our own way. Wether it's driving around all day in a truck or sitting on a food plot who cares. To each their own is my thoughts. My belief is take what you use and use what you take. Which I think many of us are of the same thought pattern no matter how it is done as long as it's within the regulations boundaries.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by buckchaser

It seems as though every time I watch Jim Shockey/Dean Partridge/Cody Robbins/etc hunting for whitetails they appear to be stand hunting over bait. It's often not clearly shown, but it appears the deer are coming in for alfalfa, etc.

Is baiting the predominate method in the big woods of northern Alberta/Saskatchewan?

No judgement on my part - just a curious Ontario hunter.

Buckchaser look what you did! This is all your fault! Shame, shame, shame

[waterhawk]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

Buckchaser look what you did! This is all your fault! Shame, shame, shame

58th. I know your post is in fun. But seriously I am happy when issues like this come up on the forum. I find it interesting to see what guys think. Still packing up the truck. If any of you guys want to take a pot shot at me, please to it right away. I would hate to have you guys bad mouthing me and not being able to respond.

[norwestalta]

Originally Posted by waterhawk

58th. I know your post is in fun. But seriously I am happy when issues like this come up on the forum. I find it interesting to see what guys think. Still packing up the truck. If any of you guys want to take a pot shot at me, please to it right away. I would hate to have you guys bad mouthing me and not being able to respond.

Ok. You dirty dog where are you going fishing to?
How's that?

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by norwestalta

Ok. You dirty dog where are you going fishing to?
How's that?

A different forum is my guess....
I'm kidding water hawk. Good luck on the lake

[norwestalta]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

A different forum is my guess....
I'm kidding water hawk. Good luck on the lake

Yes have a good weekend.

[waterhawk]

Originally Posted by norwestalta

Ok. You dirty dog where are you going fishing to?
How's that?

We are doing a three day trip through the Meadow Lake Park. Peirce Lake today, Lac des Isles tomorrow and Waterhen on Saturday.

[norwestalta]

Originally Posted by waterhawk

We are doing a three day trip through the Meadow Lake Park. Peirce Lake today, Lac des Isles tomorrow and Waterhen on Saturday.

Nice enjoy yourself.