Lease land

[Supergrit]

If there is no specific access conditions or lease holder conditions( this is on I hunter app ) does that mean it is not needed to call lease holder to get permission. Other lease have conditions and restrictions with contact numbers makes it simple

[xtreme hunter10]

Originally Posted by Supergrit

If there is no specific access conditions or lease holder conditions( this is on I hunter app ) does that mean it is not needed to call lease holder to get permission. Other lease have conditions and restrictions with contact numbers makes it simple

You need to call for permission for all lease land. I, myself dont bother hunting lease lands.... its not worth it. Find some crown land or buck for wildlife land

[newguy]

Yes, there is a variety of conditions. Don't assume ihunter is correct. Use the ESRD website to find leased land. Pm me if you have any questions.

[ak-71]

Originally Posted by newguy

Yes, there is a variety of conditions. Don't assume ihunter is correct. Use the ESRD website to find leased land. Pm me if you have any questions.

And if ESRD website doesn't have contact numbers and says " No recreational management plan, restrictions, prohibitions or terms and conditions of use have been established by a Local Settlement Officer or Director." It also says provide information when requested.

Last year I have sent a request for a different lease, which had a contact information - reply was that I don't have to as long as I follow the rules listed.

[diamond k]

Originally Posted by xtreme hunter10

You need to call for permission for all lease land. I, myself dont bother hunting lease lands.... its not worth it. Find some crown land or buck for wildlife land

This is not correct

Check conditions

[therookie]

https://maps.srd.alberta.ca/RecAcces...ewer=RecAccess

use this website on a computer. will give you all the lease land in the province as well as all conditions required. some rec plans will say no management plan but will still include a phone number or email. always good to call anyways.

[xtreme hunter10]

Originally Posted by diamond k

This is not correct

Check conditions

Yes i am... lol. You always need permission. ALWAYS! but... im not going to tell you what to do... but... i will strongly suggest you call for permission. But... i wont tell you what to do

[Fwee6]

Originally Posted by xtreme hunter10

You need to call for permission for all lease land. I, myself dont bother hunting lease lands.... its not worth it. Find some crown land or buck for wildlife land

Sorry, you're incorrect in this.

Look at the ESRD website and/or iHunter app....read all the conditions. It's really simple. If no conditions exist/no management plan is in place, you are free to access the lease as you please.

[Jeffbridge]

Originally Posted by Fwee6

Sorry, you're incorrect in this.

Look at the ESRD website and/or iHunter app....read all the conditions. It's really simple. If no conditions exist/no management plan is in place, you are free to access the lease as you please.

Nope, you still need to get permission. Just because there's no conditions or management plan in place does NOT give you the right to access it without permission. Only the very few leases that are designated "no contact required" can be accessed without obtaining consent.


"Grazing Leases and Farm Development Leases are long-term tenures and require recreational users to contact the leaseholder prior to access"
Straight from the regs

~Jeff

[albertabighorn]

Originally Posted by Jeffbridge

Nope, you still need to get permission. Just because there's no conditions or management plan in place does NOT give you the right to access it without permission. Only the very few leases that are designated "no contact required" can be accessed without obtaining consent.


"Grazing Leases and Farm Development Leases are long-term tenures and require recreational users to contact the leaseholder prior to access"
Straight from the regs

~Jeff

This is correct and its scary if you think something different. No wonder there are so many stories of trespassing on here.

[Fwee6]

Originally Posted by albertabighorn

This is correct and its scary if you think something different. No wonder there are so many stories of trespassing on here.

Hypothetical....

1) ESRD shows no phone, email, Facebook, LinkdIn, etc etc etc to contact anyone to ask for permission.
2) iHunter (while a private app) also has no contact info of any kind for the lease holder. (side note: where do you think iHunter gets all their info and data from??)
3) In the "Conditions approved by the Minister" on the lease information form there is nothing.

Who are you supposed to contact about the lease?!

Maybe start here....
http://alberta.ca/premier/cabinet.cfm

[xtreme hunter10]

Originally Posted by Fwee6

Sorry, you're incorrect in this.

Look at the ESRD website and/or iHunter app....read all the conditions. It's really simple. If no conditions exist/no management plan is in place, you are free to access the lease as you please.

No... im not... but... you don't have to take my word for it. I won't tell you what to do.

[elkmakemecrazy]

Originally Posted by xtreme hunter10

Yes i am... lol. You always need permission. ALWAYS! but... im not going to tell you what to do... but... i will strongly suggest you call for permission. But... i wont tell you what to do

Originally Posted by xtreme hunter10

No... im not... but... you don't have to take my word for it. I won't tell you what to do.

I hate to break it to you but you are incorrect. For instance this lease requires no contact. This is just one example. There is lots of lease land that you do not need to call for permission.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by Fwee6

Sorry, you're incorrect in this.

Look at the ESRD website and/or iHunter app....read all the conditions. It's really simple. If no conditions exist/no management plan is in place, you are free to access the lease as you please.

This maybe true....but I know of an area people access that isnlandlocked by private land and they trespass on the private land to access the lease, without asking permission from the landowners whose properties they cross.

LC

[Fwee6]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

This maybe true....but I know of an area people access that isnlandlocked by private land and they trespass on the private land to access the lease, without asking permission from the landowners whose properties they cross.

LC

That's a completely different thing, of which I agree with you.

However, when in the conditions of a lease it states no contact is required to access a specific lease, then....... no contact is required to access the lease.

This whole lease thing is actually really simple. Read the conditions on ESRD/iHunter, follow directions. No wonder lease managers go bonkers this time of year...

[Lefty-Canuck]

IMHO, No conditions means no conditions....regardless use respect and don't treat it as a free for all.

LC

[Bowie]

Originally Posted by Fwee6

That's a completely different thing, of which I agree with you.



However, when in the conditions of a lease it states no contact is required to access a specific lease, then....... no contact is required to access the lease.



This whole lease thing is actually really simple. Read the conditions on ESRD/iHunter, follow directions. No wonder lease managers go bonkers this time of year...

Don't always go by what ihunter says. I had this experience this year. I found a lease with no contact required info and it turns out the guy wants to be notified. I'm sure he will be taking it up with esrd.
Thankfully he still allowed us to hunt. But under the lease holder in the app it says unknown. He wasn't impressed that the info was wrong.