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08-28-2011, 04:26 PM
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Leased or DU Land
So hopefully somone can clear this up for me, a while back me and a guy at work also a hunter were arguing about the trepass act, he was telling me that an individual caught trepassing can face up to a 5000 dollar fine.
I always thought it was 500 dollar fine myself and never really cared to know cause i always get permission but it stated right in the regs that recreational users who do not follow the rules can face up to $500 fines, then thats under the leased land review.
From the regs under the petty trespass act, it gives rules and regs but nothing stating penalties or fines could be, at least from what i see anyways.
Also if DU land is being leased for grazing or agraculture purposes should it not be up to the land owner to provide contact info in case somone wants to hunt that land, on a county map for Du land it dose not state the name or anything personal of the leaseholder, it just says its a DU quarter and that"s it.
And if they are in the right by not providing that infomation how dose one go about getting it, srd provides a site but some leaseholders are not listed.
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08-28-2011, 04:33 PM
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From my experience DU land is almost always posted "ducks unlimited - foot access only" . Personally, and this may be wrong, but
Id hike in and if i saw cattle id leave right away. Ive encountered a leaser once on DU land and they ran into me leaving as they were entering, we had a laugh and he thanked me
For respecting the fact he had cattle in the quarter.
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08-28-2011, 04:44 PM
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Call SRD it might be that the land is available for lease but not leased so no leaseholder is listed on the site.
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08-28-2011, 07:46 PM
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i'm under the impression that once the crops are cut the lease is over on a DU owned field, once it's down your good to go in without asking permission if crops are still there you need to ask farmer
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08-28-2011, 09:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jryley
From my experience DU land is almost always posted "ducks unlimited - foot access only" . Personally, and this may be wrong, but
Id hike in and if i saw cattle id leave right away. Ive encountered a leaser once on DU land and they ran into me leaving as they were entering, we had a laugh and he thanked me
For respecting the fact he had cattle in the quarter.
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yeah usually thats what i do too, never knew if there was a bull around or not this guy usually has them off by second or third week in september anyways.
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08-28-2011, 10:30 PM
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What about when DU has a dam on private land that they only have an easement on?
You better not be in my back yard without permission.
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08-29-2011, 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by hillbillyreefer
What about when DU has a dam on private land that they only have an easement on?
You better not be in my back yard without permission.
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Well then it might be a good idea for DU to blow up the dam and leave your land with a dry slough , and leave you in peace.
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08-29-2011, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimboy
Well then it might be a good idea for DU to blow up the dam and leave your land with a dry slough , and leave you in peace.
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I never said it was a problem, it was more a question. I will be more specific. The dam is on private deeded land, the shore is less than 100m from my step. There is no public access, even DU asks permission to enter on their yearly inspections.
I sometimes forget about the "entitled" guys on here who are allowed to go wherever they please, whenever they want.
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08-29-2011, 09:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jryley
From my experience DU land is almost always posted "ducks unlimited - foot access only" . Personally, and this may be wrong, but
Id hike in and if i saw cattle id leave right away. Ive encountered a leaser once on DU land and they ran into me leaving as they were entering, we had a laugh and he thanked me
For respecting the fact he had cattle in the quarter.
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Maybe it's just me, but it seems sort of pointless for Ducks Unlimited to obtain land, then lease it in such a manner that the leaseholder can stop hunting from taking place.
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08-29-2011, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Okotokian
Maybe it's just me, but it seems sort of pointless for Ducks Unlimited to obtain land, then lease it in such a manner that the leaseholder can stop hunting from taking place.
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I believe that DU's first priority is to preserve the habitat...wetlands.
Allowing farmers to utilize/rent the remaining lands for crop production is sound land stewardship and good economic sense. Crops are going to come off late this year so I can understand the later access.
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09-26-2011, 10:20 PM
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So you are allowed to hunt on DUC sloughs/land? Are DUC lands not purchased and owned by DUC?
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09-26-2011, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Almer Fudd
I believe that DU's first priority is to preserve the habitat...wetlands.
Allowing farmers to utilize/rent the remaining lands for crop production is sound land stewardship and good economic sense. Crops are going to come off late this year so I can understand the later access.
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That is DU CANADA's stance. They have branded themselves a "Conservation organization". They distance themselves from hunters. Look at DU Canada and DU USA and it is abundantly clear that hunters are the red headed stepchild of DU Canada.
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09-26-2011, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bearbuster
So you are allowed to hunt on DUC sloughs/land? Are DUC lands not purchased and owned by DUC?
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On DUC owned lands, foot access hunting is typically allowed, however, they do many projects on private land and then access obviously remains with the landowner. Just because it's a DUC project does not mean it's DUC owned. This should help http://www.ab-conservation.com/go/de...r-guide/guide/
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09-26-2011, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sheephunter
On DUC owned lands, foot access hunting is typically allowed, however, they do many projects on private land and then access obviously remains with the landowner. Just because it's a DUC project does not mean it's DUC owned. This should help http://www.ab-conservation.com/go/de...r-guide/guide/
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Thanks for posting that sheephunter. It answers my question from above. It seems that only DUC owned lands are listed on that site. I know of two other sites they built and monitor within a few miles of mine that are also not listed.
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