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Old 05-13-2024, 06:16 PM
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Didnt know Argo makes quads as well. Noticed you can get a 2up 570 for half the price of a Honda Rubicon.

Whats the skinny on these machines? Good? Trash? Good for hauling moose out of the bush or just for play
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Old 05-13-2024, 06:43 PM
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I will try to be nice.

The truth sometimes is not nice.

Deal with it.

Argo also had a line of Trikes with huge tires. You will be hard pressed to find one. But you will find Honda Big Reds still.

Argo is trying with the Centaur to compete with the Sherp. A Sherp is a Sherp.

So why don't you go with a name brand that is a good price like a Polaris. Not the best and not the most expensive, but a solid machine with lots of dealers.

I really do not understand why Argo keeps trying to enter sectors of the off road vehicle market after others have had success.

Perhaps they should get their 6 & 8 wheeled machines to have some refinement, space, steerability and durability.

This " me too" attitude has not been a formula for success so far. For the customers who are paying a big dollar for the Argo look alikes, maybe they will see the logic in going with the real deal.

This argument could be applied to Quads as well.

Now if you are just trying to get some eyeballs on Argo's website, you had me. But its like a bad dream that I hope I wake up from.

Argo burned bridges with me long ago. I will not go any further with explanations.

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Old 05-13-2024, 06:51 PM
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I was reading up on these the other day and see that they are the old arctic cat prowler. We had an arctic cat prowler 1000 xt for work and while it was peppy, I found it small (I am 6’2” /245 lbs). The Argo ones are about half the horsepower of the xt model. I was talking to an atco power guy who had a Honda 520 in the back of his truck box (it fits between the wheel wells) and with the roof, windshield and winch it was about 18k. The Argo one will be quite a bit cheaper (about 14k) in both price and quality. We also have a pioneer 700 and it and the Honda 520 are very similar. Myself, I would go with the Honda.
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Old 05-13-2024, 07:15 PM
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I will try to be nice.

The truth sometimes is not nice.

Deal with it.

Argo also had a line of Trikes with huge tires. You will be hard pressed to find one. But you will find Honda Big Reds still.

Argo is trying with the Centaur to compete with the Sherp. A Sherp is a Sherp.

So why don't you go with a name brand that is a good price like a Polaris. Not the best and not the most expensive, but a solid machine with lots of dealers.

I really do not understand why Argo keeps trying to enter sectors of the off road vehicle market after others have had success.

Perhaps they should get their 6 & 8 wheeled machines to have some refinement, space, steerability and durability.

This " me too" attitude has not been a formula for success so far. For the customers who are paying a big dollar for the Argo look alikes, maybe they will see the logic in going with the real deal.

This argument could be applied to Quads as well.

Now if you are just trying to get some eyeballs on Argo's website, you had me. But its like a bad dream that I hope I wake up from.

Argo burned bridges with me long ago. I will not go any further with explanations.

Drewski
Your comment brought back memories Drewski. Early 2000’s I had one of the old Argo Trikes. A Taurus. Thing was a beast, I did pack a moose out in two trips was the most impressive thing about it. ( Before anyone gets up in arms on the picture.. it was a staged pic with my son- not a trail ride)

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The new Argo quads are made in Taiwan 1/2 the price of a Honda means like other things in life , you get what you pay for. I think they have teamed up with Textron as well for some of their models. Textron owns Arctic Cat

I say all that to say this,I believe Argo is mostly buying from the cheapest source and rebadging.

You actually might save even more money by paying twice as much for the Honda and just riding it for 30 or 40 yrs
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Old 05-13-2024, 08:05 PM
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I am a die hard Yamaha guy, have had 2 quads a 450 Kodiak and a 700 EPS Grizzly, sold them both to my nephew who's boys have been riding the poop out of them, both are now up over 10,000 km with very little repairs, I have a 2014 700 Vicking S x S it has about 5,000 km on it and I have done nothing but change oil and regular maintenance.

Usually cheaper is just that cheaper, if you do need parts or service a name brand has dealers all over the place, IMHO

I did have a 6 wheel argo years ago, had it for about 10 years, it was a great machine as far as durability goes, but it was slow and rough, but would go almost anywhere
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I am not a quad expert by no means and probably do not take my through really tough terrain, but I've had an Agro Quad XRP570 for 4 years now and I have no complaints whatsoever.

Bought mine for Alberta Marine and they also have been great.

Again, I'm a prairie boy and use it in the coulee country to go places where vehicles are not practical.
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The new Argo quads are made in Taiwan 1/2 the price of a Honda means like other things in life , you get what you pay for. I think they have teamed up with Textron as well for some of their models. Textron owns Arctic Cat



You actually might save even more money by paying twice as much for the Honda and just riding it for 30 or 40 yrs
X2. My 2001 Honda Fourtrax 350 still runs like it did almost 24 years ago when I bought it.
I saw the dealership owner a couple of years ago and he smiled when he said "There was just one thing wrong with those machines. They never wore out". His perspective, obviously
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I will try to be nice.

The truth sometimes is not nice.

Deal with it.

Perhaps they should get their 6 & 8 wheeled machines to have some refinement, space, steerability and durability.

Argo burned bridges with me long ago. I will not go any further with explanations.

Drewski
I too gave up on Argo's. Mid 90's I had a mid '80's 8 wheel. I called it my one way argo. It would take me places and I could walk back.

Carried chain breaks, chain, links, sprockets, bearing axle etc. If it had it I could break it. Steering was useless once it got hot. I even had the gear selector break off inside the transmission. That was a 16 mile walk out in the middle of a rainy night.

The next weekend I rented a quad to pack in a new transmission I rode that quad in there in about 40 minutes. Changed the transmission drove out loaded up the Argo hauled it home sold it to my neighbour who was an Argo aficionado, had many in his backyard. Went and bought a quad.

Never had to walk out of the bush again, unless I wanted too.

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Old 05-15-2024, 01:44 PM
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Bigwoodsman,

I too had some lovely walks in the woods because of my "Satan's Little Helper".

One time the valve seat popped out of the cylinder head and had no compression because the valve got stuck open.

My baby brother and I pulled the cylinder head off, walked out, went to Whitecourt to find out no one had parts, called Edmonton to find out no one had parts, ended up pushing in the valve seat and then tapping around the aluminum head holding the steel valve seat with a punch to retain the seat, and walked back in and re assembled the engine and drove it out.

What doesn't kill you might make you stronger. But owning an Argo, it is all the walking you will do that will make you stronger.

That, or it will kill you and your bones will not be found until next spring, right beside your dead Argo.

Sure hope the Quad owners have better luck than I did.

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Bigwoodsman,

I too had some lovely walks in the woods because of my "Satan's Little Helper".

One time the valve seat popped out of the cylinder head and had no compression because the valve got stuck open.

My baby brother and I pulled the cylinder head off, walked out, went to Whitecourt to find out no one had parts, called Edmonton to find out no one had parts, ended up pushing in the valve seat and then tapping around the aluminum head holding the steel valve seat with a punch to retain the seat, and walked back in and re assembled the engine and drove it out.

What doesn't kill you might make you stronger. But owning an Argo, it is all the walking you will do that will make you stronger.

That, or it will kill you and your bones will not be found until next spring, right beside your dead Argo.

Sure hope the Quad owners have better luck than I did.

Drewski

Keep in mind, the Argo quads are not the same as the 6x6 and 8x8 Argos. The atvs are Argo in name only and that means they have the potential to be halfway reliable. Rebadged Arctic cats as far as I can tell.
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Who makes Argo ATVs

https://www.shanksargo.com/who-makes-argo-xplorer-atvs/


WHO MAKES ARGO XPLORER ATVS?
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It’s understandable if you’re skittish about buying an ATV from a smaller brand. With so many companies wanting to get into the market, the results can be mixed. Sometimes, what you get is just a rebadged model from a reputable company, while other times it’s a low quality model that depends on the brand name for sales. Instead of taking these routes, Argo went with the same strategy they use for their amphibious vehicles: partner with the best brands, and focus on designs that deliver what customers want.

Who Actually Makes Argo’s ATVs?

Unlike many brands, Argo wasn’t going to slap their name on an off-the-shelf design. However, it takes a lot of work to build an ATV from scratch. Their solution is a partnership with TGB. While they’re mostly unknown in North America, this company is a major player in ATV markets around the world.
This Taiwanese manufacturer opened their doors in the 1960s, producing licensed copies of Vespa scooters. From there, they grew to become a supplier for Vespa’s parent company, Piaggio. Like Argo’s parent company, ODG, TGB is a specialist in transmissions. Their CVTs are used in a wide range of scooters and ATVs from major brands, including Piaggio, Polaris, Rotax and SYM.
The company started building their own vehicles in 1987, constructing high quality scooters aimed at the European market. TGB introduced their first ATV, the Blade 550, in 2005. It was an immediate sales hit. In just a few years, TGB became a major player in the European market, with models regularly topping the sales charts in France, Germany and the Czech Republic. Their four wheelers are also popular in Australia, often working alongside Argo XTVs at sheep stations and farms.
While TGB stands out for introducing features like electric power steering and EFI ahead of competitors, their reputation is built on rock solid reliability.

Is an Xplorer Just a Blade?

No. While Xplorers share some components with TGB’s Blade ATVs, Argo has their hand in every part of their design. Their engineers go over every detail, from suspension travel to grab handle positions, to deliver the utility their buyers expect. They also build some of the parts in house, creating something that is unique and suited to the demands of their customers.
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Stay away from them or stay in shape and have a good pair of boots!

Unless you’re just farting around the acreage.


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I recently purchased a new quad. Was looking at the lower end models. I was almost positive I was going to get a Kodiak 450. But looking at the rancher, Kodiak and can am hd5 pro, I ended up with the can am. But got the hd7 pro. Way more whaf than the other two for similar dollars. Very impressed with it so far. The pro is designated as a factory work quad. It has front and rear bumpers, stiffer suspension, heavier duty tires, and is geared down. I got a last model year 7 for the price of a 5.
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"No. While Xplorers share some components with TGB’s Blade ATVs, Argo has their hand in every part of their design. Their engineers go over every detail, from suspension travel to grab handle positions, to deliver the utility their buyers expect."


That's exactly what I was afraid of...

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"No. While Xplorers share some components with TGB’s Blade ATVs, Argo has their hand in every part of their design. Their engineers go over every detail, from suspension travel to grab handle positions, to deliver the utility their buyers expect."


That's exactly what I was afraid of...

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I run a tracked 750 hdi argo for some of my muskeg inspection runs. I've put 2600 kms/500 hours on it so far and the only things that have been replaced are the hinges that connect the tracks to themselves. I use it twice a month, grease the bearings monthly and oil the chains every run. With the price of the new ones, a lot of the rental outfits are just replacing the engines, transmissions, chains and bearings. There are a few with more than 10k on them out there.
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