Purchase Wildlife Cert before applying for draws.

[gpgriz]

New this year, every individual must purchase of a Wildlife Certificate prior to applying for a Special Licence Draw. This includes all group members and priority only applications.

At first, this seemed like a ~$9,500,000 cash grab to me, and it is if the dollars are left in General Revenue.
I sure hope the dollars get earmarked for F&W related programs and funding.


https://www.albertarelm.com/licensing.page

[CNP]

There are at least couple or more threads in the "hunting" forum on this subject. It's not a cash grab. Money goes to general revenue. Personally I like it. I hunt every year whether I get drawn or not. Doesn't affect me at all and it might even reduce the number of draw applications......a positive

Not sure but I believe the idea of this came from hunters concerned that people were applying for draws and not going through with the draw purchase, once drawn. Concern was that people are doing this intentionally for the purpose of reducing the number of tags available for hunters. If you have to commit to purchasing a Wildlife Certificate before applying for a draw, this may be enough to prevent this practice

[Stinky Coyote]

Sounds totally reasonable to me, you could even add a draw certificate on top of it for 10 bucks to further keep the honest people honest.

[Bergerboy]

I think its a great idea. Too many people filling their family members tags illegally.

[Dick284]

Back before WIN cards you had to have your wildlife certificate number on your application, you also needed a certified cheque, or a money order in the envelope in case you got drawn.
Can’t see what all the hellabalou is all about?

[Greatwest]

Great idea. They should also automatically charge u for the licence if successfully drawn. Just my opinion though.

[Tronneroi]

I don't understand why some people are upset about this.

I've paid for one every year since I've been able to hunt.

Cripes, a tin a of chew costs more than a wildlife certificate!

[Grizzly Adams]

Originally Posted by Dick284

Back before WIN cards you had to have your wildlife certificate number on your application, you also needed a certified cheque, or a money order in the envelope in case you got drawn.
Can’t see what all the hellabalou is all about?

Discourages activists from just entering to tie up a tag as well.


Grizz

[LKILR]

Now if people want to abuse the system at least it cost them a little. Just imagine an anti hunter with a win card could have in the past applied for and got drawn for tags that they never intended on purchasing. Then times it by a thousand...... many missed opportunities for legit hunters.

[waldedw]

Originally Posted by Greatwest

Great idea. They should also automatically charge u for the licence if successfully drawn. Just my opinion though.

Yup they should, if your drawn your credit card gets billed for the license also, if you don't go hunting OH well you took a chance away from someone else.

[Who Da Fisherman]

What if you are just 999 for priority?
WDF

[LKILR]

Originally Posted by Who Da Fisherman

What if you are just 999 for priority?
WDF

You will need to purchase your wildlife certificate prior to the application. Simple. No getting around it. If you cannot afford the 30 bucks for your WC you likely can not afford to go hunting.

[kilgoretrout]

Originally Posted by Who Da Fisherman

What if you are just 999 for priority?
WDF

Come on man....... even if you 999 for one license you are going to go out for something else be it birds or a doe for meat .... if not considerate a donation to a good cause ......

[buckbrush]

I think this is a great idea. If people are hesitant to even buy the wildlife certificate, how serious are they about following through with the hunt?

When the Zama bison hunt was still a thing I knew two people who were drawn since they put in thinking it would be a cool hunt. Until they looked at a map or looked into the logistics of the hunt. Waste of a tag many guys would have loved to have.

That's not taking into account the people who put in for family members or the antis who are 'saving a life' for a few bucks

[TBark]

So what’s a Ca non res wildlife certificate cost now ?
I’ll have to break the news to my uncle and my eldest son, (out of prov)
Looks like no more 999 draw apps for them I guess.


TBark

[waldedw]

Originally Posted by TBark

So what’s a Ca non res wildlife certificate cost now ?
I’ll have to break the news to my uncle and my eldest son, (out of prov)
Looks like no more 999 draw apps for them I guess.


TBark

It costs the same as a resident wildlife certificate, $28 and change, but if you have to ask that question I assume that those out of province people have been applying for draws and have never purchased a wildlife certificate, hence the reason for this change.
By the way 999 draws were discontinued a couple years ago, it's a priority only draw now.

[35 whelen]

GREAT IDEA ,if you cant afford this ,stay home and buy some hamburger , you still need it to hunt anyway.

[Who Da Fisherman]

Originally Posted by kilgoretrout

Come on man....... even if you 999 for one license you are going to go out for something else be it birds or a doe for meat .... if not considerate a donation to a good cause ......

Just a question man! Yes I will be purchasing something later just wanted to know if I have to be out pocket the money now or later like it was.
WDF

[albertadave]

Originally Posted by Bergerboy

I think its a great idea. Too many people filling their family members tags illegally.

I think it's a good idea too, but how does requiring a person to purchase a wildlife certificate before entering the draws stop someone from illegally filling a family member's tag?

[icehunter]

Originally Posted by kilgoretrout

Come on man....... even if you 999 for one license you are going to go out for something else be it birds or a doe for meat .... if not considerate a donation to a good cause ......

A good cause being general revenue perhaps? But just think,say you want to go for trophy antelope. So the draw with cert costs --lets round it to $30.00. So with a 10 year wait, your antelope cost you $300.00 and you haven't even made it hunting yet.

[CNP]

Originally Posted by icehunter

A good cause being general revenue perhaps? But just think,say you want to go for trophy antelope. So the draw with cert costs --lets round it to $30.00. So with a 10 year wait, your antelope cost you $300.00 and you haven't even made it hunting yet.

You don't hunt anything else but trophy antelope. Hunting once every ten years? I don't get it.

[BuckCuller]

Originally Posted by icehunter

A good cause being general revenue perhaps? But just think,say you want to go for trophy antelope. So the draw with cert costs --lets round it to $30.00. So with a 10 year wait, your antelope cost you $300.00 and you haven't even made it hunting yet.

If you put in for more draws you can divide the wildlife certificate cost by how many draws you put in and save yourself some money.
I buy one every year anyway but I like to hunt for more than one species of critter.

[waldedw]

Well that's quit a scenario there icehunter, but if all you do is apply for 1 species for 10 years and not buy a wildlife certificate to hunt anything else in those 10 years then yes it would cost you about $300 but then that's your choice right.

IMHO if people do not want to buy a wildlife certificate then so be it don't enter the draws, it doesn't effect me one little bit as most years I spring bear hunt so I have my WC already.

The thing is people hate change and they will complain about anything and everything, especially this year, they got lots of time to sit and think of things to complain about.

[roper1]

Originally Posted by waldedw

Yup they should, if your drawn your credit card gets billed for the license also, if you don't go hunting OH well you took a chance away from someone else.

x2

[icehunter]

Originally Posted by CNP

You don't hunt anything else but trophy antelope. Hunting once every ten years? I don't get it.

Reread it..its a hypothetical situation. Try again..

[icehunter]

Originally Posted by waldedw

Well that's quit a scenario there icehunter, but if all you do is apply for 1 species for 10 years and not buy a wildlife certificate to hunt anything else in those 10 years then yes it would cost you about $300 but then that's your choice right.

IMHO if people do not want to buy a wildlife certificate then so be it don't enter the draws, it doesn't effect me one little bit as most years I spring bear hunt so I have my WC already.

The thing is people hate change and they will complain about anything and everything, especially this year, they got lots of time to sit and think of things to complain about.

Good thing me and all my friends are still working eh.

[colt45]

I bought my WC last year , even put in for a moose draw , but didn’t get drawn
Worked out for the better because I couldn’t go hunting at all after my back operation
Gonna put in for some draws this year , as at least I can walk around now , so baring some unseen problem, I will at the least be going deer hunting some time in the fall

[CNP]

Originally Posted by icehunter

Reread it..its a hypothetical situation. Try again..

I gathered it was hypothetical.....mainly because it wasn't believable. What was the point?

[icehunter]

I know guys that only put in for draws and have no interest in deer or bird hunting. The point is that its a cash grab and before you even go hunting you will spend cash on nothing. If anyone thinks this will stop a anti you are sadly mistaken. But yet some people will believe anything that is told to them because they are also told something that makes them happy or gives them a false hope.

Think about it. A person gets a draw and doesn't go hunting so that tag is gone. A person gets a cert and a draw and still doesn't go hunting,that tag is still gone. So how is it going to make any difference? They still have the draw and you don't.Does anyone magically think that just because they bought a cert that it will force them to hunt? The only people that win is the government because they now have more $$$ in the coffers to spend. Its like saying that you cant buy a vehicle unless you have a drivers license and registration on the vehicle. Of course to drive it you need to have both as well as insurance,but in the real world I can buy it and have it sit in my yard and never use it.

But then they say that it will improve your chances and all of a sudden everyone thinks that they will get a draw every couple years...suckers..

[58thecat]

It's all good...and everything went smooth when I applied on line 10 minutes all said and done now I wait.....