Fish Fertilizer

DarkAisling · #1 04-23-2010, 01:39 PM

Anyone tried to make their own fish fertilizer?

http://www.ehow.com/how_2325703_make...ertilizer.html

If I come back from Sundance with perch tomorrow, I'm not planning to eat them.

I've been lamenting the fact that I can't find fish fertilizer out here. We used to buy it back in BC all the time, and my mother had amazing gardens as a result of it. People look at me like I'm insane when I ask about it out here.

I've also heard that fish fertilizer can be good for grass. Can anyone comment?

huntsfurfish · #2 04-23-2010, 04:38 PM

"If I come back from Sundance with perch tomorrow, I'm not planning to eat them."

Why waste them? Eat em. Use the entrails etc. for the garden if you must.

Ive heard of people using suckers as well(because they are not a game fish), but why waste resources like that?

Sorry DarkAisling, but I dont agree with that kind of usage.

PS - yes I know its a private lake.

DarkAisling · #3 04-23-2010, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by huntsfurfish

Why waste them?

I don't feel that would be wasting them.

huntsfurfish · #4 04-23-2010, 04:41 PM

Actually I got that from your first post.

DarkAisling · #5 04-23-2010, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by huntsfurfish

Actually I got that from your first post.

You got what from my post: that I would waste them? I have no intention of wasting anything. I think that turning them into an organic chemical free fertilizer would be an excellent use for them, and 100% of the yield would be used.

In addition to that, I'll happily take the littlest ones home. That way others can have the larger ones to eat.

If Sun finds my intended use offensive I'll certainly respect his opinion, and if he asks me not to use them that way I won't. I expect he'd be interested to see how well the fertilizer turned out.

Cal · #6 04-23-2010, 05:40 PM

I'm with huntsfurfish on this one, I think the regs state that you cant waste the flesh of game fish. Wheather or not this would be wasting the eddible flesh is a pretty gray area. Last year I met a man who wanted to shoot a deer to feed his dogs, I'd put using fish for fertilizer in the same category. I understand that the conditions are a little different, this being a fish cull from a private lake but I would definatly not encorage other people to use the edible parts of a gamefish for fertilizer. If you realy want fish fertilizer suckers are plentifull and easy to catch.

hal53 · #7 04-23-2010, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cal

I'm with huntsfurfish on this one, I think the regs state that you cant waste the flesh of game fish. Wheather or not this would be wasting the eddible flesh is a pretty gray area. Last year I met a man who wanted to shoot a deer to feed his dogs, I'd put using fish for fertilizer in the same category. If you want fertilizer suckers are easy to catch.

these illegally introduced fish are from a private community into a trout pond, the OP has checked 3 ways from Sunday on the legalities of removing them with SRD, totally above board in all respects... what you do with them when you get home is your business..

Cal · #8 04-23-2010, 05:51 PM

Yeah sorry, I eddited that post as it did not properly convey my opinion.

DarkAisling · #9 04-23-2010, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cal

I'm with huntsfurfish on this one, I think the regs state that you cant waste the flesh of game fish. Wheather or not this would be wasting the eddible flesh is a pretty gray area. Last year I met a man who wanted to shoot a deer to feed his dogs, I'd put using fish for fertilizer in the same category. If you want fertilizer suckers are easy to catch.

I'm not about to go catching suckers. I think this is a perfectly appropriate solution for using fish that are too small to make any sort of decent meal. Who wants to cook up a bunch of keychain sized perch? It isn't like the little ones are thrown back when they're caught in the net. If I take the littlest ones for fertilizer, other people will get the bigger ones to eat. I fail to see how this isn't a win-win situation for everyone involved. It is a much better solution than throwing them out.

Like I said previously, if Sun has any concerns or reservations about my intended use I will heed them. It's his party.

WayneChristie · #10 04-23-2010, 06:02 PM

I bought my Alaskan Fish Fertilizer at Rona in the garden center, works like a charm. Hope you like all the neighborhood cats

DarkAisling · #11 04-23-2010, 06:05 PM

Cats aren't an issue. I have a dawg

Mice are an issue, however. They don't take my dawg seriously.

WayneChristie · #12 04-23-2010, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkAisling

Cats aren't an issue. I have a dawg

Mice are an issue, however. They don't take my dawg seriously.

it isnt much of a dog

huntsfurfish · #13 04-23-2010, 06:08 PM

Some people reading your post may not realize it is a private lake or that the perch may be only a couple inches long. When you post something involving a sport fish it would not hurt to include that info.

sardines are small and people eat em.

Catching fish(including suckers) for fertalizer may not be the best use for that resource.

JMHO

WayneChristie · #14 04-23-2010, 06:10 PM

Told yah

DarkAisling · #15 04-23-2010, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by WayneChristie

it isnt much of a dog

Beazer · #16 04-23-2010, 06:11 PM

Nothing wrong with it, but remember to take out the eyes and preserve them for future use!

WayneChristie · #17 04-23-2010, 06:14 PM

the mice think hes a 90 year old kung fu master and arent scared of it anymore

On the topic of the thread for a change, I do believe Sun had mentioned using the perch for fertilizer in earlier threads on the subject. Might be interesting for someone to do a search back and find the original thread

WayneChristie · #18 04-23-2010, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Beazer

Nothing wrong with it, but remember to take out the eyes and preserve them for future use!

wouldnt you rather get a transplant from another human?

DarkAisling · #19 04-23-2010, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by huntsfurfish

Some people reading your post may not realize it is a private lake or that the perch may be only a couple inches long. When you post something involving a sport fish it would not hurt to include that info.

That is a good point. I suppose I took it for granted that everyone on the board is well versed in the situation at Sundance Lake.

I would not consider turning fish of any worthy size into fertilizer . . . they'd get eaten. I wouldn't keep any small fish that I had caught to use as fertilizer either. Those would go back in the water.

hillbillyreefer · #20 04-23-2010, 06:28 PM

I think that recipe might be all kinds of Bad. It should work especially with all the vomit mixed in.

I'd like to know how to make it too, I buy it in 250 gal totes. I don't think delicate senses could handle that recipe. Let us know how it goes and maybe (big maybe) I'll give it a try.

If you do try it every cat for miles will be at your door, lol. Should keep the neighbours away though.

DarkAisling · #21 04-23-2010, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by WayneChristie

Might be interesting for someone to do a search back and find the original thread

He mentions it briefly here:

http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=34804

FishBrain · #22 04-23-2010, 06:56 PM

Thats what I did with the whack I got last year from the cull. I kept the edible sized ones, used the rest and the guts/heads to throw in the garden...will see how the veggies work out this year.
Be sure to cover them REAL WELL, flies and cats go nuts. It didnt help that the dog dug up a few

slingshotz · #23 04-23-2010, 11:48 PM

I buried tons of the little perch (some whole and some bones/guts) all over the garden and at my parent's garden last year. We dug up some of the earth at our place this year and it's beautiful looking. Buried them about 8-12 inches deep and had no issues with anything digging into the dirt to try and get them, and we have tons of mice and cats in our area.

You can get fish meal fertilizer at garden centres though but I like the concept of using the perch as you are doing both the lake and the garden a favour.

Geezle · #24 04-24-2010, 07:34 AM

Given the situation with the perch in Sundance I don't really see a problem with using some of the smallest perch that aren't worth eating for fertilizer. They may not be getting eaten, but they are still being used in an environmentally responsible manner, instead of possibly being wasted by somebody who doesn't want to mess with trying to get the tiny bit of meat off the little perch.

Reeves1 · #25 04-24-2010, 07:42 AM

Salmonella and botulism and more introduced into a garden ?

First thing I thought of when reading this topic....

deanmc · #26 04-24-2010, 07:56 AM

Here is an article with instructions. I think it is a great Idea.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...izer_turn.html

DarkAisling · #27 04-24-2010, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by deanmc

Here is an article with instructions. I think it is a great Idea.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...izer_turn.html

I think I'll use those instructions instead. They're easier

deanmc · #28 04-24-2010, 08:08 AM

I cant imagine it would be fun to put all those fish through your blender.

seahawkfisher · #29 04-24-2010, 08:59 AM

makes me think of the "super bass-o-matic 76"

might have to be pretty old to remember that Dan Aykroyd SNL jem
cheers

slingshotz · #30 04-24-2010, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Reeves

Salmonella and botulism and more introduced into a garden ?

First thing I thought of when reading this topic....

That's one of the reasons why I'm not a fan of the DIY liquid fertilizer applied on the surface near the plants where you can ingest it. I bury the fish whole to let the microorganisms in the dirt do all the work for me and take care of any nasties (I'm lazy!).