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Old 02-26-2016, 09:27 AM
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Pro-pipeline website targets Denis Coderre with Montreal billboard

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A website that supports the Energy East pipeline has a message for Montreal Mayor Denis Coderre.

“You won’t take oil from Alberta or Saskatchewan? Fine. Then, no more oil-related equalization payments for you.”

Those words in French, in addition to a large photo of Coderre, have been plastered on a billboard near city hall. The ad was paid for by TheRebel.media, a right-wing site launched by commentator Ezra Levant.

The billboard also includes the address for a website — RienDePlus.ca — which features an 11-minute video of Levant discussing Coderre’s opposition to the Energy East pipeline. The English version of the website is CutThemOff.ca.

In January, Coderre said the Montreal region is against the Energy East pipeline project because “it still represents a serious environmental threat, with too little economic benefits for the greater Montreal region.”

Energy East would bring western oil to an export terminal in New Brunswick. Oil would also be transported to Quebec’s two refineries — the Suncor refinery in Montreal East and the Valero refinery in Lévis near Quebec City.
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“You won’t take oil from Alberta or Saskatchewan? Fine. Then, no more oil-related equalization payments for you.”

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STUPID STUPID STUPID
There are lots of arguments one might make to help Quebecers become more sympathetic to our cause. This isn't one of them. This is only going to pizz them off. Might feel good to get this off your angry chest (not referring to you dmc), but whomever thought of this has no concept of how to get people on your side. This comes across a Alberta arrogance and is just going to get the Quebec middle finger.

If you tell your wife she should do something because you pay for her clothes, does that usually go over well?

And again dmc, I'm referring to the billboard, not your post.
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Old 02-26-2016, 09:42 AM
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STUPID STUPID STUPID
There are lots of arguments one might make to help Quebecers become more sympathetic to our cause. This isn't one of them. This is only going to pizz them off. Might feel good to get this off your angry chest (not referring to you dmc), but whomever thought of this has no concept of how to get people on your side. This comes across a Alberta arrogance and is just going to get the Quebec middle finger.

If you tell your wife she should do something because you pay for her clothes, does that usually go over well?

And again dmc, I'm referring to the billboard, not your post.
Hate to say it, but I agree. It's easy to lash out, some people really make you want to give them a good old bitch slap. Diplomacy all too often is looked at as a sign of weakness, but it takes so much more strength.
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Old 02-26-2016, 09:45 AM
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Ezra brings information to the table, unfortunately he gets it across in an idiotic and pathetic way most times.
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Old 02-26-2016, 09:51 AM
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I'm surprised that there's not photos and media attention posted on every huge oil tanker arriving on our east coast full of Saudi (and other) oil.

The danger every one of those tankers pose to our east coast waters, and the repressive governments they support should be standard news clips with every arrival on CBC .

If easterners got a sense of the volume of oil we import from those regimes, they might become more sympathetic to pipelines for Canadian oil. It would be more productive than Ezra's approach.
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STUPID STUPID STUPID
There are lots of arguments one might make to help Quebecers become more sympathetic to our cause. This isn't one of them. This is only going to pizz them off. Might feel good to get this off your angry chest (not referring to you dmc), but whomever thought of this has no concept of how to get people on your side. This comes across a Alberta arrogance and is just going to get the Quebec middle finger.

If you tell your wife she should do something because you pay for her clothes, does that usually go over well?

And again dmc, I'm referring to the billboard, not your post.
No worries Oki.

I dunno, maybe it is what is needed. Last poll I saw, majority of Quebec prefers pipelines.

http://www.torontosun.com/2016/02/15...oil-poll-shows
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Old 02-26-2016, 10:06 AM
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Denis Coderre. A mental giant.....................NOT
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STUPID STUPID STUPID
There are lots of arguments one might make to help Quebecers become more sympathetic to our cause. This isn't one of them. This is only going to pizz them off. Might feel good to get this off your angry chest (not referring to you dmc), but whomever thought of this has no concept of how to get people on your side. This comes across a Alberta arrogance and is just going to get the Quebec middle finger.
You do realize this billboard is for Westerners not Quebecers?

Pretty sure even Ezra doesn't think this billboard will get any sympathy out east, but it will sure make me laugh and send the Rebel $20 to keep doing awesome things.
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STUPID STUPID STUPID
There are lots of arguments one might make to help Quebecers become more sympathetic to our cause. This isn't one of them. This is only going to pizz them off. Might feel good to get this off your angry chest (not referring to you dmc), but whomever thought of this has no concept of how to get people on your side. This comes across a Alberta arrogance and is just going to get the Quebec middle finger.

If you tell your wife she should do something because you pay for her clothes, does that usually go over well?

And again dmc, I'm referring to the billboard, not your post.
Trudeau needs to get a pair of balls claim a state of economic emergency, say **** you Montreal and Quebec we are building this pipeline for the good of the country and be done with it.
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Old 02-26-2016, 10:48 AM
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You do realize this billboard is for Westerners not Quebecers?
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Actually what I realize is that it's for Ezra, not Westerners. Ezra isn't an Albertan. He's lived in Toronto for years. He isn't interested in promoting the Alberta energy industry. He's interested in promoting Ezra Levant. And the way he has learned that over the years is through flaming.
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Actually what I realize is that it's for Ezra, not Westerners. Ezra isn't an Albertan. He's lived in Toronto for years. He isn't interested in promoting the Alberta energy industry. He's interested in promoting Ezra Levant. And the way he has learned that over the years is through flaming.
Yup. Its a business. Do things that make me happy and I pay. Kind of like a prostitute.

The billboard is awesome. I see no positive except for the happy feeling I get thinking about eastern pinko's driving past it and getting upset. Is that worth buying another rebel t-shirt. I think so.
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Old 02-26-2016, 11:32 AM
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Maybe not so Politically correct...I love it, get me a shirt tooo..
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Old 02-26-2016, 11:35 AM
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STUPID STUPID STUPID
There are lots of arguments one might make to help Quebecers become more sympathetic to our cause. This isn't one of them. This is only going to pizz them off. Might feel good to get this off your angry chest (not referring to you dmc), but whomever thought of this has no concept of how to get people on your side. This comes across a Alberta arrogance and is just going to get the Quebec middle finger.

If you tell your wife she should do something because you pay for her clothes, does that usually go over well?

And again dmc, I'm referring to the billboard, not your post.
I read you think Quebec is similar to a nagging old harpy that thinks shes a trophy wife. I agree.
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Old 02-26-2016, 11:55 AM
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Actually what I realize is that it's for Ezra, not Westerners. Ezra isn't an Albertan. He's lived in Toronto for years. He isn't interested in promoting the Alberta energy industry. He's interested in promoting Ezra Levant. And the way he has learned that over the years is through flaming.
Hate to disagree, but looks like a western Canadian to me ...

"Born in Calgary, Levant holds a commerce degree from the University of Calgary and a law degree from the University of Alberta. His great-grandfather emigrated to Canada in 1903 from Russia to establish a homestead near Drumheller, Alberta.[2] Levant grew up in a suburb of Calgary. He attended a Jewish day school in his childhood before transferring to a public junior high school.

Levant campaigned for the Reform Party of Canada as a teenager and joined it as a university student.[2] From 1990 to 1993, while at the University of Calgary, his two-person team won the "best debating" category in the Inter-Collegiate Business Competition held at Queen's University. The first two of those years, his debate partner was future Calgary mayor Naheed Nenshi.[3][4] He has subsequently accused Nenshi, who is Ismaili, of "anti-Christian bigotry" as mayor.[5] In 1994, he was featured in a Globe and Mail article on young conservatives after accusing the University of Alberta of racism for instituting an affirmative action program of hiring women and aboriginal professors. His actions outraged aboriginal law students, feminists, and a number of professors, and he was called to a meeting with the assistant dean who advised him of the university's non-academic code of conduct and defamation laws. As head of the university's speakers committee, Levant organized a debate between Doug Christie, a lawyer known for his advocacy in defence of Holocaust deniers and accused Nazi war criminals, and Thomas Kuttner, a Jewish lawyer from the New Brunswick Human Rights Commission.[2]

Levant was invited to write a guest column for the Edmonton Journal and interviewed on television.[6] He spent the summer of 1994 in Washington, D.C., in an internship arranged by the libertarian Koch Summer Fellow Program. He worked for the Fraser Institute in 1995, writing Youthquake, which argued for smaller government, including privatization of the Canada Pension Plan. Levant saw "youthquake", the term he used to describe what he identified as a conservative youth movement of the 1990s, as similar to the 1960s civil rights movement except that instead of being enslaved by racism, his generation was "enslaved by debt" and, in order to liberate itself, society needed to dismantle elements such as trade unions, the minimum wage, universal health care, subsidized tuition and public pension plans."
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Old 02-26-2016, 12:48 PM
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Trudeau needs to get a pair of balls claim a state of economic emergency, say **** you Montreal and Quebec we are building this pipeline for the good of the country and be done with it.
Good luck on that one Trudeau will never give up his man vigina
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Ezra brings information to the table, unfortunately he gets it across in an idiotic and pathetic way most times.
Bingo. And I agree with Oko on it, what a stupid move. Ezra just spoke for all Albertans as far as Quebec is concerned, but as far as I'm concerned he should have kept his beak shut.
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As you know all too well,
Quebec has been a taker for many decades? Now they oppose the mechanism that would ensure they keep getting paid.
When has diplomacy ever worked with Quebec? Never! A tough line needs to be taken with them but the more time passes the more arrogant and entitled they become. They need a reality check. Unfortunately, it's doubtful we'll ever see that in our lifetime.
Maybe we all need to convert to Islam and get an Ayatollah in charge, he'd treat us fairer than the JT liberals.
IMO Enza speaks more truth than anyone in the media and although his plight probably won't change squat either way for us, I'll be sending a donation his way.

How would you suggest we get sympathy from the east?

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Gevarm Guy . . . . . I'll take a shirt too, and another Gevarm if you can round one up. Ezra is a breath of fresh air and I applaud all he is doing to represent viewpoints that aren't so widely shared in the main stream media. . . the Media party. It's the Ezra types who will come out when Trudeau Jr. decides that responsible firearms owners don't need firearms anymore in Canada. He'll be getting a donation too.
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Hate to disagree, but looks like a western Canadian to me ...

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Old bio. In offering to resign from the Alberta Bar Association recently he said that he no longer practices law and has been a resident of Toronto for years. He flew the coop.
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The several I work with who are from Quebec all say its about time that someone did this. They are from different parts of Quebec and say that until they got out and came to Alberta they had no idea how things really are. They were always told that Quebec gives more to Canada than they recieve.
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Trudeau needs to get a pair of balls claim a state of economic emergency, say **** you Montreal and Quebec we are building this pipeline for the good of the country and be done with it.
Kind of like the NEP? We don't like getting things pushed done our throat, our stubborn French cousins don't either. We need them to on board, not dig their heels in.
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How would you suggest we get sympathy from the east?
I don't think you can. I find it disheartening to read the reader commentaries on any CBC story about the plight of Albertans (which in fairness they have been pretty good about). The pure Hate On for Alberta from so many from Eastern provinces is brutal, and as far as I can see is deeply rooted in jealousy for the prosperity we have had. They seem to forget that prosperity didn't fall from heaven, people worked damn hard and long hours here (more work hours per week in Alberta per capita than any other province). They don't seem to fathom the benefit to the rest of the country from the booming economy here, in the form of huge taxes sent to Ottawa and then distributed in huge buckets to Quebec.
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As you know all too well,
Quebec has been a taker for many decades? Now they oppose the mechanism that would ensure they keep getting paid.
When has diplomacy ever worked with Quebec? Never! A tough line needs to be taken with them but the more time passes the more arrogant and entitled they become. They need a reality check. Unfortunately, it's doubtful we'll ever see that in our lifetime.
Maybe we all need to convert to Islam and get an Ayatollah in charge, he'd treat us fairer than the JT liberals.
IMO Enza speaks more truth than anyone in the media and although his plight probably won't change squat either way for us, I'll be sending a donation his way.

How would you suggest we get sympathy from the east?
Hey. I hear you. My point is that saying those sort of things to them is not going to get willing cooperation. All people are proud, and when you try to paint them as leeches it's only going to get their back up. A better approach would be to talk about how a pipeline through their province will create jobs, and get rid of the need for much more dangerous tankers coming up the St. Lawrence bringing oil from dictators and despots. I don't think Quebecers have anything against helping out if they think it can be done in relative safety.
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Most Quebecois have no idea that their province relies on equalization payments or that per capita Western Canada has paid as much as it has.
As a result I am sure that many will get their backs up over this, of course some might just do some research too.
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Old bio. In offering to resign from the Alberta Bar Association recently he said that he no longer practices law and has been a resident of Toronto for years. He flew the coop.
In applying to resign as a non-practicing member of the Law Society of Alberta (no such thing as the Alberta Bar Association) Ezra expressly says that since he has no intention of returning to the practice of law, and his status as a member has just become a convenient way for various opponents to harass him with frivolous complaints to the LS (all of which have been or will be dismissed) at great cost in time and $ to both him and the LS, the best thing to do is just cease to be a member. Typically of some of our leftard (and too lazy to first get or research the actual facts) media, they jumped on this and reported it as equivalent to "disbarment", which of course is utter nonsense. The LS itself, in a rare and public move, today published the correct version of the situation and forced said ignorant misreports to be retracted. Unlike his oversensitive opponents, Ezra will not bother to sue them for defamation.

Ezra's record of representing Alberta interests, on many fronts, historically and current, is far, far more impressive than most current Alberta politicians, let alone lowly journalists. You may not agree with his methods or approach, but anyone with a brain can see where he is from and where his heart is.
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I don't see a problem with the billboard. The message needs to be said.
I agree! Quebec has sucked the life out of Canada for many years and now they want to suck every drop from the west. I was all in when they wanted to separate from Canada.
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Kind of like the NEP? We don't like getting things pushed done our throat, our stubborn French cousins don't either. We need them to on board, not dig their heels in.
If they want their transfer payments let us build the pipe line if not they can freeze in the dark already.

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In applying to resign as a non-practicing member of the Law Society of Alberta (no such thing as the Alberta Bar Association) Ezra expressly says that since he has no intention of returning to the practice of law, and his status as a member has just become a convenient way for various opponents to harass him with frivolous complaints to the LS (all of which have been or will be dismissed) at great cost in time and $ to both him and the LS, the best thing to do is just cease to be a member. Typically of some of our leftard (and too lazy to first get or research the actual facts) media, they jumped on this and reported it as equivalent to "disbarment", which of course is utter nonsense. The LS itself, in a rare and public move, today published the correct version of the situation and forced said ignorant misreports to be retracted. Unlike his oversensitive opponents, Ezra will not bother to sue them for defamation.

Ezra's record of representing Alberta interests, on many fronts, historically and current, is far, far more impressive than most current Alberta politicians, let alone lowly journalists. You may not agree with his methods or approach, but anyone with a brain can see where he is from and where his heart is.
He was allowed to quit without having any "blemishes" on his record.

A diplomatic way for the Law Society to say "Just go away and don't annoy us anymore".

Sue the LS for defamation - you can't be serious.

He doesn't have the money and they don't want to have any part in another one of his "flag waving" events.

I'm sure he could find a "rightard" sponsor to fund him if he wanted to sue.

His heart is probably there, but his brain is now in Toronto.
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The billboard makes it sound as though we're threatening to cut them off.

Perhaps he should have worded it more to say that Quebec will reap what it sows. Block the oil and your funding will naturally dry up.

The way it's worded is sure to ruffle feathers, but what's done is done. We may as well laugh at their reaction now.
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