60% decline in wildlife populations since the 1970's wolrd wide:WWF

[avb3]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-en...-idUSKCN12R00F

Worldwide populations of mammals, birds, fish, amphibians and reptiles have plunged by almost 60 percent since 1970 as human activities overwhelm the environment, the WWF conservation group said on Thursday.

An index compiled with data from the Zoological Society of London (ZSL) to measure the abundance of biodiversity was down 58 percent from 1970 to 2012 and would fall 67 percent by 2020 on current trends, the WWF said in a report.

Many anglers and hunters take conservation seriously. How do we influence others to do the same? Many give lip service, but few actually attempt to impact wildlife positively.

Sad.

[Crankbait]

Originally Posted by avb3

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-en...-idUSKCN12R00F

Worldwide populations of mammals, birds, fish, amphibians and reptiles have plunged by almost 60 percent since 1970 as human activities overwhelm the environment, the WWF conservation group said on Thursday.

An index compiled with data from the Zoological Society of London (ZSL) to measure the abundance of biodiversity was down 58 percent from 1970 to 2012 and would fall 67 percent by 2020 on current trends, the WWF said in a report.

Many anglers and hunters take conservation seriously. How do we influence others to do the same? Many give lip service, but few actually attempt to impact wildlife positively.

Sad.

what type of antifoulant do you coat the bottom of your boat with?

[rugatika]

And? What do you propose we do about it?

How about we limit the number of homes people can own to one?

All environment destroyers that have more than one home step forward and admit your sin!

[ak-71]

Originally Posted by avb3

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-en...-idUSKCN12R00F

Worldwide populations of mammals, birds, fish, amphibians and reptiles have plunged by almost 60 percent since 1970 as human activities overwhelm the environment, the WWF conservation group said on Thursday.

An index compiled with data from the Zoological Society of London (ZSL) to measure the abundance of biodiversity was down 58 percent from 1970 to 2012 and would fall 67 percent by 2020 on current trends, the WWF said in a report.

Many anglers and hunters take conservation seriously. How do we influence others to do the same? Many give lip service, but few actually attempt to impact wildlife positively.

Sad.

Coincidentally human population just about doubled since 1970. So, promote contraception, doesn't work historically. Or promote developing countries in their development, like stop handicapping them with forcing inefficient energy sources on them, for example, it historically slows population grows.

[Eagle Trapper]

60%!! That's why I have trouble finding a deer and landing salmon.

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by avb3

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-en...-idUSKCN12R00F

Worldwide populations of mammals, birds, fish, amphibians and reptiles have plunged by almost 60 percent since 1970 as human activities overwhelm the environment, the WWF conservation group said on Thursday.

An index compiled with data from the Zoological Society of London (ZSL) to measure the abundance of biodiversity was down 58 percent from 1970 to 2012 and would fall 67 percent by 2020 on current trends, the WWF said in a report.

Many anglers and hunters take conservation seriously. How do we influence others to do the same? Many give lip service, but few actually attempt to impact wildlife positively.

Sad.

Do you use a marina or boat launch that has destroyed shoreline habitat? Do you discharge any effluent into the ocean on your trips? Do you kill fish on you trips?

[woodsman205]

Originally Posted by Eagle Trapper

60%!! That's why I have trouble finding a deer and landing salmon.

I caught 35 halibut and 28 salmon in one day this year on the Pacific. I am not concerned about the fishing, I am very concerned about the moose population in Alberta, in wilderness areas.

Now that is a conversation that's needs addressing!

[moose maniac]

Originally Posted by woodsman205

I caught 35 halibut and 28 salmon in one day this year on the Pacific. I am not concerned about the fishing, I am very concerned about the moose population in Alberta, in wilderness areas.

Now that is a conversation that's needs addressing!

And you would have killed the first bull moose you saw while hunting in 541

[Talking moose]

I blame emissions. I can now get on board with you and promote carbon taxing.

[avb3]

Originally Posted by Crankbait

what type of antifoulant do you coat the bottom of your boat with?

Only the best.

And in case you're wondering, no, it does not have tributyltin it, which is illegal for use except by armed forces.

Was that what you were wondering?

[Eagle Trapper]

Originally Posted by woodsman205

I caught 35 halibut and 28 salmon in one day this year on the Pacific. I am not concerned about the fishing

That info is worth a PM and a 60.

Sure seems like a critter decline here in central AB. Where did they go?

[avb3]

Originally Posted by rugatika

And? What do you propose we do about it?

How about we limit the number of homes people can own to one?

All environment destroyers that have more than one home step forward and admit your sin!

Guilty. Now, how many will sell their cabins or RV's? As you know, both of my places are smaller combined than the average Albertan home. Your point?

[woodsman205]

Originally Posted by moose maniac

And you would have killed the first bull moose you saw while hunting in 541

Did I ever say that? I was after 60" bulls. Knowing what I know now after Argo'ing through that area, I would not.

By the way while I was going through 541 in an Argo and sleeping in a wall tent what were you doing? I'll bet not much worth while, just saying.

[roger]

To many Peeples on the planet. Assisted suicide/ abortion, any many others options should be available for those who need it.

We don't inherit the land from our parents....we borrow it from our grandchildren.

[dmcbride]

So what's the percentage for Canada and what can we do about it?

[rugatika]

Originally Posted by avb3

Guilty. Now, how many will sell their cabins or RV's? As you know, both of my places are smaller combined than the average Albertan home. Your point?

When your resource consumption is lowered to a level that is in line with self-sustainability rather than using "slightly less than some other people" as a benchmark, then your righteous finger wagging may hold some water. Until then, you're just one of the people paying lip service to conservation and not really doing anything about it.

Just like so many others like Suzuki, DiCaprio et al. They think crowing about the environment absolves them of their sins of profligate consumption.

Multiple homes, flying all over the place, etc. Hardly the picture of conservation.

I wouldn't say anything but your finger wagging is a bit rich considering the consumptive lifestyle you lead.

[Newview01]

Were people expecting wildlife populations to rise in correlation with human populations? I am not surprised.

On an unrelated subject, we should shut down all immigrant intake, unless the immigrant has something that will better the lives of Canadians.

[avb3]

Originally Posted by rugatika

When your resource consumption is lowered to a level that is in line with self-sustainability rather than using "slightly less than some other people" as a benchmark, then your righteous finger wagging may hold some water. Until then, you're just one of the people paying lip service to conservation and not really doing anything about it.

Just like so many others like Suzuki, DiCaprio et al. They think crowing about the environment absolves them of their sins of profligate consumption.

Multiple homes, flying all over the place, etc. Hardly the picture of conservation.

I wouldn't say anything but your finger wagging is a bit rich considering the consumptive lifestyle you lead.

Don't fly, but take my fuel efficient vehicle which drives less than 20K a year. Besides, I've done a lot for conservation, which you are aware of.

[kmacisaac]

1970-2016, more people=more cars. More cars=more pollution. Carbon tax the hell out of everybody to the point where they are forced to stay home and watch the CBC.
This lefty government of ours has got this covered folks.

[BobbyDolan]

Maybe there are too many humans?

[moose maniac]

Originally Posted by woodsman205

Did I ever say that? I was after 60" bulls. Knowing what I know now after Argo'ing through that area, I would not.

By the way while I was going through 541 in an Argo and sleeping in a wall tent what were you doing? I'll bet not much worth while, just saying.

60" bulls??? Lmao ok pal, I have spent a lot more time in an argo in 541 than you ever will whats your point???

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by BobbyDolan

Maybe there are too many humans?

lol This has to be some sort of record, one post and out.

[Sundancefisher]

[COLOR="rgb(255, 0, 255)"]Stuart Pimm, professor of conservation ecology at Duke University in the United States, said that while wildlife was in decline, there were too many gaps in the data to boil population loss down to a single figure.
"There are some numbers [in the report] that are sensible, but there are some numbers that are very, very sketchy," he told BBC News.
"For example, if you look at where the data comes from, not surprisingly, it is massively skewed towards western Europe.
"When you go elsewhere, not only do the data become far fewer, but in practice they become much, much sketchier... there is almost nothing from South America, from tropical Africa, there is not much from the tropics, period. Any time you are trying to mix stuff like that, it is is very very hard to know what the numbers mean.
"They're trying to pull this stuff in a blender and spew out a single number.... It's flawed."[/COLOR]

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-37775622

ZSL is a pure conservation and zoo charity looking for donations. Take their report with a grain of salt. Add global warming hopefully gets them additional funding sources.

https://www.zsl.org/about-us

[woodsman205]

Originally Posted by moose maniac

60" bulls??? Lmao ok pal, I have spent a lot more time in an argo in 541 than you ever will whats your point???

Well I don't doubt that you have, I have only been there once and that was the trip I was just on a few weeks ago. I was only responding to your remark “And you would have killed the first bull moose you saw while hunting in 541”. You don’t know anything about me and to make a comment like that is one big assumption on your part pal.

My friend I was with has taken sever several 60" bulls and many 50+" bulls out of the exact came area that were in over the years, which is why I wanted to go, I was hoping to find a trophy bull.

When he first starting hunting there in the 70's he told me that on the lakes we were calling at, when he would call sometimes two or three bulls would we respond, we did not see a single moose on this trip. If you would like a more detailed account of our hunt please feel free to look at the Thread I started: WMU 541 For Moose.

The Title of this thread is 60% decline in wildlife populations since the 1970's wolrd wide:WWF. From what I saw first had, I would say that the moose population is in big trouble in 541 and has experienced a decline that is greater than 60% and that is a shame. That was my only point.

The only response I got from my calling was my echo!

[last minute]

I don't know I guess it's okay in my area the deer numbers are a little down but that's because of the wolf's I think .

[Bushrat]

Originally Posted by ak-71

Coincidentally human population just about doubled since 1970. So, promote contraception, doesn't work historically. Or promote developing countries in their development, like stop handicapping them with forcing inefficient energy sources on them, for example, it historically slows population grows.

Not only has the population doubled but our consumption has gone up exponentially. We have gone from the one home car, one tv, and larger and in some cases multiple homes, multiple cars, tv's, jet ski's, RV's, boats, quads, multiple jet or auto travel vacations and business trips, huge barbeques. Everyone has personal phones and we got our hands out wanting more of everything in our insatiable need to accumulate more and more stuff and do more and more stuff. The pile of disposable batteries we have used would probably fill the great lakes. We justify it by saying yah but it's energy efficient low emission rechargeable, blah blah. This be true but we seem to forget how much resources and habitat is destroyed to produce all the crap we gotta have. But I recycle blah blah.

Nobody wants to give up the option to buy, to have whatever they want no matter how useless or costly to our environment and habitat or to do absolutely whatever they want yet feel no guilt. We avoid any sort of restraint. Meanwhile we expect someone else to clean up the mess we cause and do something about it without affecting our right to carry on recklessly consuming anything and everything our whim desires while we self righteously point fingers at places like China and Korea who are producing all this crap for us at a price point we will accept. It's all being subsidized by the destruction of the environment.

Anyway I gotto go, pickin up a new energy efficient Samsung bigscreen for the bedroom.................

[CNP]

Hocus pocus....

Never liked the WWF:

The WWF has been opposed to the extraction of oil from the Canadian tar sands and has campaigned on this matter. Between 2008 and 2010 the WWF worked with The Co-operative Group, the UK's largest consumer co-operative to publish reports which concluded that: (1) exploiting the Canadian tar sands to their full potential would be sufficient to bring about what they described as 'runaway climate change;[24] (2) carbon capture and storage (CCS) technology cannot be used to reduce the release of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere to a level comparable to that of other methods of oil extraction;[25] (3) the $379 billion which is expected to be spent extracting oil from tar sands could be better spent on research and development in renewable energy technology;[26] and (4) the expansion of tar sands extraction poses a serious threat to the caribou in Alberta

Follow the money...

[Austin]

Betcha Leonardo does a movie about it nest year...

[purgatory.sv]

Originally Posted by avb3

Don't fly, but take my fuel efficient vehicle which drives less than 20K a year. Besides, I've done a lot for conservation, which you are aware of.

Excellent maintain the credit balance.

[Big Grey Wolf]

Although the topic is about all wildlife in many different countries through out the world, my thoughts are to many people equals to much loss of habitat and to much harvesting for food. Closer to home, I have hunted most river systems in Alberta over last 50+ years. Our moose population on crown land in Alberta is probably down a least 50% since the 60's.