Will Trudeau use same ploy as the French to stay in power?

[Darkoming]

So looking at what happened in France with 200 candidates dropping out of the race to put head to head voting. I really hope that Trudeau doesn't do the same with the NDP this next election. The conservatives in France were set to win by a landslide but lost due to the left coming to an agreement. This would be disastrous for Canada if the Liberals and NDP pull the same trick, but could defiantly see them doing this to try and stay in power to save democracy.

[trailraat]

Because we only have one round of elections, not a second round run-off like the French this is unlikely in Canada. Basically the Liberals and NDP would have to agree to split the ridings and only run one candidate from whichever party had the best chance of success. I don't think this scenario is that likely to occur here and it assumes that people would vote along those lines as opposed to taking their vote elsewhere. Even amongst Liberal voters there are still those that if given the limited choice would vote Conservative over NDP.

Poillievre needs to make sure he keeps the Conservative Party just right of Center and he should have no issue getting elected.

[FishOutOfWater]

Originally Posted by Darkoming

So looking at what happened in France with 200 candidates dropping out of the race to put head to head voting. I really hope that Trudeau doesn't do the same with the NDP this next election. The conservatives in France were set to win by a landslide but lost due to the left coming to an agreement. This would be disastrous for Canada if the Liberals and NDP pull the same trick, but could defiantly see them doing this to try and stay in power to save democracy.

In a roundabout way, didn't they already do that ? Colluding with each other to keep the Libtards in power...

[tirebob]

Originally Posted by FishOutOfWater

In a roundabout way, didn't they already do that ? Colluding with each other to keep the Libtards in power...

Exactly this... They can collude just as easily as they do right now.

[Grizzly Adams1]

That's what a proportional electoral system gets you, same system Trudeau was promising when he got elected. Every party gets a share of power based on their voting results and they argue over who gets what, end result usually being legislative gridlock. Even Israel is facing political instability, while fighting a war.
One could argue Trudeau has done that by his alliance with the NDP. France ? it's a **** show already and they've just put off the inevitable, it's going to create more extremism as people feel they are being ignored.

[Darkoming]

Originally Posted by tirebob

Exactly this... They can collude just as easily as they do right now.

I'm really hoping that both Jagmeets and Trudeau egos of being Prime Minister will keep them from colluding any further when it comes to election time. This by-election in St. Paul's must have put doubt in both their minds about the coming election. Looking at the numbers, if it would have been head to head in St Paul's. I think the outcome would have been different.

I do agree that France is in serious trouble after this last election. It will be rift for revolts and rioting even more than they already have.

[tirebob]

Originally Posted by Darkoming

I'm really hoping that both Jagmeets and Trudeau egos of being Prime Minister will keep them from colluding any further when it comes to election time. This by-election in St. Paul's must have put doubt in both their minds about the coming election. Looking at the numbers, if it would have been head to head in St Paul's. I think the outcome would have been different.

I do agree that France is in serious trouble after this last election. It will be rift for revolts and rioting even more than they already have.

Meh... That has been status quo for the French since time began. They have no issue protesting and rioting no matter the side.

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by FishOutOfWater

In a roundabout way, didn't they already do that ? Colluding with each other to keep the Libtards in power...

Same way the diptards in BC got into power

[Fradaburidi]

Originally Posted by MountainTi

Same way the diptards in BC got into power

NDP got into power in BC because people were rightly fed up with the arrogant best-before expired liberals.

[I’d rather be outdoors]

Short answer, no. Even in a coalition, pathetically, they wouldn’t have enough seats to form gov’t. They’re toast.

[BlackHeart]

This coming election, the NDP might end up the official opposition.

So unlikely they would be willing to bargain off potential seats and vote money for sharing power with the liberals. And if they did, and the liberals end up with a minority govt, there will be an even greater hatred towards Jagmeet / NDP than before. That could relegate their party to oblivion.

Not sure they want the stench of Trudeau staying in power completely painting them as professional sycophants.

[maudite]

Politicians doing the run around the system to win elections proves that they are only interested in power not the people.If the people decide that they don t want you and you circumvent the rules to stay in power then you will eventually spend a lot of your time putting down civil unrest and stripping people of their civil rights while the country slips into disarray.The current coalition government is a prime example of an unpopular government clinging to power.

[TimeOff]

Originally Posted by BlackHeart

This coming election, the NDP might end up the official opposition.

So unlikely they would be willing to bargain off potential seats and vote money for sharing power with the liberals. And if they did, and the liberals end up with a minority govt, there will be an even greater hatred towards Jagmeet / NDP than before. That could relegate their party to oblivion.

Not sure they want the stench of Trudeau staying in power completely painting them as professional sycophants.

I would like to think that the NDP's antics are plain to see for anybody who previously voted for them. Far more likely Conservative majority with Bloc as opposition. Trudeau Libs will be decimated just like the Ontario Cathleen Wyn Libs.

[I’d rather be outdoors]

Originally Posted by timeoff

i would like to think that the ndp's antics are plain to see for anybody who previously voted for them. Far more likely conservative majority with bloc as opposition. Trudeau libs will be decimated just like the ontario cathleen wyn libs.

100%

[3blade]

Originally Posted by TimeOff

I would like to think that the NDP's antics are plain to see for anybody who previously voted for them. Far more likely Conservative majority with Bloc as opposition. Trudeau Libs will be decimated just like the Ontario Cathleen Wyn Libs.

Ever met a dipper voter? They couldn’t see a barn wall from the inside

No, sadly it’ll be close. turd is throwing money around like a drunk monkey throwing shlit, and he’s spent a lot of time stocking swing ridings in onterrible with middle eastern immigrants who will vote liberal for life to stay on the taxpayer funded gravy train.

I predict some type of shenanigans, it won’t be the same as the French but there will be some kind of electoral manipulation. Liberals favorite saying is rules for thee but not for me

[densa44]

I think that the back room boys who run the party are looking for a new winner to put up against PP, and when and if they find him/her the plug will be pulled on JT.

[maudite]

I don t think the by pass action of the left going against what the people want will go over too nicely in France given their history.Just ask Louis and Marie Antoinette lol

[Armorman]

You're darn rights they'll try it here. Other than their names is there a difference between the Liberals and dippers?

[elkhunter11]

Actually, it's a good thing that the left vote is split between them , if they actually combined as one party, Canada would be even worse off, because we could never vote them out.

[trapperdodge]

Didn't the libranos not run a candidate against Liz May in one election to increase her chances of winning? It's already happened in Canada. She's been a liberal schill ever since

[Bushrat]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Actually, it's a good thing that the left vote is split between them , if they actually combined as one party, Canada would be even worse off, because we could never vote them out.

Either that or the people would have got sick of them sooner and they would already have got the boot. Nah... Canadians aren't that smart

[Cross Eyed Cowboy]

Originally Posted by FishOutOfWater

In a roundabout way, didn't they already do that ? Colluding with each other to keep the Libtards in power...

Not to mention that Poilievre and the Conservatives may have to do the same if they win with only a minority government, more than likely.

[barsik]

Originally Posted by Cross Eyed Cowboy

Not to mention that Poilievre and the Conservatives may have to do the same if they win with only a minority government, more than likely.

the conservatives don't have a dance partner for this to happen. the only other right wing party is the people's party of canada with maxime bernier and all he managed to accomplish was splitting the right wing vote on close ridings. he did more harm than good.

[gunluvr]

Originally Posted by barsik

the conservatives don't have a dance partner for this to happen. the only other right wing party is the people's party of canada with maxime bernier and all he managed to accomplish was splitting the right wing vote on close ridings. he did more harm than good.

With disregard to Bernier's mess this should show anyone who is actually watching that the conservatives are the only party that puts Canadian values and concerns over politics and personal gains. Everyone else would sell their souls for power. Some people will say they're just like the rest but they are the only party that's trying to win an election by doing what's right.

[Irina]

I think Canada is screwed. Pierre was on the wef forum, but his pic was removed, but Justin is still on there. They all play for the same team.

[Stinky Buffalo]

Originally Posted by gunluvr

With disregard to Bernier's mess this should show anyone who is actually watching that the conservatives are the only party that puts Canadian values and concerns over politics and personal gains. Everyone else would sell their souls for power. Some people will say they're just like the rest but they are the only party that's trying to win an election by doing what's right.

That's exactly it. They don't have the Globalist/Uniparty taint.

That's also where there will be conflict in the coming election, though. Those of us in the West can afford to vote PPC, because if they could win even one seat, it would be here. Our votes don't really affect the outcome at the federal level. Then the PPC would at least have a voice.

In the East, though, as much as many would love to vote PPC on principle, they can't afford to because it would be basically handing a vote to the Libs/NDP.

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Actually, it's a good thing that the left vote is split between them , if they actually combined as one party, Canada would be even worse off, because we could never vote them out.

Problem is the Liberals moved hard left to steal more harder leftist votes. They were centrists with conservatives on the right.

In turn leaders of the conservatives moved more left and most people voting conservatives are really voting centrist.

Pierre may be moving slightly more right.

[lmtada]

Originally Posted by Darkoming

So looking at what happened in France with 200 candidates dropping out of the race to put head to head voting. I really hope that Trudeau doesn't do the same with the NDP this next election. The conservatives in France were set to win by a landslide but lost due to the left coming to an agreement. This would be disastrous for Canada if the Liberals and NDP pull the same trick, but could defiantly see them doing this to try and stay in power to save democracy.

You Bet….
According to these two ex liberals (one was the federal liberal president), The wheels are set in motion.
https://youtu.be/dIlTjsTGORY?si=86YK8Ux6n-HFadSG

[Sooner]

Originally Posted by densa44

I think that the back room boys who run the party are looking for a new winner to put up against PP, and when and if they find him/her the plug will be pulled on JT.

What went down with Biden will be their playbook in a years time.