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Boat storage- need to find a way to move 12000 lbs sideways - not solved
I store my boat in my garage, and want to slide it straight sideways out of the way of the middle door. The boat on the trailer is 36' long, weighs about 12,000 lbs.
The shop is 40x50x12. I have to pull the hard top off the boat every fall to get the boat in the 10x10 door.
I am trying to figure out how to either make a set of dollies to put under the triple axle, or bolt on a set of axles under each side to move it about 12'.
I am also looking at possibly tearing up the roof, adding a dormer and a new 14' tall x 10' wide door where the man door is now. The roof will need to be shingled in the next year or 2 anyway, this may be the way I go if I can get engineered trusses made that will work.
Any ideas?
I'm not digging a moat, raising the garage, selling the boat or building another garage, taxes are far too high already.
I can't put up a pic, stupid photobucket.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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07-31-2017, 07:15 PM
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6 of these but with a higher weight rating ought to do it:
https://www.blackrocktools.com/samon...170801011333:s
Perhaps a supplier to the auto-body industry would have quality sets available?
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07-31-2017, 07:32 PM
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Would the bogies from UFA that are used for moving grain bins work? They are low and you can rent them.
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07-31-2017, 07:47 PM
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Do you have any use for an overhead crane in your shop? You could use it to move your boat and then have it available for other chores. It's not the cheapest option. But it might solve other issues as well
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07-31-2017, 07:50 PM
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Do you have any use for an overhead crane in your shop? You could use it to move your boat and then have it available for other chores. It's not the cheapest option. But it might solve other issues as well
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NO interest in that at all, plus it would cost $200g to install lol. My garage is for storing and working on my own vehicles and hobbies, it's not a commercial garage at all (anymore)
The break, mig, tig, plasma, stomp shear, pan break, forklift, welding/plasma cutting table, lathe are all going right away IF this guy comes through.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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07-31-2017, 08:28 PM
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I'm trying to think how speedos, cooking oil, and butter might help.
At the moment I got nothin'.
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07-31-2017, 08:41 PM
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Tough one? I do the same every winter.... of course my boat and trailer are around 2000lbs and have a wheel on the jack so a guy can just manouver it. Small tractor? If you have? 90 point turn?
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coffer dams, water and move where you want it.
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07-31-2017, 08:45 PM
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Tough one? I do the same every winter.... of course my boat and trailer are around 2000lbs and have a wheel on the jack so a guy can just manouver it. Small tractor? If you have? 90 point turn?
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I don't have enough room to swing that, thought of it already. It has to go straight sideways. I am waiting for the truss designer to send me some plans, if I can change the roofline and add a new door that would be awesome.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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07-31-2017, 09:09 PM
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I looked at those Gojacks too. Too light for the rear axle.
pretty close
Striper specs say 5150 dry
engine, leg 1200 lbs
then 600L of fuel 1000 lbs
then the trpl axletrailer 1500 lbs
hard top with radar 650 lbs
2 batteries 200 lbs
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40 gallon water tank 400 lbs (when full)
coolers, anchors, chain, spare tire, backup power, etc etc
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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07-31-2017, 09:10 PM
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07-31-2017, 09:12 PM
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NO interest in that at all, plus it would cost $200g to install lol. My garage is for storing and working on my own vehicles and hobbies, it's not a commercial garage at all (anymore)
The break, mig, tig, plasma, stomp shear, pan break, forklift, welding/plasma cutting table, lathe are all going right away IF this guy comes through.
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Can you use the forklift to shimmy the front then back along until its where it needs to be?
Hard to know without seeing a picture, but wheel dollies might be the cheapest way if you've got the ability to push something that heavy.
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07-31-2017, 09:14 PM
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I'll bet that wouldn't be too difficult to make. Lots of people make hovercrafts
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07-31-2017, 09:17 PM
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I'll bet that wouldn't be too difficult to make. Lots of people make hovercrafts
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I don't know if they sell anything Ken could make use of but I'm sure there are other companies that make equipment similar to these.
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07-31-2017, 09:17 PM
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Ice?
I think that's how the stones at Stonehenge were moved. Lots of other heavy stuff too.
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07-31-2017, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Kristopher10
Can you use the forklift to shimmy the front then back along until its where it needs to be?
Hard to know without seeing a picture, but wheel dollies might be the cheapest way if you've got the ability to push something that heavy.
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no, and I would be in a tough spot if it did work and I sold the forklift after I got it stuffed in there lol
Heavy duty dollys with big wheels are the ticket for sure
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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oooh....those are cool.....
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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07-31-2017, 09:30 PM
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Very little thought into this suggestion, but have move many 15-20k lbs air handlers this way, or sort of this way. . . Park the three axles on a heavy piece of steel plate, and jack said plate and place heavy steel pipping, 3/4 or 1" under, and use a turfer or come along to move sideways? Rough, but best I can do while boiling lobster. . .
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07-31-2017, 09:39 PM
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In all seriousness, I would look at a castor and dolly setup under each tire and your hitch base. Castorland here in Calgary has some serious stuff.
I like this roller kit
https://www.casterland.com/collectio...s/hlkrs-40-sld
Cheaper than a truss and OH door renovation.
I recently designed a prisoner docket in a courtroom on castors. Worked like a dream. It had some big time weight as all the glass is bullet resistant.
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07-31-2017, 09:44 PM
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himan rollers
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Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette
I store my boat in my garage, and want to slide it straight sideways out of the way of the middle door. The boat on the trailer is 36' long, weighs about 12,000 lbs.
The shop is 40x50x12. I have to pull the hard top off the boat every fall to get the boat in the 10x10 door.
I am trying to figure out how to either make a set of dollies to put under the triple axle, or bolt on a set of axles under each side to move it about 12'.
I am also looking at possibly tearing up the roof, adding a dormer and a new 14' tall x 10' wide door where the man door is now. The roof will need to be shingled in the next year or 2 anyway, this may be the way I go if I can get engineered trusses made that will work.
Any ideas?
I'm not digging a moat, raising the garage, selling the boat or building another garage, taxes are far too high already.
I can't put up a pic, stupid photobucket.
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Try hilman rollers, you can get any weight rating you need, several styles We can actually order them if you are interested. hilmanrollers.com
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Try hilman rollers, you can get any weight rating you need, several styles We can actually order them if you are interested. hilmanrollers.com
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07-31-2017, 10:05 PM
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Quote:
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I recently designed a prisoner docket in a courtroom on castors. Worked like a dream. It had some big time weight as all the glass is bullet resistant.
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Bullet resistant glass for the bad guys? That sounds contrary to prudent fiscal management! In all seriousness I hope you incorporated some other features in those prisoner dockets; kind of like this, but with better effectiveness/ reliability:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLaCqrisEac
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07-31-2017, 10:11 PM
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I have used them before, and they work great for equipment but there is no way to attach them to the wheels on the boat. Plus the axle is too high for blocking.
I will be using them for moving the 28,000lb break though very likely.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaberTosser
Bullet resistant glass for the bad guys? That sounds contrary to prudent fiscal management! In all seriousness I hope you incorporated some other features in those prisoner dockets; kind of like this, but with better effectiveness/ reliability:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLaCqrisEac
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I've seen first hand how many 'rights' accused folks have vs. Victims, but that's a huge threadjack......
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07-31-2017, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette
I have used them before, and they work great for equipment but there is no way to attach them to the wheels on the boat. Plus the axle is too high for blocking.
I will be using them for moving the 28,000lb break though very likely.
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Could you weld up a bracket that you could drive up onto? Something like this with the rollers at 90 degrees?
https://www.amazon.ca/Camco-Trailer-.../dp/B000I4JPZE
Then strap the tires to it and roll away.
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Why not leave the boat where it is and the roofline where it is and put another 10x10 or 9x7 door where the man door is and work around the boat in the winter?
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Modify an electric pallet jack with the correct capacity. Extend the forks. Pick up both sides and dolly the hitch with helpers. I assume your on concrete.
Never build a shed less than 16 ft high at the eaves. Should be easy.
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If you have a little bit of wiggle room, this might work,
https://www.trailervalet.com/
It is limited to 1,000 lb tongue weight, so your boat might be too heavy...
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Originally Posted by Au revoir, Gopher
If you have a little bit of wiggle room, this might work,
https://www.trailervalet.com/
It is limited to 1,000 lb tongue weight, so your boat might be too heavy...
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I looked at one of those in an auction sale I was at last week. I thought the same thing, but with the swimdeck and kicker sticking way out I don't think there is room to wiggle it in, even with a 900 turn park.
I am going to try the UHMW PE slides and see how they work with dishsoap. I have them already, nothing at all to lose.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck
I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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